Guild Wars 2

So me and my bros had been playing GW2 from release till about 2 months or so ago and we all just sorta stopped playing. With the stagnant additions to the game in pretty much all aspects of the game, specifically WvW, and PvE, and with seemingly the primary focus being placed on PvP and trying to push the game into an eSport, I pretty much lost interest in the game. I have been following the patch notes though and keeping an eye on the game looking for an opportunity to come back and play, but with each new release it seems like nothing is really getting done other than more and more PvP balance, and very minimal changes to the PvE or WvW systems.

So my main question for those whom are still playing is, how is the game doing? In your opinion is it dying? Is it dead? Or is it flourishing, which I don’t see how it can be in it’s current state.

It’s been a while since we’ve had one of these threads.

People on busy servers / in busy guilds ect will say no.
People on dead servers / dead guilds will say yes.

Ultimately, only Anet has the numbers and can give you a factual answer – and not an anecdotal one – to your question.

It’s not dying and it’s not flourishing. It appears to be just okay imo. Zones are empty for the most part unless you are in Queensdale or the focus of the LS. SPvP has hardly anyone at anymore. It does seem to be dropping off a little bit as time goes on, but that is normal for your typical mmo.

Fernling.1729:

It’s not dying and it’s not flourishing. It appears to be just okay imo. Zones are empty for the most part unless you are in Queensdale or the focus of the LS. SPvP has hardly anyone at anymore. It does seem to be dropping off a little bit as time goes on, but that is normal for your typical mmo.

See I disagree here. GW2 is such a young game, it should still be growing. Take WoW for example, it grew for years, and years, and years, before a few faulty expansions have started to cause it’s player base to dwindle. Grandit, WoW is the most successful MMO of all time, but if were talking massive MMO’s it’s a legitimate comparison.

galandor.1059:

Fernling.1729:

It’s not dying and it’s not flourishing. It appears to be just okay imo. Zones are empty for the most part unless you are in Queensdale or the focus of the LS. SPvP has hardly anyone at anymore. It does seem to be dropping off a little bit as time goes on, but that is normal for your typical mmo.

See I disagree here. GW2 is such a young game, it should still be growing. Take WoW for example, it grew for years, and years, and years, before a few faulty expansions have started to cause it’s player base to dwindle. Grandit, WoW is the most successful MMO of all time, but if were talking massive MMO’s it’s a legitimate comparison.

The thing you don’t seem to be taking into consideration though is that before expansions, content updates and such, WoW’s population also dipped.

WoW has had expansions. GW2 has not (yet, at least).

As I said, we have absolutely no idea whether the game is growing / dwindling.

What Fernling said. I’ve been meeting new players over the last week or so, so some people are coming in. Obviously other people will drop out for whatever reason. I feel that the game is just chugging along.

GW2 will grow rapidly with the release in China. In September they told us the numbers of player are still increasing – a slow but steady increase. They had no decrease during summer. Many people returned end of the year and many started new.

There are no stagnant additions in WvW or PvE. They ae testuíg a new WvW map and new mechanics there. The release will be March with high probability. We saw an overhauled Obsidian Sanctum. In PvE we saw nice additions of content recently. The portion of permanent is drastically increased. WE see permanent changes in the world now caused by the players. Achievement were much longer available. I see progression and not stagnation.

NCSoft’s Third Quarter Earnings Report showed that Sales, Operating Profit, Pre-tax Income and Net Income were all lower that quarter than any of the prior four quarters. The report blamed this in part to a large percentage of Lineage’s in-game item sales being carried over to the fourth quarter. Nonetheless, this wasn’t a stellar report. And Guild Wars 2 and ArenaNet are a major part of NCSoft. At the very least there’s no reason to believe the game is growing and thriving. At best it’s holding its own.

Info for you:

NCsoft’s latest financials are out, and show a 49 per cent fall in net income on last quarter, but a 322 per cent rise year on year. Sales follow the same pattern, down 51 per cent on the last quarter, but up 31 per cent on last year.

Q1 sales were ?184.9 million or $166.3m (£108.2m), while net income for the same period stood at ?52.3m or $47.1m (£30.6m).

Korea remained NCsoft’s biggest market with 64 per cent of sales, up from 43 per cent last quarter. North America’s share fell from 25 per cent to 13 per cent, while Europe fell from 18 per cent to 8 per cent. The company’s biggest seller for Q1 2013 was Lineage 1, but Guild Wars 2 still maintained a 21 per cent share.

NCsoft’s managing director, Nah Seong Chan, also hinted during the earnings call that the company was planning to address falling Guild Wars 2 sales with a new expansion pack.

“In terms of box sales and microtransactions are still very strong, and of course we are preparing an expansion pack but in terms of when we will actually launch it, it’s something we are still monitoring… We are looking to the performance of the game and then we will decide what will be the best time to do the launch.”

Unfortunately developer ArenaNet doesn’t appear to have got the memo, with director Colin Johanson saying as recently as March that none were currently planned.

“Expansions are definitely something that we’ll potentially look at in the future, but we don’t have a timetable on it. We’re open to it, but I think our major focus as a studio is making the living world concept as strong as possibly can for the players that we’ve got.”

Here’s the link:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-13-ncsoft-profits-up-yoy-but-down-on-last-quarter

So NCSoft seems to realize they need an expansion… but ANet has no word of it…. make of that what you will.

Unfortunately all the financial statements are in Korean. It would have been great to see an English 10K, which would have lots of info on segments typically.

Been playing since the beginning and I have stopped buying gem cards and have a few new games to play from the steam sale—so in my case and others I know , we just aren’t playing it or spending money on it.—Made my 1st acsended and I won’t do that grind again, RNG is flawed and I doubt I will ever have a legendary. The 2 week additions have become just more of the same as well a mediocre, and what they did to TEQ was just inexcusible. Still havn’t bothered to complete my pesonal story since they made the conclusion MP instead of SP like the rest of the personal story. I’ll come back when new areas open and I have new maps (that’s plural not singular!!!)to explore.
More power to NCSoft—-I suggest they order Anet to make a great expansion ASAP.

ozmaniandevil.6805:

Info for you:

NCsoft’s latest financials are out, and show a 49 per cent fall in net income on last quarter, but a 322 per cent rise year on year. Sales follow the same pattern, down 51 per cent on the last quarter, but up 31 per cent on last year.

Q1 sales were ?184.9 million or $166.3m (£108.2m), while net income for the same period stood at ?52.3m or $47.1m (£30.6m).

Korea remained NCsoft’s biggest market with 64 per cent of sales, up from 43 per cent last quarter. North America’s share fell from 25 per cent to 13 per cent, while Europe fell from 18 per cent to 8 per cent. The company’s biggest seller for Q1 2013 was Lineage 1, but Guild Wars 2 still maintained a 21 per cent share.

NCsoft’s managing director, Nah Seong Chan, also hinted during the earnings call that the company was planning to address falling Guild Wars 2 sales with a new expansion pack.

“In terms of box sales and microtransactions are still very strong, and of course we are preparing an expansion pack but in terms of when we will actually launch it, it’s something we are still monitoring… We are looking to the performance of the game and then we will decide what will be the best time to do the launch.”

Unfortunately developer ArenaNet doesn’t appear to have got the memo, with director Colin Johanson saying as recently as March that none were currently planned.

“Expansions are definitely something that we’ll potentially look at in the future, but we don’t have a timetable on it. We’re open to it, but I think our major focus as a studio is making the living world concept as strong as possibly can for the players that we’ve got.”

Here’s the link:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-13-ncsoft-profits-up-yoy-but-down-on-last-quarter

So NCSoft seems to realize they need an expansion… but ANet has no word of it…. make of that what you will.

ah, earning calls and MD&A, the stuffs i like. If like any global corp, NCSoft will shove it down Anet throat eventually as the number continue to do bad.

galandor.1059:

seemingly the primary focus being placed on PvP and trying to push the game into an eSport

This has to be an elaborate troll.