Guild Wars 2

I’m working on money to be honest. I was thinking maybe hide within dugeon groups with a MF build and hope I can get good loots from playing. Is Magic Find worth it now if I’m working on money?

First off. If you want to make money in dungeons hiding with an mf set will only slow you down while hardly increasing drops. You grind the gold off bosses and rewards when running dungeons. Therefor Omnom bar is all you need. Good examples are CoF and AC, fast runs will net you big money.

Magic find is very useful for DE’s in Orr. I do find my drop rates are better, I get more T6 mats and when in a group with full MF I get an exotic or 2 a day.

Dungeons = No MF

Farming = Max MF

No i run with 0% on some characters and 140% on two others i’ve never seen anything that suggests magic find is better or even works at all.

I personally have the view that its a placebo item dreamed up by Anet to hide poor drop rates in their game, it may be i am wrong, but i’ve never seen any facts for and against to disprove it..

If Magic find helps its so miniscule and insignificant i cannot see the difference, i’ve actually felt it sometimes hinders my drop rates..

Having a 100% mf will double your chance.. If the droprate of an item is 1% then it will turn to 2%.. 2nd dont use mf set in dungeon because it only affects loot drop not the drop rate from chest..

what do you mean now? it was never worth it…

play however you want and deal with the consequences. if for some reason anet implements gear checking option, be ready to grind for a new set of gear.

For one, gear checks will most likely never be implemented. Second, a lot of people actually don’t care what armor people run with, as long as you don’t suck.

The benefits of magic find(MF) have been hotly debated for quite some time on these forums. Some will argue that magic find is great for getting extra loot while others argue that they are worse of with magic find. The bottom line is you need to experiment and find out if magic find is working for you the way you expect it to.

As for hiding in dungeon groups with magic find, that is your personal choice and if people are going to vet pugs based on what armour they have then you can simply find another group to go with. Good group leaders tend to do well with pugs who follow direction than a leader who expects everyone to know what to do, regardless of magic find.

Personally I am worse off with magic find unless I am after fine crafting materials so I only ever wear it if I am farming for them. Your experience may differ.

My personal opinion … not worth it. What MF does is increase the quality of items, not the droprate. Say you have 10% to drop an item with a 10% chance of it being rare. In total that means 1% of drops out of 100 total are rare.
With 100% MF it changes to a 20% drop of rare out of 10% chance to drop an item. Your chance increases to 2% but you still get only 100 drops.

In Orr that can help since others kill for you. In dungeons it slows you down more than you gain.

200 Icebrood, 0% MF, 1 rare, 3 Lodestones, 200 Icebrood 236% MF, 1 Lodestone, 0 rares.

No MF is not worth your time really, as long as the loot tables are also a factor of RNG, all you do is get higher .% , but boosting them all…so also the crap ones. Drop rate increases by 0%. I now Farm the icebrood colossus for 1 hour a day, 0% MF, (don;t count the amount) 6/10 x i walk away with a minimal of 2 lodetones, record is at 8 now lol.

Not it’s not worth it and I hope they remove it soon (hint: it doesn’t even appear on character info screen)

I recently activated my old guardian char that has only MF armor set, and i must say im getting alot more rare drops with it than i was getting with my war doing same thing in Orr.

kRiza krimos.1637:

I recently activated my old guardian char that has only MF armor set, and i must say im getting alot more rare drops with it than i was getting with my war doing same thing in Orr.

Maybe it’s a welcome back present from Anet?

Since it only effects trash mob drops and not chests in dungeons its not worth it one bit. For running around doing events, sure, but its still a waste of gold in the first place if you plan on getting it to grind gold. It’s just counter productive.

@kRiza krimos.1637: Did you reactivate him post patch and have you played your warrior post patch in Orr?

MF is worth it when farming Orr.

My friend has all MF to the top and he is picking up a lot of good drops with MF. So it seems that MF is worth it. I am planning to make me a set of armor with top MF to see if works for me as well.

Just remember, to make it worth it you need to stack it enough to make up for the time it takes to kill mobs.

Say you kill a mob in 3 sec without MF, and it takes you 9 sec with MF gear. You would in reality need enough MF to tripple your chance. Otherwise you would be better off just killing 3 mobs in 9 sec with the regular drop chance.

SneakyErvin.3056:

Since it only effects trash mob drops and not chests in dungeons its not worth it one bit. For running around doing events, sure, but its still a waste of gold in the first place if you plan on getting it to grind gold. It’s just counter productive.

@kRiza krimos.1637: Did you reactivate him post patch and have you played your warrior post patch in Orr?

Afaik patch only increased bags drop rates right? But yea i took him to orr to do dailys there after patch. Cant be sure about playing warr in orr after patch or not since i got 5 alts i cycle thru, 2 of which are warr. But i do know that i never was getting 4-5 rares in 5 events earlier, especially not on alts without MF gear. Latley im getting 4-5 rares on 5 events constantly.

SneakyErvin.3056:

Just remember, to make it worth it you need to stack it enough to make up for the time it takes to kill mobs.

Say you kill a mob in 3 sec without MF, and it takes you 9 sec with MF gear. You would in reality need enough MF to tripple your chance. Otherwise you would be better off just killing 3 mobs in 9 sec with the regular drop chance.

Id say its not about killing speed but about tagging mobs, farming solo outside of events is masochistic =D

MF would not be in the game if it did nothing.

Players must not know how MF really works. Maybe it works better when used with other things like magic field on armor.

SneakyErvin.3056:

Just remember, to make it worth it you need to stack it enough to make up for the time it takes to kill mobs.

Say you kill a mob in 3 sec without MF, and it takes you 9 sec with MF gear. You would in reality need enough MF to tripple your chance. Otherwise you would be better off just killing 3 mobs in 9 sec with the regular drop chance.

except that MF gear is all Power/Prec/MF, so it is the second highest DPS gear next to beserker’s. You won’t be slowed down by that much with MF gear. I actually kill things faster in my MF set then my dungeon set since I use some defensive stats in my dungeon set.

As others have said it is never better to use MF in dungeons. You only kill a minimal amount of mobs, and chests aren’t affected by MF. However in the open world it is up to you.

With current prices it might not be worth it. The price of building the set will take months of grinding to earn back in what you get from extra drops as compared to not having the set, but if you plan on playing for years then it is probably worth the investment.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

SneakyErvin.3056:

Just remember, to make it worth it you need to stack it enough to make up for the time it takes to kill mobs.

Say you kill a mob in 3 sec without MF, and it takes you 9 sec with MF gear. You would in reality need enough MF to tripple your chance. Otherwise you would be better off just killing 3 mobs in 9 sec with the regular drop chance.

except that MF gear is all Power/Prec/MF, so it is the second highest DPS gear next to beserker’s. You won’t be slowed down by that much with MF gear. I actually kill things faster in my MF set then my dungeon set since I use some defensive stats in my dungeon set.

As others have said it is never better to use MF in dungeons. You only kill a minimal amount of mobs, and chests aren’t affected by MF. However in the open world it is up to you.

With current prices it might not be worth it. The price of building the set will take months of grinding to earn back in what you get from extra drops as compared to not having the set, but if you plan on playing for years then it is probably worth the investment.

the second highest would be rampagers, power, precision condition damage. stop spreading lies.

All I can say for certain is I despise people that roll up to dungeons in full MF gear.

Of those who despise MF gear, how many of you are swapping to alts near the end of dungeons for the exp? Those that do this are on the same level if not worse than those people you dislike that use MF.

yeah one thing to remember is magic find is applied on monster kill only... so switching to the setafter comnbat doesent work and using it to open chests doesent work either. have fun!

Ayrilana.1396:

Of those who despise MF gear, how many of you are swapping to alts near the end of dungeons for the exp? Those that do this are on the same level if not worse than those people you dislike that use MF.

A bit offtopic but ill bite,

If you make the effort to complete the dungeon as a player i dont see the problem switchiung to another charcter to claim the reward. i mean you did the hard work dident you..

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

what do you mean now? it was never worth it…

play however you want and deal with the consequences. if for some reason anet implements gear checking option, be ready to grind for a new set of gear.

Early in the games life it was totally worth it, but not any more. You may get “more” loot; however you will never get close to what used to drop.

I made a few ecto’s from my MF set, made a few clovers and quit playing.

No. The most money you will get off of any MF gear is either selling the runes to some poor schmuck on the TP or salvaging the gear its on. MF is broken.

Jezath.7395:

Ayrilana.1396:

Of those who despise MF gear, how many of you are swapping to alts near the end of dungeons for the exp? Those that do this are on the same level if not worse than those people you dislike that use MF.

A bit offtopic but ill bite,

If you make the effort to complete the dungeon as a player i dont see the problem switchiung to another charcter to claim the reward. i mean you did the hard work dident you..

Note quite off topic but I did purposely leave out the point I was making with it.

People who criticize those that use MF claim that it hurts the efficiency of the group (less stats means less damage output and mitigation) and that they’re not pulling their own weight. The thing is that when someone leaves and switches to an alt, the group suffers with that loss of a player plus the hit taken due to a much lower level character. You’re then essentially having the same impact as an MF equipped player would have if not worse.