Guild Wars 2

Since two weeks ago, me and a few friends who do dungeon paths runs for selling have been grieffed and kicked/stolen our own paths from ppl who join via lfg and invite friends to kick you. They dont even needed a 50% of the votes, as sometimes i had two people in the team who already payed and were kicked too.
I know that I need proofs of it and i recorded every run, getting kicked in a few of them. I already sent an email to support and sent a ticket with the link to the video and all……still no answer and players still playing. Is there anything else we can do to punish those grieffers, this thing is getting out of control…

Posting here wont help anything.
A ticket is the way to go and they usually dont tell you, if they took any action.
They are also a bit backlogged atm because alot of players returned after the HoT announcement, so tickets might take longer to be taken care of by CS.

So you did all you can. There’s nothing more you can hear from us except Anet hardly does sth about those griefers. They destroyed any safe way to do dungeons with pugs, not only for sale and abandoned the ship. Good luck next time.

We see several of these posts each week in the dungeon forums (inb4 this one gets moved into the trashcan dungeon forum where it can be safely forgotten).

There is a well know griefer who destroyed multiple parties on a daily basis back when the merge parties feature was broken, and he was caught on video/screenshots by multiple people, and would regularly brag about his horribleness.

We finally got Chris Cleary to take a look at the reports (months after this started), and he let us know that the problem was “taken care of™”.

That player was back in game within a week.

At worst, these people who intentionally and knowingly destroy other people’s work just for the lols get a 72 hour temporary ban.

Personally, I find it appalling. I’m all for second chances when there’s a chance of innocence, but anyone who joins a party and kicks everyone to invite their friends / sell it knows exactly what they’re doing and should be permabanned on the spot. I honestly have no idea why ArenaNet takes effort to keep such toxic players in their game.

Oh, and the case I reference before isn’t unique. Sam from Snow Crows has made several videos showing people griefing him and shared them on the dungeon forums / reddit. Sometimes the people that griefed him even came into the forums and admitted to griefing.

They were all back in-game within days.

If you sell gold, you get a permaban. If you abuse other players, you get a slap on the wrist. I wish ArenaNet would take stealing from us as seriously as they take stealing from them.

I imagine it’s hard for ANet to take an official stance when it comes to selling dungeons. They’ve been laissez-faire about it. Though they could consider selling dungeon paths as actionable behavior for not using the LFG system as intended, they’ve opted for “at your own risk.”

If anything, I’m more aggravated that they have yet to change LFG to majority-rule kick or creator-leader for dealing with party compositions. When two kittenes can clear out a party mid-run so their friends can do the last boss for loot, even the possibility of that keeps me from doing PUGs.

It’s not really related to selling, though. The same thing happens to people just looking for help on the last boss after a member drops or duo/trioing.

I totally agree about the kick system, but it’s just not important enough for them to put resources towards fixing it — HoT is on the way, I don’t expect them to suddenly start caring about bugfixes in the old content/systems now.

dlonie.6547:

It’s not really related to selling, though. The same thing happens to people just looking for help on the last boss after a member drops or duo/trioing.

I totally agree about the kick system, but it’s just not important enough for them to put resources towards fixing it — HoT is on the way, I don’t expect them to suddenly start caring about bugfixes in the old content/systems now.

A sad, resigned +1 to this. :\

Wanze.8410:

A ticket is the way to go and they usually dont tell you, if they took any action.

I’ll amend that to, “ANet will never tell you the outcome of such reports.” The people you reported may or may not have had action taken against them, but you’ll never know.

dlonie.6547:

It’s not really related to selling, though. The same thing happens to people just looking for help on the last boss after a member drops or duo/trioing.

I totally agree about the kick system, but it’s just not important enough for them to put resources towards fixing it — HoT is on the way, I don’t expect them to suddenly start caring about bugfixes in the old content/systems now.

Party system is still one of the most important ingame systems and it will stay like that untill the game dies, unless they completely and from scratch change how players interact with each other. I think a change is coming rather sooner then later.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Wanze.8410:

A ticket is the way to go and they usually dont tell you, if they took any action.

I’ll amend that to, “ANet will never tell you the outcome of such reports.” The people you reported may or may not have had action taken against them, but you’ll never know.

I have them all in my blocklist. And when you see them online every day (or they are offline for max. 1 day in row), you can be sure there wasn’t even a temporary ban.
Few times I even unblocked and pmed them and tried to understand what dark magic drives them to do such things.
I found out they are usually just really stupid people ._.

Not dungeon selling related, but ..
Worst people is the ones who keep you around in a dungeon/fractal untill right before the reward pops, and then kicks you.

Take solace in the fact that their sad, empty lives drove them to grief you in the first place. In the long run that’s punishment enough.