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Posted by: DakotaCoty.5721

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Isn’t it time for a forum improvement?

XenForo seems to be a popular option for a lot of communities and allows a much vaster interaction of forum posting.

Notifications, friending, profile linking (twitter, twitch, facebook) excellent stuff for content creators and the general community.

We lack notifications on this forum, basic social media linking (resorted to posting it in signatures) also no actual profile building can be done on this forum, it would be great if we could adopt a more community-friendly forum.

Perhaps this would bring people back from Reddit to using this place a main hub of communication. Purely speculation, though.

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Posted by: Hannelore.8153

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They likely run their own forum software because they don’t want to have to moderate people using things that are against the rules (avatars, sigimgs, etc.).

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Posted by: DakotaCoty.5721

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They likely run their own forum software because they don’t want to have to moderate people using things that are against the rules (avatars, sigimgs, etc.).

They could get some volunteer moderators to do that type of thing for them – ‘other’ games do it also, I just think we’re missing some key features that allow us to develop our GW2 profile outside of the game.

1. Notifications…
2. Avatars…
3. Choose your forum-title based on your in-game unlocked titles
4. Thread count.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

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Would improving the forum cost money….

If yes, then no.

Why should they spend money revamping the official forum when ANet and the players can post in Reddit (the (un)official forum) instead, for free.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

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I’d love if they switch to Discourse. Very neat and very pretty forum system.

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Posted by: Flatley.1620

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Avatars are nice but they’d need controlling to reduce forum lag. A 10 page thread where everyone’s avatar is an animated gif for instance… Eeuw.

But I’ d agree, they do need an overhaul and brought more up-to-date

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Posted by: Yargesh.4965

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They switch forums and all posts up until the switch are either gone or archived and not accessible.

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They switch forums and all posts up until the switch are either gone or archived and not accessible.

They can archive them like other games have so relevant resources are available.

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They switch forums and all posts up until the switch are either gone or archived and not accessible.

They can archive them like other games have so relevant resources are available.

Forum software is proprietary to someone else, if they don’t use it I would guess they can’t access it. Maybe not, irrelevant since it is up to ANET to either use what they have or cater to a minority of a minority.

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They switch forums and all posts up until the switch are either gone or archived and not accessible.

They can archive them like other games have so relevant resources are available.

Forum software is proprietary to someone else, if they don’t use it I would guess they can’t access it. Maybe not, irrelevant since it is up to ANET to either use what they have or cater to a minority of a minority.

BDO have both of their forums up and available through search on their own website and also on google, so any and old content / information is still findable through common search resources, I don’t think this should be considered an issue with the technology we have today.

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Posted by: Offair.2563

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They don’t even take time to fix the search forum. Instead they post a sticky with a work around. So nope no improvements incoming.

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They don’t even take time to fix the search forum. Instead they post a sticky with a work around. So nope no improvements incoming.

Surely If the community can work together, we can be heard and this dream can become a reality.

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Posted by: starlinvf.1358

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They don’t even take time to fix the search forum. Instead they post a sticky with a work around. So nope no improvements incoming.

Surely If the community can work together, we can be heard and this dream can become a reality.

More like a nightmare. The problem with “suggesting” software, is that when people think its open for discussion, they’ll devolve into arguments about which software is better then all the other software, and lament when their preference wasn’t chosen.

The software scene for forums is also supremely fractured; and has only gotten more chaotic as its evolved into a demand for “Communication Platforms” instead of discrete, single focus services. You have frameworks, products made from frameworks, products made from propitiatory frameworks, propitiatory products, services, software as a service, supported, unsupported, open source, close source, industry standard, non-standard, modular, bundles, fixed packages……. and not a single one of them capable of actually addressing all know use cases, and especially not without extensive cost in either licensing, outsourced development, or in-house experts.

Players see this as a user experience, but for the people running it, its business decision based on cost/returns. The problem that arises from this is the inherently fickleness of large communities like this one, where something as inane as the color scheme can be make or break; which can eventually turn the new platform into an amplifier for them to voice how much they hate using it.

As the saying goes….. “Everything sucks and needs to change, but in the end I liked the old way better”.

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Posted by: Zedek.8932

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Avatars are nice but they’d need controlling to reduce forum lag. A 10 page thread where everyone’s avatar is an animated gif for instance… Eeuw.

But I’ d agree, they do need an overhaul and brought more up-to-date

Excelsior.

This is not 1998 and dial-up anymore. Don’t you think designers and programmers figured out those problems already when it was really a problem with bandwidth?
First of all, this is what a cache is for since at least 20 years, when you were glad you had “this” 30 KByte file on your harddrive alraedy and not loading it for 25 seconds via 28.8 kBaud (I remember IE4 had a cache on our Win95 PC). Second, the amount of forum users is not that high, so you will encounter everyone in a few days of reading. Third, third-party hosters normally just set up a placeholder, so it does not block any loading.

And no, I like this forum. It’s clean and neat. When I look at the hideous FF14 forums for example, some free BulletinBoard stuff, nah.

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Posted by: DakotaCoty.5721

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They don’t even take time to fix the search forum. Instead they post a sticky with a work around. So nope no improvements incoming.

Surely If the community can work together, we can be heard and this dream can become a reality.

More like a nightmare. The problem with “suggesting” software, is that when people think its open for discussion, they’ll devolve into arguments about which software is better then all the other software, and lament when their preference wasn’t chosen.

The software scene for forums is also supremely fractured; and has only gotten more chaotic as its evolved into a demand for “Communication Platforms” instead of discrete, single focus services. You have frameworks, products made from frameworks, products made from propitiatory frameworks, propitiatory products, services, software as a service, supported, unsupported, open source, close source, industry standard, non-standard, modular, bundles, fixed packages……. and not a single one of them capable of actually addressing all know use cases, and especially not without extensive cost in either licensing, outsourced development, or in-house experts.

Players see this as a user experience, but for the people running it, its business decision based on cost/returns. The problem that arises from this is the inherently fickleness of large communities like this one, where something as inane as the color scheme can be make or break; which can eventually turn the new platform into an amplifier for them to voice how much they hate using it.

As the saying goes….. “Everything sucks and needs to change, but in the end I liked the old way better”.

This isn’t about leading the community down a path as to which software is better, right now, any software that is modern would be better than the current format ArenaNet is using.

This doesn’t feel like a forum, it feels like a really archaic chat room or emailing system.

We woudd have to be objective about this, and right now, we are missing some key features that nearly every other forum has picked up or added. The majority of the community will do a quick google search and post an opinion about what they think is better. ANET should just make the decision for the players and then discuss some features they would want.

This removes most subjectivity from the discussion at hand.

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