Guild Wars 2

So when the blog was posted, people responded with, largely, elation. There was confusion about certain wording and such, but with the discussion, people figured it out, and an hour after the blogs were released, mostly everyone was excited, elated, and optimistic about the coming changes.

But 2 hours after the blog was posted, attitudes changed. Many people began pointing out “flaws” and complaints on the new system. People are decidedly less excited. Are they different people? Maybe, but not really. I’ve seen specific posters (no names) go from happiness to fear, out of speculation and paranoia and distrust of the game company that they obviously care about.

Why is this? Why does the community reaction appear to decline almost exponentially? I’m still elated, but I know many others are not. They’re angry. They were excited, but now, no longer.

Is it a mob mentality? Do members of the community see a negative reaction and follow suit quickly? I don’t know. I’m very very interested to get some answers though.

So here it is: if you were happy but now aren’t, what changed? Was it further speculation, introspection, knowledge, what? And if you were first unhappy, but are now happy, what changed?

Thanks for reading!

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

That’s fair, but it doesn’t really answer my question…. Could I get an answer from you about your fluctuation of reactions to the blog post? That’s what I’m really interested in.

But I’d also like to add that we have asked a million times to buy a skin once and not have to again, I think it is totally fair to have to buy charges for extra instances of the skin. Anet needs some money, and i think that this is a great trade off.

Here are the people who are kittened off by the change so far:
-dual legendary holders, + other expensive exotics
-people who like to mix-match town clothes
-people who bought multiple dyes
-people who absolutely hate anything involving the gem store

The first three I can get behind, the latter I have no sympathy for because they think GW2 should be a charity.

As with all changes, there will be people who will be negatively affected. And they are more than likely to be vocal about their displeasure.

Either way, these changes are for the good of the game – it’s players and creators.

Basically, Anet has put the consumer aka the player base in a very un comfortable position with this title.

A lot of things were promised and many of such promises never came to fruition.

Also, Many players are frustrated with the direction of this game for the past year.

Anet has basically made the player base paranoid and very reluctant to trust anything they do

In fairness I think they are finally starting to realize that changes are needed and required to keep this game a float. So we will see how this all pans out come the feature patch.

I am hopeful – but very skeptical.

Probably many people only saw “skin wardrobe”, felt happy. Then they thought about it some more, and realized that it’s basically a streamlining of the status quo, and felt betrayed because it wasn’t what they expected (an unlimited use wardrobe).

To me its a QoL change.

Its the same as it was before requiring a transmutation crystal to use a skin.
But now it is easier to preview these skins and apply them.
There is now also a use for the stack of transmutation shards(yellow ones) I had lying around.
You can apply the skin of a current item that might cost 20gc on multiple items for the cost of crystals that you might already have. (Eg, Lord T’s sword)

~ It is a QoL change with the advantage of gaining nice skins that are already on your current toons without having to buy a new item

I was happy before and am still happy.

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

It’s the difference between a cursory analysis and a thoughtful analysis. The instant positive reaction is due to the line of thought, “We wanted a wardrobe, they gave us a wardrobe, huzzah!” The later reactions are a result of examining and thinking about exactly what a “wardrobe” is and how it is used. Assumptions about what it would mean to have a “wardrobe” are being challenged and reevaluated, and that necessarily produces a wider range of reactions.

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

These are the steps:

1.) You have a helm already equipped the day you log in on April 15th
2.) You go to the character that you want the helm to be applied to
3.) You click around, find the helm and choose to apply it to the character
4.) In order to confirm the application, you will need at least 1 transmutation charge.

It is not unlimited. The restriction is the transmutation charge, which costs gold/gems. Or you can even spend 20 minutes exploring Rata Sum and getting 1 charge from that.

But if you had unlimited charges, then yes, it’s ‘unlimited.’

Shifu.4321:

Probably many people only saw “skin wardrobe”, felt happy. Then they thought about it some more, and realized that it’s basically a streamlining of the status quo, and felt betrayed because it wasn’t what they expected (an unlimited use wardrobe).

See, I see it as, I never have to buy 2 of the same dagger skins again. I don’t need to choose between the legendary utility on my elementalist versus the perfect skin for my Mesmer (bifrost). For expensive skins it will be worth the transmutation cost, IMO, and a welcome change.

So I can’t get out the elation phase.

I was pretty excited at first.

Then I re-read the blog post.
Then I read it a third time for clarification.

Then I read some posts that pointed out things I didn’t initially think of.

Then I spent some time thinking about how this change affects me and the people I play with.

I realized it changes nothing. The cost is still per use. Nothing changed except the user interface and some phrasing. People are going to use the same amount of ‘pay to make a change’ transmutation charges that they did for ‘pay to make a change’ transmutation crystals.

Pay per use is pay per use no matter the UI. This only really helps some people free up some bank space.

I believe I would feel differently if it were a pay to unlock and usage was free system.

The trend you describe seems to happen with all big updates. I suspect it’s because the first reactions are from the gut and sort of generally interested and excited. Then people start to really evaluate specific scenarios, so they have specific concerns. There’s usually no new information so quickly after the original release, and worried people feed each other’s paranoia that it’s somehow a worse case scenario.

And then of course it always takes a few hours for really hardcore trolls to see how they can stir things up.

I was really excited at first. Then after thinking about it, I realized that this new system doesn’t do anything to help leveling characters who are regularly upgrading their gear, and in fact it has tripled the cost of transmuting gear on any sub-80 character. So that has dimmed my enthusiasm a lot, because those are the ones who would most benefit from a different system (appearance slots, unlimited use skins, etc.)

My reaction hasn’t changed at all. I was super excited about the changes, but slightly disappointed there is no way to “save” a look, and I’m still super excited about the changes, but slightly disappointed there’s not way to “save” a look.

Pretty much my reaction to the trait revamp where I was super excited about the changes but disappointed there was no way to save a trait build.

They ALMOST checked off two of my top five wanted features, but fell JUST short of it.

It seems like we have a lot of exciting news but some points that need to be clarified. People have just had more time to think of questions that need that clarification. Hopefully ANet will clarify them quickly.

I am really excited about the update and can’t wait for it to happen. I am looking forward to be able to give the Light of Dwayna to some of my alts and to recover some older transmuted skins-

As for the dyes, it is geat! I have expensive rare dyes spread over my alts and now all of them can use them. And I do have 6 characters with Celestial dye and 3 with Abyss but I could care less that I won’t be needing them anymore.

For the people that are complaining that all the cheap dyes got expensive: if you really liked/needed/wanted those dyes, you would have gotten them already. Ask yourself if you are ever going to use them and then get a few hues that you like. The special set dyes still cost what they used to….

The only unhappiness I’ve seen since rising this morning has been about the idea of paying for transmutation charges. On that score, my take is that no one seems to mind ANet making money in the gem store, but for some this only lasts as long as any features they plan to use are free. In other words, for some people it’s OK for ANet to charge, as long as the charges are only for things they can do without.

Don’t get me wrong. I would have preferred to buy additional wardrobe slots rather than t. charges, but there is a lot of positive in the new feature that is getting overlooked because money…

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

Achievement skins do that! Why cant it be like that but the barrier of entry is a transmutation stone. Pay the charge get it forever! There are over 2000+ skins in the game is that not reasonable!?

well, it’s simple: as the hype settles down, you start to think about the details of the system, and that’s when concerns start appearing.

personally, the hype died down the moment i realized (about halfway through the blog) the system won’t give me any more freedom than we already have. all it’s doing is saving me some bank slots with all those one-time use skins i’ve hoarded from LS.

Previous system:

Acquire skin once to apply it once, collect skin again if you want to apply it again.

New System:

Acquire skin once, apply it as many times a you want.

Nothing else about the system changes, then again, I’ve the feeling that a lot of people who speculated that such a system change was going to happen partially just assumed the transmutation crystal thing and the costs would disappear or be greatly diminished..

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

Achievement skins do that! Why cant it be like that but the barrier of entry is a transmutation stone. Pay the charge get it forever! There are over 2000+ skins in the game is that not reasonable!?

Achievement skins are rewards for getting achievements. What you’re asking is why can’t this company produce content, make upgrades, and do it with less money than they’re making now?

Companies are in business to make money. In pay to play games, everyone is paying $15 a month to play the game. Even if they don’t play the game that much, they’re still paying $15 a month.

In a free to play game, more often than not, you’ve got pay to win options. Stuff you have to buy to compete.

In games like Guild Wars 2, cosmetic upgrades were always going to be in the gem shop and they were always going to be on the table. You’re telling a company that’s been providing pretty big updates pretty frequently to do it while reducing their income.

I’m not thinking it works that way.

I was personally hoping for some kind of “unlock, then use freely” system. The cost of the permanent unlock could even be many times the individual usage cost (10x? 20x?) and I would still be happy with it. Without that option, even at a very high price point, the “play around with different looks” fun that the wardrobe could have brought is largely lost for me.

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

Achievement skins do that! Why cant it be like that but the barrier of entry is a transmutation stone. Pay the charge get it forever! There are over 2000+ skins in the game is that not reasonable!?

Achievement skins are rewards for getting achievements. What you’re asking is why can’t this company produce content, make upgrades, and do it with less money than they’re making now?

Companies are in business to make money. In pay to play games, everyone is paying $15 a month to play the game. Even if they don’t play the game that much, they’re still paying $15 a month.

In a free to play game, more often than not, you’ve got pay to win options. Stuff you have to buy to compete.

In games like Guild Wars 2, cosmetic upgrades were always going to be in the gem shop and they were always going to be on the table. You’re telling a company that’s been providing pretty big updates pretty frequently to do it while reducing their income.

I’m not thinking it works that way.

Dude they would make more money from players like me if I knew that a charge unlocked the item to reskin unlimited. Basically if it doesn’t, I spend gems on other things. If they did it so they actually unlocked unlimited I would spend even more money. Either way they get my money.

I have over 1000+ hours in the game. I am not an angry forum poster just wishing it was more flexible. Just think of alts. If this system doesnt do unlimited my alts will never use this system. Why would i spend the gems to change their skins every 5-10 levels? Simple I wouldn’t. Only my level 80s will benefit from this new system.

It isn’t any worse than what we have just not much better (for alts). See where I am coming from?

I’m still happy about this change, and believe I will not change on that. The reason being is that they didn’t add cost (unless the unlimited achivement skins now cost to use) they just simplified and enhanced the old system. You still had to pay back then to transmute, you just didn’t get to keep the old skin like you now do.

Honestly the only thing that this game does wrong that makes me upset is the game balance. I really like the other aspects of this game, (sure the Living Story stinks, but at least they are trying and it doesn’t really affect me negatively) just wish the balance could work out better.

So in short I welcome the new wardrobe/dye changes!

For me, I would say I started out elated, but I am now cautiously optimistic.

I started reading through everything very quickly, as I was very excited to learn of the new things ANet is planning here. When seeing various questions come up later, it made me think, and go back to re-read everything. And then I started to put too much thought into everything, trying to read between the lines and understand what was actually meant in all the unclear areas. And as ANet needs time to comb through what we are saying, they haven’t clarified much yet.

I personally think the new wardrobe is a great change. I was already used to how transmutation works, the new way is basically the same. But now I am seeing people wonder if you would need to pay every time you use a dye, and then there’s the thought that I will not be able to use my favorite town clothes like I like, or be pigeonholed into using parts of town clothes that I do not like. And as it takes time for responses from ANet on these questions, I think people are getting themselves and each other worked up.

So basically my outlook right now is, we’re getting something that could be truly wonderful – but deep down I keep wondering if all this great new stuff is too good to be true?

Which is sad, really. I want so much to enjoy GW2, but I feel that this patch could fall short. This comes from the times in the past where I was told that I was going to get, and therefore anticipating something great, only to get something mediocre. I am really hoping that this time is different. I am paranoid and reluctant to trust what ANet says these days. But if everything works out, and I will not, in fact, have to pay to use dyes, or wear the silly Wintersday hat along with my Wintersday town clothes, I will more than happily eat those words.

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

Achievement skins do that! Why cant it be like that but the barrier of entry is a transmutation stone. Pay the charge get it forever! There are over 2000+ skins in the game is that not reasonable!?

Achievement skins are rewards for getting achievements. What you’re asking is why can’t this company produce content, make upgrades, and do it with less money than they’re making now?

Companies are in business to make money. In pay to play games, everyone is paying $15 a month to play the game. Even if they don’t play the game that much, they’re still paying $15 a month.

In a free to play game, more often than not, you’ve got pay to win options. Stuff you have to buy to compete.

In games like Guild Wars 2, cosmetic upgrades were always going to be in the gem shop and they were always going to be on the table. You’re telling a company that’s been providing pretty big updates pretty frequently to do it while reducing their income.

I’m not thinking it works that way.

Dude they would make more money from players like me if I knew that a charge unlocked the item to reskin unlimited. Basically if it doesn’t, I spend gems on other things. If they did it so they actually unlocked unlimited I would spend even more money. Either way they get my money.

I have over 1000+ hours in the game. I am not an angry forum poster just wishing it was more flexible. Just think of alts. If this system doesnt do unlimited my alts will never use this system. Why would i spend the gems to change their skins every 5-10 levels? Simple I wouldn’t. Only my level 80s will benefit from this new system.

It isn’t any worse than what we have just not much better (for alts). See where I am coming from?

They would make more money from players like you, and less money from players like me.

Anet probably has projections of what would be made either way. If they thought they could make more money doing it your way, wouldn’t they do it?

VincentDW.9376:

I was personally hoping for some kind of “unlock, then use freely” system. The cost of the permanent unlock could even be many times the individual usage cost (10x? 20x?) and I would still be happy with it. Without that option, even at a very high price point, the “play around with different looks” fun that the wardrobe could have brought is largely lost for me.

This would even work. Say you can spend 1 charge to change the skin but 5 charges to have it unlimited… Anything to help me skin my alts. Another alt unfriendly thing is the new system is 3 times more expensive because of the 3-1 stones to charges conversion.

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

That would be more than acceptable.

Even if you unlocked the skin after using charges for it 5-10 times it would be acceptable.

Even have to continuously pay for legendaries, as they are not meant to be around that much.

But if you have to pay every single time you want to apply every single skin, and if prestige and achievement, gemstore, AP and HoM skins are not free to apply (you already earned the right to continuously apply them for no extra charge), then the system will be bad, and everyone should feel bad.

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

Achievement skins do that! Why cant it be like that but the barrier of entry is a transmutation stone. Pay the charge get it forever! There are over 2000+ skins in the game is that not reasonable!?

Achievement skins are rewards for getting achievements. What you’re asking is why can’t this company produce content, make upgrades, and do it with less money than they’re making now?

Companies are in business to make money. In pay to play games, everyone is paying $15 a month to play the game. Even if they don’t play the game that much, they’re still paying $15 a month.

In a free to play game, more often than not, you’ve got pay to win options. Stuff you have to buy to compete.

In games like Guild Wars 2, cosmetic upgrades were always going to be in the gem shop and they were always going to be on the table. You’re telling a company that’s been providing pretty big updates pretty frequently to do it while reducing their income.

I’m not thinking it works that way.

Dude they would make more money from players like me if I knew that a charge unlocked the item to reskin unlimited. Basically if it doesn’kittens simple I spend gems on other things. If they did it so they actually unlocked unlimited I would spend even more money. Either way they get my money.

I have over 1000+ hours in the game. I am not an angry forum poster just wishing it was more flexible. Just think of alts. If this system doesnt do unlimited my alts will never use this system. Why would i spend the gems to change their skins every 5-10 levels? Simple I wouldn’t. Only my level 80s will benefit from this new system.

It isn’t any worse than what we have just not much better (for alts). See where I am coming from?

As a serious altoholic this is seriously an amazing change. My expensive skins on my main (100, 300, even 2000g skins) can be used on any of my 16 characters that can use the weapon. Also, my dungeon armors. I don’t have to buy more armor skins. Also, cultural armor. My 3 light armored Asura don’t need 120g armor. They just need a few transmutation charges (which will likely be available for mapping or you can just stock up now on stones).

I see zero downsides in my play style. Losing the 2 extra pyres I have does not seem to be a great loss, even. All of my characters have all options now. That’s absolutely amazing.

I think that it is because people are seriously messed up. I could be wrong however.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

Nage.1520:

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

It doesn’t work that way now, why would it work that way again?

Let’s say right now I want to make a dagger look like another dagger. I have to buy two daggers and use a transmutation crystal (at level 80). If I then want to make a second dagger, I need two MORE daggers.

With the new system, I don’t need to get the dagger skin again, so I’m still better off than I was before the patch. I’m only paying to put it on a completely different weapon.

So the system is better than the one we have now.

Achievement skins do that! Why cant it be like that but the barrier of entry is a transmutation stone. Pay the charge get it forever! There are over 2000+ skins in the game is that not reasonable!?

Achievement skins are rewards for getting achievements. What you’re asking is why can’t this company produce content, make upgrades, and do it with less money than they’re making now?

Companies are in business to make money. In pay to play games, everyone is paying $15 a month to play the game. Even if they don’t play the game that much, they’re still paying $15 a month.

In a free to play game, more often than not, you’ve got pay to win options. Stuff you have to buy to compete.

In games like Guild Wars 2, cosmetic upgrades were always going to be in the gem shop and they were always going to be on the table. You’re telling a company that’s been providing pretty big updates pretty frequently to do it while reducing their income.

I’m not thinking it works that way.

Dude they would make more money from players like me if I knew that a charge unlocked the item to reskin unlimited. Basically if it doesn’kittens simple I spend gems on other things. If they did it so they actually unlocked unlimited I would spend even more money. Either way they get my money.

I have over 1000+ hours in the game. I am not an angry forum poster just wishing it was more flexible. Just think of alts. If this system doesnt do unlimited my alts will never use this system. Why would i spend the gems to change their skins every 5-10 levels? Simple I wouldn’t. Only my level 80s will benefit from this new system.

It isn’t any worse than what we have just not much better (for alts). See where I am coming from?

As a serious altoholic this is seriously an amazing change. My expensive skins on my main (100, 300, even 2000g skins) can be used on any of my 16 characters that can use the weapon. Also, my dungeon armors. I don’t have to buy more armor skins. Also, cultural armor. My 3 light armored Asura don’t need 120g armor. They just need a few transmutation charges (which will likely be available for mapping or you can just stock up now on stones).

I see zero downsides in my play style. Losing the 2 extra pyres I have does not seem to be a great loss, even. All of my characters have all options now. That’s absolutely amazing.

Yep, I love the idea of using my legendary or some of my Living Story stuff (like Teq’s wings) on multiple characters.

What this does is two fold.

It will increase profit for Anet (not a bad thing).

It will give players the ability (cost allowing) to access more cosmetics.

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

Reasonable thinking people like you do not belong here. Please join us on reddit.

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

The evolution of NA society.

Where profit for a company becomes a bad thing.

Sighs…..

Lilith Ajit.6173:

So when the blog was posted, people responded with, largely, elation. There was confusion about certain wording and such, but with the discussion, people figured it out, and an hour after the blogs were released, mostly everyone was excited, elated, and optimistic about the coming changes.

But 2 hours after the blog was posted, attitudes changed. Many people began pointing out “flaws” and complaints on the new system. People are decidedly less excited. Are they different people? Maybe, but not really. I’ve seen specific posters (no names) go from happiness to fear, out of speculation and paranoia and distrust of the game company that they obviously care about.

Why is this? Why does the community reaction appear to decline almost exponentially? I’m still elated, but I know many others are not. They’re angry. They were excited, but now, no longer.

Is it a mob mentality? Do members of the community see a negative reaction and follow suit quickly? I don’t know. I’m very very interested to get some answers though.

So here it is: if you were happy but now aren’t, what changed? Was it further speculation, introspection, knowledge, what? And if you were first unhappy, but are now happy, what changed?

Thanks for reading!

Its because when the information was presented, it wasnt really clear some of the implications, people tend to fill in the blanks with what they think is going to happen. Then as people analyze and make clear to people exactly what is being offered, people start to realize exactly what they are getting. And its not as good as it seemed when they first saw the big flashy part
NEW WARDROBE

fine print is, each use of wardrobe will cost a variable amount of gold or a fixed amount of gems based on the demand at time of use of wardrobe. Certain restrictions may apply, Skins will offer free transmutation one time and one time only. insert legal speak and continue

point is, its not really a wardrobe its an unlockable rental shop. Bring us clothes and we ll store it for you and let you wear it for a fee.

Vol.7601:

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

Reasonable thinking people like you do not belong here. Please join us on reddit.

:( I dislike reddit. Maybe I’m not as reasonable as I thought!

Anyway, I enjoy supporting anet. I’d gladly pay for charges weekly, monthly, or whatever.

My sole issue at this point is we’re getting some very contradictory information about how this will work with town clothes. Yes, it’s a minor thing, but this is something that people spent money on, and there’s answers from Anet folks in at least two places that are totally different.

There is no one answer to how people react. People come at these things from different perspectives.

For me personally, the wardrobe changes were never something I wanted. As such, I’m worried my non-80 characters are going to be hurt by something I never wanted.

Azreell.1568:

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

The evolution of NA society.

Where profit for a company becomes a bad thing.

Sighs…..

Capitalist system says profit for a company should be obtained by offering you the best services at the cheapest prices. No consumer is supposed to celebrate the profit of a company unless they feel the company is offering them a satisfying deal. Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Vol.7601:

Here are the people who are kittened off by the change so far:
-dual legendary holders, + other expensive exotics
-people who like to mix-match town clothes
-people who bought multiple dyes
-people who absolutely hate anything involving the gem store

The first three I can get behind, the latter I have no sympathy for because they think GW2 should be a charity.

As with all changes, there will be people who will be negatively affected. And they are more than likely to be vocal about their displeasure.

Either way, these changes are for the good of the game – it’s players and creators.

I will miss the ability to mix and match new town clothes, but on the other hand it will save some bank space. As the current system is, I’ve been locked out from having been able to change my outfit. I have magitech armor, with ascended stats, if I wanted to wear a new outfit I have two choices, destroy the magitech armor and never have access to it again, or make an entire new set of ascended armor, and my magitech armor will take up more bank space.

I don’t mind having my legendary become accessible on all my accounts, it doesn’t change how difficult it was to obtain it, and now I have the option for being able to show it off on other characters.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Vol.7601:

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

Reasonable thinking people like you do not belong here. Please join us on reddit.

:( I dislike reddit. Maybe I’m not as reasonable as I thought!

Anyway, I enjoy supporting anet. I’d gladly pay for charges weekly, monthly, or whatever.

Same, I am so glad this is being put in. I have been very wary of buying the skins off the TP because I would have to buy them again if I wanted just the chest on another character. I do not mind at all paying for the transmutation cost of it.

Arisal.9740:

I just want to know one thing. Will a transmutation charge “unlock” the skin already in our locker for unlimited use.

That changes everything. If it does work that way OMG amazing. If not I see this as an unnecessary barrier for skins that should have UNLIMITED use. After all we payed the charge. Why make us pay again.

Watch the video again. Every single armor piece they click on to apply adds to a cost of reapplying. On the drop down menu, there is also no “unlocked skins” or anything like that. It’s not 100%, but to me it feels pretty obvious, 1 crystal per reskin regardless of whether you’ve used it 100 times reskinning before. If this is indeed the case, besides putting my Sunrise skin on warrior, this is pretty yawn.com in terms of changing skins. Sure I can do it for a very short time, but after that I’m exactly back to where I was.

Edit: To the people who have a lot of T3 sets and a bunch of very expensive weapons, I’m sure this update is more exciting. But I mostly play 2 characters that I’d like to mess with their armor looks a lot. So for me, it doesn’t do much. I understand the appeal for others though.

phys.7689:

Azreell.1568:

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

The evolution of NA society.

Where profit for a company becomes a bad thing.

Sighs…..

Capitalist system says profit for a company should be obtained by offering you the best services at the cheapest prices. No consumer is supposed to celebrate the profit of a company unless they feel the company is offering them a satisfying deal. Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Then free market kicks in and you have other options for value aka play another title.

The opinion is people want this for free – which is unrealistic but something that is continually hammered into people with all this liberal media.

Nothing is free.

GW2 requires a profit to stay running.

phys.7689:

Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Yes because many of those people are of the, “Make everything ever free for me forever or Anet is greedy,” mindset.

Azreell.1568:

phys.7689:

Azreell.1568:

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

The evolution of NA society.

Where profit for a company becomes a bad thing.

Sighs…..

Capitalist system says profit for a company should be obtained by offering you the best services at the cheapest prices. No consumer is supposed to celebrate the profit of a company unless they feel the company is offering them a satisfying deal. Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Then free market kicks in and you have other options for value aka play another title.

The opinion is people want this for free – which is unrealistic but something that is continually hammered into people with all this liberal media.

Nothing is free.

GW2 requires a profit to stay running.

unlock per transmutation stone isnt free. It actually probably would lead to an increase in transmutation stones spent, because like they said, 2000 armor pieces or something. When this change hits, im still going to be hoarding my transmutation stones, i will use some on transmuting legendary looks. If it was unlocks i would spend a lot or all of them and want more, i would also start hunting gears i may only use sometimes.

Unlock is a better system for a fashion system. It gives people reasons to buy lots and lots of clothes, instead of just one.

Its not about free, its about having a more logical and appealing system that reinforces in game goals, and playing the game more.

i believe they will make more money of an unlock system than a rental system, because i believe a rental system is not the way people prefer to deal with fashion.

phys.7689:

Azreell.1568:

phys.7689:

Azreell.1568:

Zypher.7609:

I really can’t believe all the people that want the wardrobe to be free. Really so you get the skin once and can use it when ever you want free of charge? How do you think this game is paid for? You do not pay monthly, you do not have to pay for the April 15th patch. Really I think you just want a game you log into, gets updated when ever you want but then you also get every single thing in the game. Just for the heads up the people that do the updating would like to get paid for the work they do.

Just do some thinking before screaming greedy company.

The evolution of NA society.

Where profit for a company becomes a bad thing.

Sighs…..

Capitalist system says profit for a company should be obtained by offering you the best services at the cheapest prices. No consumer is supposed to celebrate the profit of a company unless they feel the company is offering them a satisfying deal. Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Then free market kicks in and you have other options for value aka play another title.

The opinion is people want this for free – which is unrealistic but something that is continually hammered into people with all this liberal media.

Nothing is free.

GW2 requires a profit to stay running.

unlock per transmutation stone isnt free. It actually probably would lead to an increase in transmutation stones spent, because like they said, 2000 armor pieces or something. When this change hits, im still going to be hoarding my transmutation stones, i will use some on transmuting legendary looks. If it was unlocks i would spend a lot or all of them and want more, i would also start hunting gears i may only use sometimes.

Unlock is a better system for a fashion system. It gives people reasons to buy lots and lots of clothes, instead of just one.

Its not about free, its about having a more logical and appealing system that reinforces in game goals, and playing the game more.

i believe they will make more money of an unlock system than a rental system, because i believe a rental system is not the way people prefer to deal with fashion.

Rental systems are always more profitable over the course of time vs purchase/unlock systems.

Also, You may not prefer this – quite frankly your preference nor mine will have any impact.

Anet is using this system and we will have to see how it plays out.

JustTrogdor.7892:

phys.7689:

Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Yes because many of those people are of the, “Make everything ever free for me forever or Anet is greedy,” mindset.

I think a lot (not saying majority, just a lot) of people would just prefer an unlocking system to a rental system. I’d rather pay more crystals 1 time to get the functionality to be like the achievement panel. I’d be willing to actually buy gems to get crystals for this type of feature also. But I’m not interested in a system where every time the same skin is used from the wardrobe to replace a different one, it costs.

JustTrogdor.7892:

phys.7689:

Many people arent satisfied with this deal when they actually look closely at it.

Yes because many of those people are of the, “Make everything ever free for me forever or Anet is greedy,” mindset.

my opinion on anet and greed, is more that anet is not maximizing user satisfaction and profit. I think they would have greater user satisfaction AND greater profit with an unlock system. This type of system only pays well if people are constantly changing their looks, but it still doesnt really encourage them to do so. If you are selling 2000 different pieces of clothes, you should be selling the clothes, not forcing people to wear one piece at a time. Everybody is just going to be sitting in the most desired clothes, and pay one time.

its not a good monetary system for clothes.

Will I have to use charges every time I want to change look in pvp? If so, than I hate this change. Right now it’s free.