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It's been two years...
I have this feel, you’re not going to like what people are going to say.
I know what is going to happen.
I want more too.
Edit: Got called away before I finished the thought. I don’t think an optional sub is the best way to go about getting it though.
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premium membership of any type= no. I buy gems and invest in this game because it doesn’t have that kitten.
premium membership of any type= no. I buy gems and invest in this game because it doesn’t have that kitten.
So, you’re saying, if I was willing to pay $15/mo and nothing changed for you (you didn’t have to pay $15/mo), other than more meaningful content was made available to you because me and maybe a few others were willing to invest $15/mo, you would not be down for that? I’m a little confused, but I respect your opinion.
That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
I feel you, I really do. I would LOVE an expansion, and I really would pay A LOT to see that happen. It’s almost as if Anet doesn’t see the good it would do for them if they were to release an expansion. I’m like you, I played GW1 a lot (6k+ hours), and I still play GW2 everyday….the main reason is because I have friends on the game who I otherwise would lose contact with if I were to quit playing.
The living story is a neat idea, and I give Anet props for trying something new…but idk if it’s just me or whatever, but the game could really thrive with something…BIGGER.
Heck, I would be perfectly happy if Utopia came out and gw1 kept getting updates, instead of the direction Anet went with (Gw2). Don’t get me wrong, I love this game…but like the OP said, I just want more.
That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
No, but maybe news of an expansion on the horizon would be great.
That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
No, that is the problem. There is no indication that any large drop of meaningful content is coming for those of us who have accomplished what we set out to do in the base game and are bored waiting for more stuff to keep us entertained.
And yes, I know there are people who spend way more than $15/mo in the gem store (lord knows I have spent many times more than that at times). I was merely suggesting something of a volunteer type subscription to help with cash flow for Anet in the event that perhaps that is the culprit for why we are not getting a major content drop.
If they called it the “help further fund the next expansion pack subscription”, I am sure plenty of people would jump on that at this point. Give those of us who subscribe alpha/beta testing privileges along with a closed forum where we could maybe collaborate with the developers on certain things. I think it would be neat!
That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
No, but maybe news of an expansion on the horizon would be great.
I agree I would like that as well, but I don’t understand all the hostility and complain/gripe threads and trying to force people’s hand. You must do this or I will quit playing and the like. If I were a dev I would reply with I don’t want you to play my game anyways if that is how you are going to treat me.
Funny, I see you mentioned people stacking in a corner because AI is dumb. The thing is, when games first came out people didn’t know what to expect. But after time, games just become too easy, especially against AI.
Stacking in a corner is just common strategy in every game, have make sure all the attacks land, deal as much dps as possible, etc.
Think of games like a job, the more you do your job the better you are, the more you play games the better you are or the ‘play’ will be because of influence by those that have been doing it forever.
You got these people that played fps, to DoD, to starcraft, to diablo 2, to raiding in WoW, to GW, to LoL, to GW2. That’s a pretty good history of gaming, gaming shouldn’t be too challenging for you even what the developers consider or make it challenging because fact is you been doing this for a long time, nothing really impressive and you seen it all already.
Get with the times, since the FGS nerf there’s no more need for stacking.
That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
No, but maybe news of an expansion on the horizon would be great.
I agree I would like that as well, but I don’t understand all the hostility and complain/gripe threads and trying to force people’s hand. You must do this or I will quit playing and the like. If I were a dev I would reply with I don’t want you to play my game anyways if that is how you are going to treat me.
Just to clarify, I never once suggested in the original post “I will quit if X”. If you re-read it, I clearly explain I love this game. I just, feel my (as I am sure many others feel) interest in it wavering and anet doing really nothing about it. It is almost like anet no loner is interested in keeping me around, even though I supported GW1 from the start and continued to do so with every release they had.
Funny, I see you mentioned people stacking in a corner because AI is dumb. The thing is, when games first came out people didn’t know what to expect. But after time, games just become too easy, especially against AI.
Stacking in a corner is just common strategy in every game, have make sure all the attacks land, deal as much dps as possible, etc.
Think of games like a job, the more you do your job the better you are, the more you play games the better you are or the ‘play’ will be because of influence by those that have been doing it forever.
You got these people that played fps, to DoD, to starcraft, to diablo 2, to raiding in WoW, to GW, to LoL, to GW2. That’s a pretty good history of gaming, gaming shouldn’t be too challenging for you even what the developers consider or make it challenging because fact is you been doing this for a long time, nothing really impressive and you seen it all already.
I see what you are saying, and it is true. But you know this isn’t a case of people just getting so good they are able to fly through stuff. We’ve seen anet release some AWESOME boss battles, especially lately. This has me really excited at the prospect of future dungeon releases. It’s the original 12 or so dungeons the game launched with that are plain and simply broken.
What ever happened to the project that involved redesigning all the dungeons? Ascalon got an update, and we were told the rest would follow suit, and that never happened. All we got was a path in Twilight Arbor that nobody really runs anymore. Where are the results for all these changes they announced so long ago?
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That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
No, but maybe news of an expansion on the horizon would be great.
I agree I would like that as well, but I don’t understand all the hostility and complain/gripe threads and trying to force people’s hand. You must do this or I will quit playing and the like. If I were a dev I would reply with I don’t want you to play my game anyways if that is how you are going to treat me.
Just to clarify, I never once suggested in the original post “I will quit if X”. If you re-read it, I clearly explain I love this game. I just, feel my (as I am sure many others feel) interest in it wavering and anet doing really nothing about it. It is almost like anet no loner is interested in keeping me around, even though I supported GW1 from the start and continued to do so with every release they had.
I saw that in another post today the I’ll quit thing. You know what you are really preaching to the choir in a way because I have been playing as long if not longer in the GW world, and in some ways I feel the same as you do. The overall point I am trying to make is “Why all the negativity?” I mean that in a general sense to be clear.
As someone who was a GW1 veteran and invested in this gaming world for a long time, I would think that others like me would be excited the way the game is headed from a lore point of view. If you don’t like the LS and achievements that is not really Anet’s fault. Peace.
What ever happened to the project that involved redesigning all the dungeons? Ascalon got an update, and we were told the rest would follow suit, and that never happened. All we got was a path in Twilight Arbor that nobody really runs anymore. Where are the results for all these changes they announced so long ago?
The dungeon team was disbanded a long time ago.
Funny, I see you mentioned people stacking in a corner because AI is dumb. The thing is, when games first came out people didn’t know what to expect. But after time, games just become too easy, especially against AI.
Stacking in a corner is just common strategy in every game, have make sure all the attacks land, deal as much dps as possible, etc.
Think of games like a job, the more you do your job the better you are, the more you play games the better you are or the ‘play’ will be because of influence by those that have been doing it forever.
You got these people that played fps, to DoD, to starcraft, to diablo 2, to raiding in WoW, to GW, to LoL, to GW2. That’s a pretty good history of gaming, gaming shouldn’t be too challenging for you even what the developers consider or make it challenging because fact is you been doing this for a long time, nothing really impressive and you seen it all already.
I see what you are saying, and it is true. But you know this isn’t a case of people just getting so good they are able to fly through stuff. We’ve seen anet release some AWESOME boss battles, especially lately. This has me really excited at the prospect of future dungeon releases. It’s the original 12 or so dungeons the game launched with that are plain and simply broken.
What ever happened to the project that involved redesigning all the dungeons? Ascalon got an update, and we were told the rest would follow suit, and that never happened. All we got was a path in Twilight Arbor that nobody really runs anymore. Where are the results for all these changes they announced so long ago?
We aren’t getting new dungeons, or an overhaul of existing dungeons; Arenanet no longer has a dedicated dungeon team.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umpR6LhBhW4#t=256 (a few months ago, if I remember correctly)
That is exactly what the gem store is for. You better believe that some spend a lot more than $15 a month too. What is with the sense of urgency in the forums lately? Do you guys expect an expansion for holiday release?
No, but maybe news of an expansion on the horizon would be great.
I agree I would like that as well, but I don’t understand all the hostility and complain/gripe threads and trying to force people’s hand. You must do this or I will quit playing and the like. If I were a dev I would reply with I don’t want you to play my game anyways if that is how you are going to treat me.
Just to clarify, I never once suggested in the original post “I will quit if X”. If you re-read it, I clearly explain I love this game. I just, feel my (as I am sure many others feel) interest in it wavering and anet doing really nothing about it. It is almost like anet no loner is interested in keeping me around, even though I supported GW1 from the start and continued to do so with every release they had.
I saw that in another post today the I’ll quit thing. You know what you are really preaching to the choir in a way because I have been playing as long if not longer in the GW world, and in some ways I feel the same as you do. The overall point I am trying to make is “Why all the negativity?” I mean that in a general sense to be clear.
As someone who was a GW1 veteran and invested in this gaming world for a long time, I would think that others like me would be excited the way the game is headed from a lore point of view. If you don’t like the LS and achievements that is not really Anet’s fault. Peace.
Many people agree the LS is great! Aside from some of the curious writing…. I love lore and story, I really enjoy the living story. The Living Story just doesn’t cover enough content wise. I think if people enjoy achievements thats awesome go for it, but I certainly don’t feel like achievement hunting should be end game.
Funny, I see you mentioned people stacking in a corner because AI is dumb. The thing is, when games first came out people didn’t know what to expect. But after time, games just become too easy, especially against AI.
Stacking in a corner is just common strategy in every game, have make sure all the attacks land, deal as much dps as possible, etc.
Think of games like a job, the more you do your job the better you are, the more you play games the better you are or the ‘play’ will be because of influence by those that have been doing it forever.
You got these people that played fps, to DoD, to starcraft, to diablo 2, to raiding in WoW, to GW, to LoL, to GW2. That’s a pretty good history of gaming, gaming shouldn’t be too challenging for you even what the developers consider or make it challenging because fact is you been doing this for a long time, nothing really impressive and you seen it all already.
I see what you are saying, and it is true. But you know this isn’t a case of people just getting so good they are able to fly through stuff. We’ve seen anet release some AWESOME boss battles, especially lately. This has me really excited at the prospect of future dungeon releases. It’s the original 12 or so dungeons the game launched with that are plain and simply broken.
What ever happened to the project that involved redesigning all the dungeons? Ascalon got an update, and we were told the rest would follow suit, and that never happened. All we got was a path in Twilight Arbor that nobody really runs anymore. Where are the results for all these changes they announced so long ago?
We aren’t getting new dungeons, or an overhaul of existing dungeons; Arenanet no longer has a dedicated dungeon team.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umpR6LhBhW4#t=256 (a few months ago, if I remember correctly)
They seem so determined to do the easiest stuff ONLY. The guy actually said “yeah, were trying to stay away from big changes and stuff”. He even mentioned achievements as something they like doing and compared it along side with something difficult in a dungeon!
I immediately regret watching that video….
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So, you’re saying, if I was willing to pay $15/mo and nothing changed for you (you didn’t have to pay $15/mo), other than more meaningful content was made available to you because me and maybe a few others were willing to invest $15/mo, you would not be down for that? I’m a little confused, but I respect your opinion.
There might be a few people willing to throw $15 a month at ANet for no return other than the hope that ANet would maybe produce some content they might like. That’s not the way business nor people work, though. A business would need many thousands of such payments to justify the significant outlay of cash to hire more staff. Many thousands will not pay that much without expecting something in return. Even crowd-funded games throw plenty of benefits at supporters.
Freemium games have such optional “subs.” The ones I’ve seen do in fact offer benefits as part of the package. Depending on what those benefits are, things might in fact change for those who don’t opt in. Where do these benefits come from? Will there need to be increased resources to produce the rewards for the subscribers each month? Will the non-supporters be relegated to the status of free-to-play players in F2P games? Will basic game features be taken away to then be given as part of the sub and sold piecemeal in the store?
Then there’s ANet’s advertisement of the game as Buy to Play. This is different than P2P, F2P and Freemium. A departure from B2P w/ store to B2P with Freemium and store would be a public relations disaster.
Finally, crowd-funding is for game designers who don’t have publishers. Using a crowd-funding concept to fund development in a game with a corporate publisher does nothing but encourage the publisher to penny-pinch the developer further. These types of games should be encouraged to develop content the customer wants, then get paid, not get paid more to maybe produce what they’re producing now.
The gemstore is already an optional sub. That money is going into further development.
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