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Posted by: wildfang.9670

wildfang.9670

lets talk ascended k k. first these are not easy sets to genuinely get nor are they cheap for the avg player. they combine time gating and grinding in order to get stats you want and can easily take months to get for a single character.

the big issue isn’t about the grinding one could even argue it’s not entirely about new sets being introduced.

the issue bottomline is that when a change happens we are stuck with what we have and while this was not worth mentioning during the exotic times it is now. the fact is that when combat or stats are changed and they have been quite drastic ones players are at times stuck with quite sub par stats / sets. back with exoitics it was a simple day maybe a week get your gold buy a new set with ascended it can set you back MONTHS.

this is ….crushing. now we have new sets of armor stat wise being introduced that would had likely enticed player prior but now we must either make a brand new set in order to get those sets or just well deal with it. this can be a BIG problem or a MINOR problem depending on how much work you’ve already put in and how many alts you have.

honestly is it about time to either make it so ascended weapons are a buyable or b give us a option to swap our stats for ascended at the cost of gems or bloody hell give us a salvage kit tha will let us get the mats used to make said weapon. not a chance but for certain.

why am I saying this simple sinister armor put me in a awkward spot. back when I was origionally starting condtion warrior knowing how hybrid the warrior sword and bow were I wanted the set that is now known as sinister.

grinding to get my ascended armor was not fun.. in fact to be blunt it is probably one of the most boring tedious and monotonous things I’ve done.

sigh I hate grinding but I understand that their needs to be content for people to do but time gating is just as bad as a ludicriously stupidly high requirement that takes absurd amounts of time and effort to get. while it’s not as kittenome mmo’s it’s definitely way to much.

argument can be made exoitic is perfectly viable in pve this is correct you cn finsh content insanely quick in pve although it’s not impossible that future updates will change this as the content must be reasonably challenging for the best sets making it harder on lower sets as well. so that is quite possible to change as the game ages.

the issue i’m trying to point out is it quite sucks to be on the end of a update that makes you feel like your hard work adds up to nil. ill be blunt their is no reason ascended armor / weapons should not be buyable on the tp. will it cause legends to crash yes likely it will. but why is that a bad thing? if you quip a legend (most who make them do) you can’t sell it the fact is only thing not allowing asc to be sold is keeping legend artififically high and that kinda of ironic that the end game ish content is buyable the not quite as good tier isn’t.

gems swapping asc I doubt would likely replace legendries swap stats. since 1 costs either a ton of gold or irl money! and the other does not. if your worried that it would then implement a wait period that would give another edge to legends who can swap out of combat by making us use the same stat combo for lets say 24 hours. that’s semi reasonable will improve the legendary prospects and still fix this problem.

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Posted by: Azhure.1857

Azhure.1857

Putting the QQ aside… Is there something wrong with your shift key?

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

Chrispy.5641

Honestly, I can make any armor set work for the Ranger, so its not much problem for me. Then again, I haven’t got the in game financial ability to even make a full ascended set of armor, and its not really worth it to me if I spend 300+ gold on a set of armor and can’t change stats when I can buy 12 exotic sets of armor for the same price and minimal difference in stat values….so, there’s that. Would be nice though to have an option to change stats on super expensive ascended armor.

@Azhure, lowercase only is a legitimate case style of writing in the English language in non-formal circumstances. Many people use it for the speed and ease of typing without having to press the shift key, as it can considerably slow down typing speed.

it is not any harder to read, and actually, it might be easier/faster to read because your brain is now only processing the minute differences between 26 letters instead of 52.

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Posted by: Shylark.4951

Shylark.4951

Honestly, I can make any armor set work for the Ranger, so its not much problem for me. Then again, I haven’t got the in game financial ability to even make a full ascended set of armor, and its not really worth it to me if I spend 300+ gold on a set of armor and can’t change stats when I can buy 12 exotic sets of armor for the same price and minimal difference in stat values….so, there’s that. Would be nice though to have an option to change stats on super expensive ascended armor.

@Azhure, lowercase only is a legitimate case style of writing in the English language in non-formal circumstances. Many people use it for the speed and ease of typing without having to press the shift key, as it can considerably slow down typing speed.

it is not any harder to read, and actually, it might be easier/faster to read because your brain is now only processing the minute differences between 26 letters instead of 52.

I am using the Valkyrie Emblazoned set for my Ranger it is good doing PvE I haven’t done any PvP or WvW.. But it was not hard to make.. I don’t think I really need any better for now…. My Leather working is at 436 I haven’t done much since I made my set.. But I don’t really need any thing right now….

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

My issue isn’t with how long it takes to make, so much as how the current system hinders experimentation.

Why try something new when you know it’s going to be a ton of work to even try it?

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Posted by: Pandaman.4758

Pandaman.4758

[…]it might be easier/faster to read because your brain is now only processing the minute differences between 26 letters instead of 52.

http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2013/papers/0462/paper0462.pdf

Capitalization does not affect reading speed, it influences certain reading behaviors, but is related to the processing of words and not the processing of individual letters.

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

Chrispy.5641

One other thing that should be said is that rune sets work optimally, only with certain stat combinations, so even if armor was introduced so that you could change stats…your going to be spending an awful lot of money changing runes around.

I am using the Valkyrie Emblazoned set for my Ranger it is good doing PvE I haven’t done any PvP or WvW.. But it was not hard to make.. I don’t think I really need any better for now…. My Leather working is at 436 I haven’t done much since I made my set.. But I don’t really need any thing right now….

I’ve been recently using the Magi stat in PvE. which many people consider to be useless. Works just fine in pet builds.

[…]it might be easier/faster to read because your brain is now only processing the minute differences between 26 letters instead of 52.

http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2013/papers/0462/paper0462.pdf

Capitalization does not affect reading speed, it influences certain reading behaviors, but is related to the processing of words and not the processing of individual letters.

Didn’t know that all nouns are capitalized in German (yes, I did read it!). However, I don’t think I was technically wrong. According to the study, mean reading speeds is one word faster per minute if all the words are lowercase in comparison to if capitalization rules were followed, (which does mean there is probably no measurable difference at all in English)((also, in a stunning development not surprising to anyone in the world, the reason for the lack of a difference in reading speeds compared to studies from decades ago where proper capitalization can supposedly be reliably read faster, was because of technology.))

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently.

I’ve been working on an ascended coat for my ranger, who currently uses mainly rabid stats, and wondering if I should hold off in case they add a set with condition damage, power and toughness which is what I really wanted.

Then I remembered I don’t do Fractals so I don’t actually need ascended gear. If a new stat combination comes out and I want it I can just go back to using exotics.

Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).

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Posted by: ozmaniandevil.6805

ozmaniandevil.6805

As Danikat mentions, if you’re not doing fractals it won’t have as great an impact on your game play should a different meta arise with game changes. Personally, I do not do fractals, but I would like to make one set of ascended armor for each of my toons (I have one light, one medium, and one heavy). I don’t really need it, but it’s just a goal I have since I’d rather put my time to that than to legendaries, none of which I like.

However, since I don’t do fractals, I will be making berserker armor for all three, as I know I can use that in all PvE content (even my necro is a power build in WvW and PvE). That being said, I know the min-maxers who do fractals would be quite concerned about future changes to meta. What does concern me in particular is wasting runes, as those will need to be changed from time to time, and can run into hundreds of gold.

All in all I get what the OP is saying and I agree that since we can’t even get the mats back out of this armor if we choose to use something different, then being able to change stats would at least be something to help make “old meta” armor useful.

Isle of Janthir – Knights of the Rose (KoR)

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

Chrispy.5641

If anything, get ascended Weapons instead of armor anyways. Those increase your skill damage by roughly 5% because weapon strength multiplies with your power stat.

Ascended defense is added to your toughness stat to make total armor. While it appears to be 5% more defense, it only increases your total armor by 2% or so. Total damage reduction might be even less than that, and the effect from just armor is lower the more toughness you add.