Guild Wars 2

http://gw2.kongzhong.com/act/antiplug/index.html

For those who can’t read Chinese, what is basically on that page is a list of offenders that had been found and punished. 3000 accounts has already been taken care of in between May 2 to May 17, and seemed to be updating daily.

The list has included censored out account names, which servers they are on, character names, reasons for ban (including phishing, botting, pretending as developer, buying&selling gold, and stealing account), methods of punishment, and when it was done.

I believe this shows the transparency of how the illegal activities are treated, prevent players from involvements with shady services, and ultimately, that the devs do care about the game and the communities.

Any chance that we can get it as well?

No. I am not familiar with China’s legal system but I would guess that there the average person cannot sue for libel. In the USA alone, publishing a list like that would trigger a class-action lawsuit from hundreds of individuals claiming their accounts were stolen by hackers, banned for various reasons, then their online identities shamed in public through this list. Whether or not such a suit would be successful, it would cost Anet quite a bit of money in legal fees to fight it.

Not to mention the bad publicity – “Anet names and shames thousands of innocent victims of hacking.” There are cultural differences as well, and in the USA there is a presumption of innocence, so they would have to be absolutely sure the bans were legit before taking such an action. There are both legal and logical reasons why mods remove “name and shame” posts and why they are against the rules.

I very much doubt we will get anything like this.

On a different note, I’m not sure if it’s the way that Google translates it, but I found the “Feng Ting Type” heading to be extremely amusing.

Maplestory had name bans shown in world chat :p

In our Western culture we assume that human beings have legal rights. As the wikipedia states: “Classical Chinese [law] does not have a semantic equivalent to the concept of ‘rights’.” That led to judicial practices which we would classify as barbaric (though the actual situation in the Western countries was often not that much better). For example the accused person was deemed guilty until the opposite could be proven.

That may explain a bit why public announcements of wrongdoing is possible in China without (much) risk for the announcer while it would lead to massive backlash in the US (or other Western countries).

I like the idea, as long personal data are not shown, using just the account name doesn’t look so bad. But I can’t see any list right now, what happen?
Anet didn’t know about this and contacted them to remove it because if this post? xD

Nice

tolunart.2095:

No. I am not familiar with China’s legal system but I would guess that there the average person cannot sue for libel. In the USA alone, publishing a list like that would trigger a class-action lawsuit from hundreds of individuals claiming their accounts were stolen by hackers, banned for various reasons, then their online identities shamed in public through this list. Whether or not such a suit would be successful, it would cost Anet quite a bit of money in legal fees to fight it.

Not to mention the bad publicity – “Anet names and shames thousands of innocent victims of hacking.” There are cultural differences as well, and in the USA there is a presumption of innocence, so they would have to be absolutely sure the bans were legit before taking such an action. There are both legal and logical reasons why mods remove “name and shame” posts and why they are against the rules.

Victims of hacking accounts still have done X Y Z, thats all it says, its not libel to say this account did X. most likely i would assume they would remove such data once the person is cleared due to hacking.

Really its just a different style of doing the same thing. Na side prefers to be the unseen hand, China prefers to let people know they are being policed. There are advantages and disadvantages to both

Anet did this early on in GW2 also. They posted up a list of names and excuses people had written in for us to read. Most of it was pretty funny.

Shanaeri Rynale.6897:

Anet did this early on in GW2 also. They posted up a list of names and excuses people had written in for us to read. Most of it was pretty funny.

I remember that, anet posted some really offensive (yet hilarious) character names that people actually used like adolf critler and kittenmancer (ok it got censored so I will just post it in reverse: orgen) XD

Those players got banned obviously.

we had this long ago with tons of ppl banned. With Anet boasting about it in the earlier days. Remember the 30ppl militia of bearbow bots running around in queensdale. Killing moas and etc, before the anti farming system kicked in. Which kittened off a lot of people.

phys.7689:

Victims of hacking accounts still have done X Y Z, thats all it says, its not libel to say this account did X. most likely i would assume they would remove such data once the person is cleared due to hacking.

Really its just a different style of doing the same thing. Na side prefers to be the unseen hand, China prefers to let people know they are being policed. There are advantages and disadvantages to both

Ultimately there might not be any penalties to doing this, but that won’t stop someone from filing a lawsuit and it won’t stop years of legal tug-of-war over it. I imagine a company the size of NCSoft has a legal department, and I can’t see anyone in it saying “This is a great idea! Go ahead, nothing can possibly go wrong…”

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