Guild Wars 2

I know it’s kinda early to say this but December is drawing near anyway.
I’m not sure how many patches are there till the end of the year. Perhaps 1 or 2 (without Wintersday)? I’m sure they’ll be as good as the last one, or Season 2 as a whole for that matter.
It turns out to be the best year so far for GW2. With EotM and 2 new areas to explore, the last one of which is going to get even bigger makes things even better. I’m impressed and at the same time proud of the work that’s been done so far – story and content wise. My time and cash was well spent.

Despite the problems with traits, NPE and condi dmg, me and my friends are well satisfied with the game this year. I can boldly say that 2013 was a struggle. But not this time.
The Marrionette was awesome and the battle for LA being the most hardcore gameplay (oh the great midnight offensive parties); up to Scarlet’s demise after so much hate – superb ending for S1
To the other side of Tyria into new territories and foes. S2 proved what S1 was supposed to be. Cheerz to that guy with the crazy pictures giving directions on how things should be done and to all others that gave suggestions for a better direction.
Season 2 is an example of the potential the game can provide. And the last patch pretty much nailed it. The new PvP system and all the cool QoL updates are good as well.

Obviously the communication with devs works most of the time Kudos to the team that listened to us.
All in all we wanted things. We got `em delivered. Some love for the FotM rewards will be much appreciated. Adding timers for the temples back would be nice too. Some new skills perhaps? I also see Marjory Delaqua wielding a GS now and she’s a necro..hmm. And so many other things..wanted.

I can talk on and on but i’ll keep this post short. Just keep up the pace and good work like this into 2015. I’m sure it’s going to be even more epic.
Now all I want for christmas is a rebuilt Lion’s Arch…maybe?..BRB going back ingame.

For me it would be really fine if not for the megaserver, which turned Tyria into a giant farm. It’d really take some time to rescale the old zones for the crowds we have now… And I’ve got the feeling they’re not even trying to.

Etien.4601:

Just keep up the pace and good work like this into 2015

What pace? this?

… am I missing something?

Korossive.7085:

Etien.4601:

Just keep up the pace and good work like this into 2015

What pace? this?

… am I missing something?

Obviously. If you think inside the box like some of the forum posters here, I blieve you are missing the big picture. The additions we have this year are way way way better than last year’s. So for me and my guild mates it’s something.

Etien.4601:

. … With EotM and 2 new areas to explore, the last one of which is going to get even bigger makes things even better….
The Marrionette was awesome and the battle for LA being the most hardcore gameplay… The new PvP system and all the cool QoL updates are good as well.

Obviously the communication with devs works most of the time Kudos to the team that listened to us.
… Some love for the FotM rewards will be much appreciated. …

Picked up the most absurd things you managed to come with.
EotM is the biggest waste of resources. But what else can happen when you invite PvE guilds to test and give feedback for PvP zone? And you want better rewards? For what exactly?
LA and Marionette hardcore events? Did you just come from mobile gaming or something?
There’s barely any communication with devs.
New maps are 1/4 the size of the vanilla maps.
Most of the QoL updates were bug fixes and features that had to be there on launch.
sPvP is still dead. And don’t even tell me about those tournaments. GvGs get more views.
GW2 must be your first PC game.

I don’t know that I’d say this is a good year for Anet. I think it’s been a turbulent year. I think that there are plenty of unfair comments on the forums but plenty of fair ones too. The game has made progress…and yes I’ve liked both new zones, but there’s plenty that requires attention that hasn’t received attention.

In short, I’m still enjoying the game, but just as I don’t really kow tow to the doom and gloom crowd, I don’t think it’s really fair to say this has been a good year for Anet.

I’m hoping next year will be a better year though.

If Anet can avoid some of the stumbles it’s made this year, next year might well be better.

Vayne.8563:

I don’t know that I’d say this is a good year for Anet. I think it’s been a turbulent year. I think that there are plenty of unfair comments on the forums but plenty of fair ones too. The game has made progress…and yes I’ve liked both new zones, but there’s plenty that requires attention that hasn’t received attention.

In short, I’m still enjoying the game, but just as I don’t really kow tow to the doom and gloom crowd, I don’t think it’s really fair to say this has been a good year for Anet.

I’m hoping next year will be a better year though.

If Anet can avoid some of the stumbles it’s made this year, next year might well be better.

You know I agree with everything you say.
For the guy above you well.. I play since bwe and as I agree with you too I must say I find lots of the problems mentioned and not being adressed as disturbing. I do want things to get done and fixed, don’t get me wrong. As owner of cyber caffe for 14 years yes this is my first game. No need to be an ahole.
With this thread I just wanted to put the hate and loathing aside and say how much better this year is compared to 2013.
And nobody can deny that.

Etien.4601:

Vayne.8563:

I don’t know that I’d say this is a good year for Anet. I think it’s been a turbulent year. I think that there are plenty of unfair comments on the forums but plenty of fair ones too. The game has made progress…and yes I’ve liked both new zones, but there’s plenty that requires attention that hasn’t received attention.

In short, I’m still enjoying the game, but just as I don’t really kow tow to the doom and gloom crowd, I don’t think it’s really fair to say this has been a good year for Anet.

I’m hoping next year will be a better year though.

If Anet can avoid some of the stumbles it’s made this year, next year might well be better.

You know I agree with everything you say.
For the guy above you well.. I play since bwe and as I agree with you too I must say I find lots of the problems mentioned and not being adressed as disturbing. I do want things to get done and fixed, don’t get me wrong. As owner of cyber caffe for 14 years yes this is my first game. No need to be an ahole.
With this thread I just wanted to put the hate and loathing aside and say how much better this year is compared to 2013.
And nobody can deny that.

See, I’m not so sure that’s true, because there are people who preferred LS Season 1 to LS Season 2. They’re very different. Imagine how you’d feel if you preferred the first season to the second. Both have advantages.

And yes, I’m all for bringing some balance to the forums, so good job on that count at least. While many of the complaints are legitimate, having so many complaints in one place gives the wrong idea of the game to people who haven’t been involved.

To be sure some people just don’t like the game…but that doesn’t make it bad.

There were definitely many redeeming updates this year, but I really wouldn’t call this a good year. The things that I see day to day are: megaservers, NPE and dwindling guilds/friends lists. No, this isn’t everything – but they affect me much more than the occasional well-written piece of story or interesting new zone we’ve been getting. I like Dry Top, Silverwastes and a lot of the new story, I like it a lot! But if my friends have been scared away from the game… I have no one to enjoy them with.

I wait to see the work they have done this year and the year before to judge their work. If it’s an expansion, ls was a nice filler. If the stale world is all they can do, it’s a shame and bring great sadness.

Chameleon Dude.1564:

There were definitely many redeeming updates this year, but I really wouldn’t call this a good year. The things that I see day to day are: megaservers, NPE and dwindling guilds/friends lists. No, this isn’t everything – but they affect me much more than the occasional well-written piece of story or interesting new zone we’ve been getting. I like Dry Top, Silverwastes and a lot of the new story, I like it a lot! But if my friends have been scared away from the game… I have no one to enjoy them with.

I’m not so sure most people would consider the megaserver a negative thing. More than anything that’s probably saved the game for me. The megaserver was the highlight of my year, personally.

My personal opinion on the topic.

Permanent content for LS +1. Rework of TP +1. NPE/loot change (debatable but for me personally +1 thanks to them changing the Utility unlock lvl). Just 3 but I have a few more if anyone wants more just let me know. The year was full of controversy and good/bad changes could have been better but for me it was a good year. Now having said that I hope next year is perfect.

I really preferred the content and delivery of LS Season One, but I do like the new Silverwastes map.

For me? Both years had their high points…and some things I didn’t enjoy as much.

Still, I think ArenaNet is learning and trying to improve as time goes by. It’s difficult, though, to please everyone as we all have different preferences.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I really preferred the content and delivery of LS Season One, but I do like the new Silverwastes map.

For me? Both years had their high points…and some things I didn’t enjoy as much.

Still, I think ArenaNet is learning and trying to improve as time goes by. It’s difficult, though, to please everyone as we all have different preferences.

+1

I hope they are able to find a way to make LS1 re-playable. I know they probably can’t make an exact copy but some type of highlighted (?) version. I wasn’t able to experience LS1. (RL took priority)

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

Etien.4601:

Korossive.7085:

Etien.4601:

Just keep up the pace and good work like this into 2015

What pace? this?

… am I missing something?

Obviously. If you think inside the box like some of the forum posters here, I blieve you are missing the big picture. The additions we have this year are way way way better than last year’s. So for me and my guild mates it’s something.

He just posted the big picture; apparently you’re the one missing it.

Kamui.4038:

Etien.4601:

Korossive.7085:

Etien.4601:

Just keep up the pace and good work like this into 2015

What pace? this?

… am I missing something?

Obviously. If you think inside the box like some of the forum posters here, I blieve you are missing the big picture. The additions we have this year are way way way better than last year’s. So for me and my guild mates it’s something.

He just posted the big picture; apparently you’re the one missing it.

The big picture is it’s hard to make an MMO the accomodates everyone and Anet is always in the middle. If it’s too hard, X people get disenfranchised, if there’s not enough content with good enough rewards Y people get disenfranchised, if the farming isn’t up to par, Z people get disenfranchised.

You can’t really make a game that’s easy and challenging, with and without farmers. There are people who love story and people who don’t care about story at all. There are people who are totally into mechanics and people who could care less about mechanics. Anet isn’t going to keep everyone, because there are people that are very much in the their own niche.

But there are also a whole lot of people, like me, in the middle. I don’t mind hard content but I don’t want to do it all the time. I don’t really care too much if hard content is added. I want to play with people, and social and have fun. New zone is great for that. Drytop worked for that too.

I don’t need percusors every two minutes as long as I feel I’m making progress toward something. Collections and achievments work for that.

You might thing I’m a minority, but I’m not really that sure. I think a lot of people fall in between the huge vocal populations who want very specific stuff.

That, to me, is the big picture.

The small picture is fringe groups feeling disenfranchised with a game that couldn’t possibly be what they wanted without alienating a bunch of other people and groups.

Was the best six months ever followed by two good months, two months of seriously wondering what in the world is going on, and now what tentatively seems like will be two final months of awesomeness.

So I suppose arguably it was the best year ever for the game. But those two months of nothing but a middling feature pack (most of which was recycled from Chinese version and) might have been the darkest ever. And I hate to say this, but the fact that they actually removed popular chapters from the personal story arguably makes the feature pack a net negative. #WheresTonn

But past is past, and I hope that in future, things will be better. This last update leaves me eagerly looking forward to the rest of the year. And since I’ve never played Wintersday before, I’m looking forward to that too.

Team at ArenaNet seems really strong right now. And they seem incredibly confident that there’s bright stuff ahead, so I’m inclined to say next year might be the best yet.

fellyn.5083:

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

What positives?

KarlaGrey.5903:

fellyn.5083:

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

What positives?

Another constructive comment I see.

Do you really expect people to believe absolutely nothing positive has been done with this game at all period? Nothing?

This is precisely the reason why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. I’m in this thread saying this is a mixed year. I can only assume you’re not even playing the game.

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

fellyn.5083:

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

What positives?

Another constructive comment I see.

Do you really expect people to believe absolutely nothing positive has been done with this game at all period? Nothing?

This is precisely the reason why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. I’m in this thread saying this is a mixed year. I can only assume you’re not even playing the game.

It’s always fun to go back and look at negative people’s posts to see if they started out positive and how long it took for them to get that way. With all respect to KarlaGray, the reason I personally can’t take them seriously is because their negativity began from the first post they made… in November 2012.

I think this year they added more robust updates to the game than last year, things such as account wide dyes, wardrobe, a better storytelling system, better achievement rewards (the current collection to get the shiny shoulder armor is in my opinion a better way to get rewards than the mawdrey golddrain). Sure there are still issues such as a lack of WvW and SPvP updates. But I honestly don’t think that the pace at which we will get such updates is going to skyrocket. The thing is, stuff such as the wardrobe are huge for certain people and because they are out, they can now focus on another big requested feature. They are slowly working through a list of things so to speak, gradually improving the overall game. It takes time and perhaps more than some would like but that’s the way a business works.

wwwes.1398:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

fellyn.5083:

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

What positives?

Another constructive comment I see.

Do you really expect people to believe absolutely nothing positive has been done with this game at all period? Nothing?

This is precisely the reason why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. I’m in this thread saying this is a mixed year. I can only assume you’re not even playing the game.

It’s always fun to go back and look at negative people’s posts to see if they started out positive and how long it took for them to get that way. With all respect to KarlaGray, the reason I personally can’t take them seriously is because their negativity began from the first post they made… in November 2012.

I simply object to offensive one liners that add nothing to a conversation at all. They’re simply attempting to bait people.

I think people’s expectation are a bit high. About the 1 or 2 more patch(without counting wintersday).

We got like 1 more month before wintersday. I’m not sure if Anet will squeeze in an extra patch or 2.

If we go with the every two weeks schedule, we got 3 more releases coming, one of them will be Wintersday, so we have 2 more releases coming.

As to what we got so far in 2014:

Temporary Events:
Battle for Lion’s Arch
Battle on the Breachmaker
Twisted Marionette Weapon Test meta event concerning the Twisted Marionette

New World Bosses:
Triple Trouble

New story:
Living Story Season 2: Storyline

New zones:
The Silverwastes Map with all related Achievements, mini-bosses, events etc
Dry Top, a new zone that is expanding with new releases

New skins (not including gem store skins):
Carapace and Luminescent armor sets
Hexed Outfit
Ambrite Weapons
Mawdrey scavenger hunt backpiece

Stat updates:
Some new stat combinations
New sigils and runes added
Ferocity update

Account bound items:
Account-wide dye unlocks and wardrobe for armor and weapon skins
New Collections for the Wardrobe skins
Account-wide Miniatures, outfits and finishers
Account-bound world experience, legendary and ascended equipment
Account-bound and colored commander tags

PVP tracks including Halloween and Maguuma Wastes with PVE-like rewards
Standard enemy models and Glorious Reward Track in Structured PvP

Systems:
Trading Post redesign (gem exchange redesign two times)
Trait system redesign + 40 new traits
Megaservers

WvW Spring Tournament 2014
Edge of the Mists WvW Map

It hasn’t been a good year for me with the game personally, seeing my characters have things stripped away from them, and them being 9/10ths of my game enjoyment.

I’m just one person, and it doesn’t matter what I think. I’m sure they will do just fine ensuring they maintain money streams while making more healthy and appropriate adjustments.

wwwes.1398:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

fellyn.5083:

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

What positives?

Another constructive comment I see.

Do you really expect people to believe absolutely nothing positive has been done with this game at all period? Nothing?

This is precisely the reason why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. I’m in this thread saying this is a mixed year. I can only assume you’re not even playing the game.

It’s always fun to go back and look at negative people’s posts to see if they started out positive and how long it took for them to get that way. With all respect to KarlaGray, the reason I personally can’t take them seriously is because their negativity began from the first post they made… in November 2012.

And it’s always fun to see people deploy ad hominems to dodge such a simple straightforward question. Then again, not being able or choosing not to answer is an answer in itself.

On a side note, I actually, for some odd reason, did give a lot of feedback (typically by offering criticism and pointing out the bad/the missing features) and helped feedback gain visibility, but alas it was an effort in futility and frustration from the very beginning.

Vayne.8563:

I simply object to offensive one liners that add nothing to a conversation at all.

Given your track record so far, you have ’reck’d not your own rede’ or we would be seeing far less closures of threads both yours and from other posters.

KarlaGrey.5903:

wwwes.1398:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

fellyn.5083:

It’s easy for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. Therefor, not a good year for GW2.

What positives?

Another constructive comment I see.

Do you really expect people to believe absolutely nothing positive has been done with this game at all period? Nothing?

This is precisely the reason why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. I’m in this thread saying this is a mixed year. I can only assume you’re not even playing the game.

It’s always fun to go back and look at negative people’s posts to see if they started out positive and how long it took for them to get that way. With all respect to KarlaGray, the reason I personally can’t take them seriously is because their negativity began from the first post they made… in November 2012.

And it’s always fun to see people deploy ad hominems to dodge such a simple straightforward question. Then again, not being able or choosing not to answer is an answer in itself.

I don’t bother answering you, because you don’t listen. There’s things that are good mentioned in this thread already.

Edit: For example, in this thread I already said how much I like the megaserver.

Man those WvW updates this year.
EotM is not WvW btw, it’s frostgorge v2.0

I do agree PvE got some nice stuff that was necessary to keep the interest of players.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Man those WvW updates this year.
EotM is not WvW btw, it’s frostgorge v2.0

I do agree PvE got some nice stuff that was necessary to keep the interest of players.

Edge of the Mists is a WvW map that allows players to play in WvW avoiding the queues… or at least that’s what it was supposed to be. Unfortunately, yes it’s a farmers dream zone, lots of Champions means lots of loot, and the upleveling makes EotM the best place to level up alts (by following the blob and mindless farm)

EotM really needs some love/changes to make it a real WvW map because the map has some very nice mechanics, mobs have more interesting skills than anywhere else, bosses too, the map itself is beautiful and has some nice opportunities for combat. What kills the map is the endless stream of farmers, there making everything look stupidly easy and boring. That and the “avoid the enemy servers” mentality

Account Bound WvW ranks and the Spring Tournament were great WvW additions though. I didn’t even include the more recent WvW tournament because I found it to be completely pointless.

Vayne.8563:

There’s things that are good mentioned in this thread already.

Edit: For example, in this thread I already said how much I like the megaserver.

YOU might like it, but whether the positives actually outweight/justify the negatives such as the destruction of RPing, great hindrance to grouping up, facilitation of zerging etc. is a different question. The negative impacts aren’t as innocent and insignificant as many people like to pretend, but they ’don’t listen either’ until changes will be introduced that will greately affect their own playstyle.

I’ve spoted a lot of negative changes and changes for the sake of changes, and illusions of changes (toolkit fixes), but I honestly missed changes which, for the most part, would be regarded as positive.

Who knows, they might add a raid you will ‘feel forced to complete’, but will not be able to do so because reasons. Perhaps then you will see things in a different light (still rather unlikely, though).

KarlaGrey.5903:

Vayne.8563:

There’s things that are good mentioned in this thread already.

Edit: For example, in this thread I already said how much I like the megaserver.

YOU might like it, but whether the positives actually outweight/justify the negatives such as the destruction of RPing, great hindrance to grouping up, facilitation of zerging etc. is a different question. The negative impacts aren’t as innocent and insignificant as many people like to pretend, but they ’don’t listen either’ until changes will be introduced that will greately affect their own playstyle.

I’ve spoted a lot of negative changes and changes for the sake of changes, and illusions of changes (toolkit fixes), but I honestly missed changes which, for the most part, would be regarded as positive.

Who knows, they might add a raid you will ‘feel forced to complete’, but will not be able to do so because reasons. Perhaps then you will see things in a different light (still rather unlikely, though).

I don’t know. A whole lot of people seem to like the new zone. There are always, and I mean always, multiple overflows in EotM so someone likes it. The account wallet was almost universally liked. A lot of people liked Drytop. I’m pretty sure most people like the WvW specializations, the account bound points you get, the account bound commander tags and the colors.

There are some features without even trying.

You don’t like the game and haven’t posted anything constructive or positive since November of the year it launched. One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

See, the wallet is one solid positive change which was not implemented at anyone’s expense (to my knowledge, at least).
New maps are also positive, yes, but seemingly only as long as they aren’t pvp maps (see the hate against Skyhammer for reference).
WvW hasn’t really received much love outside some bedcrumbs, and the colour option of commander tags, but I suppose the acc-bound change was also good (though only really affects a certain portion of players).

But if the changes which are, for the most part, universally regarded as good (e.g. the opposite of how the change to gem purchasing was universally hated) only amount to a handful, I’d probably be a tid bit worried, had I still played.

And, of course, I also gotta stir the pot a bit, so people don’t forget the pestering issues which might very well sink into oblivion unresolved due to the current festive mood.
Let’s see first if they wil actually follow up – in full – on their promise regarding the gem purchase and make it customizable both ways.

KarlaGrey.5903:

See, the wallet is one solid positive change which was not implemented at anyone’s expense (to my knowledge, at least).
New maps are also positive, yes, but seemingly only as long as they aren’t pvp maps (see the hate against Skyhammer for reference).
WvW hasn’t really received much love outside some bedcrumbs, and the colour option of commander tags, but I suppose the acc-bound change was also good (though only really affects a certain portion of players).

But if the changes which are, for the most part, universally regarded as good (e.g. the opposite of how the change to gem purchasing was universally hated) only amount to a handful, I’d probably be a tid bit worried, had I still played.

And, of course, I also gotta stir the pot a bit, so people don’t forget the pestering issues which might very well sink into oblivion unresolved due to the current festive mood.
Let’s see first if they wil actually follow up – in full – on their promise regarding the gem purchase and make it customizable both ways.

In case you haven’t noticed, the response to this patch has been overwhelmingly positive. The negatives have been mostly minor.

And yes, even the wallet people complained about…not many, but some.

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

…

One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

Stirred > stagnant.
Stagnant pots rot.

Stagnant feedback means we approve the LS excuse to a neglected world, and not all of us do. The link I posted, sheds ArenaNet-ignored light on world neglect, and not a single “we are/aren’t aware of any of these” affirmation could you find there. Some posters gave up on this conduct, others still try to jump the hoops.

Korossive.7085:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

…

One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

Stirred > stagnant.
Stagnant pots rot.

Stagnant feedback means we approve the LS excuse to a neglected world, and not all of us do. The link I posted, sheds ArenaNet-ignored light on world neglect, and not a single “we are/aren’t aware of any of these” affirmation could you find there. Some posters gave up on this conduct, others still try to jump the hoops.

Stirring the pot is an expression. Feel free to look it up.

Taking expressions literally doesn’t help anyone.

Vayne.8563:

Korossive.7085:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

…

One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

Stirred > stagnant.
Stagnant pots rot.

Stagnant feedback means we approve the LS excuse to a neglected world, and not all of us do. The link I posted, sheds ArenaNet-ignored light on world neglect, and not a single “we are/aren’t aware of any of these” affirmation could you find there. Some posters gave up on this conduct, others still try to jump the hoops.

Stirring the pot is an expression. Feel free to look it up.

Taking expressions literally doesn’t help anyone.

Oh but the phrase was successful on both fronts.

Have you read the paragraph?

Hm good year? Maybe for this company, most certainly not for many players.

Korossive.7085:

Vayne.8563:

Korossive.7085:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

…

One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

Stirred > stagnant.
Stagnant pots rot.

Stagnant feedback means we approve the LS excuse to a neglected world, and not all of us do. The link I posted, sheds ArenaNet-ignored light on world neglect, and not a single “we are/aren’t aware of any of these” affirmation could you find there. Some posters gave up on this conduct, others still try to jump the hoops.

Stirring the pot is an expression. Feel free to look it up.

Taking expressions literally doesn’t help anyone.

Oh but the phrase was successful on both fronts.

Have you read the paragraph?

Sure, but stirring the pot means instigating. There’s nothing positive associated with it, no matter how much you’d like to associate that stuff with it.

There’s constructive criticism, and then there are people who either want to troll or they want to see the game fail because they feel disenfranchised or because they like another game.

It’s not an all or nothing thing. There are plenty of complaints I don’t comment on at all. And then there are one line sarcastic pot shots that add nothing to the conversation.

Vayne.8563:

I don’t know that I’d say this is a good year for Anet. I think it’s been a turbulent year. I think that there are plenty of unfair comments on the forums but plenty of fair ones too. The game has made progress…and yes I’ve liked both new zones, but there’s plenty that requires attention that hasn’t received attention.

In short, I’m still enjoying the game, but just as I don’t really kow tow to the doom and gloom crowd, I don’t think it’s really fair to say this has been a good year for Anet.

I’m hoping next year will be a better year though.

If Anet can avoid some of the stumbles it’s made this year, next year might well be better.

Sometimes it’s nice to read your posts, Vayne.

I don’t know if the wallet was just being used as an example or what, but the wallet came out in August of 2013, so it’s not part of this year’s list of accomplishments.

Etien.4601:

Vayne.8563:

I don’t know that I’d say this is a good year for Anet. I think it’s been a turbulent year. I think that there are plenty of unfair comments on the forums but plenty of fair ones too. The game has made progress…and yes I’ve liked both new zones, but there’s plenty that requires attention that hasn’t received attention.

In short, I’m still enjoying the game, but just as I don’t really kow tow to the doom and gloom crowd, I don’t think it’s really fair to say this has been a good year for Anet.

I’m hoping next year will be a better year though.

If Anet can avoid some of the stumbles it’s made this year, next year might well be better.

With this thread I just wanted to put the hate and loathing aside and say how much better this year is compared to 2013.
And nobody can deny that.

I absolutely can deny that. I’d trade everything I liked about this year’s updates if it meant I could enjoy leveling my alts again. And since Dry Top and Silverwastes are chugging along at about 1fps for some bizarre reason, I can’t even count that content as enjoyable, personally.

2013 was MUCH more enjoyable for me. Just because it wasn’t more enjoyable to you doesn’t make your opinion an undeniable truth.

I repeat: the megaserver population densities destroyed most of the open world for me. Dig up the old megaserver thread. I wasn’t the only one. A bunch of my friends just left instead of forcing themselves to take part in the new megafarm.

Vayne.8563:

Korossive.7085:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

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One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

Stirred > stagnant.
Stagnant pots rot.

Stagnant feedback means we approve the LS excuse to a neglected world, and not all of us do. The link I posted, sheds ArenaNet-ignored light on world neglect, and not a single “we are/aren’t aware of any of these” affirmation could you find there. Some posters gave up on this conduct, others still try to jump the hoops.

Stirring the pot is an expression. Feel free to look it up.

Taking expressions literally doesn’t help anyone.

Haha, you know quite well what he meant, no need to pretend otherwise.

But yea, as people have said times and again, this is why one cannot hold a normal conversation, much less an argumented discussion with you, because it is not something you’d be even remotely interested in.

Also, oopsie on the wallet thing, I figured it had to be recent, given how much mention it’d get whenever people asked about recent positive changes.
Guess the picture might be somewhat skewed due to the few and far inbetween syndrome~

KarlaGrey.5903:

Vayne.8563:

Korossive.7085:

Vayne.8563:

KarlaGrey.5903:

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One might think the only reason you came here was to stir the pot.

Stirred > stagnant.
Stagnant pots rot.

Stagnant feedback means we approve the LS excuse to a neglected world, and not all of us do. The link I posted, sheds ArenaNet-ignored light on world neglect, and not a single “we are/aren’t aware of any of these” affirmation could you find there. Some posters gave up on this conduct, others still try to jump the hoops.

Stirring the pot is an expression. Feel free to look it up.

Taking expressions literally doesn’t help anyone.

Haha, you know quite well what he meant, no need to pretend otherwise.

But yea, as people have said times and again, this is why one cannot hold a normal conversation, much less an argumented discussion with you, because it is not something you’d be even remotely interested in.

Also, oopsie on the wallet thing, I figured it had to be recent, given how much mention it’d get whenever people asked about recent positive changes.
Guess the picture might be somewhat skewed due to the few and far inbetween syndrome~

It works both ways. I knew what he meant…but he also knew what I meant and chose to ignore that. How come you’re not admonishing him? Biased much?

There are plenty of recent positive changes too, as I said the last update has gotten a lot of positive attention and that’s as recent as you get. And a lot of people loved the wardrobe, which is indeed this year.

But you know, it doesn’t matter what anyone says to you because you’ve been banging the same drum for two years.

Obviously you can’t find another game to play that’s more entertaining than these forums. Probably says something about the industry as a whole.

It still is a good year.

Vayne.8563:

But you know, it doesn’t matter what anyone says to you because you’ve been banging the same drum for two years.

Obviously you can’t find another game to play that’s more entertaining than these forums. Probably says something about the industry as a whole.

Nothing really changed in those 2 years, however, so why would one suddenly have to change their approach?

Worry not, however, for I have a pretty good game to play during my free time, and I’m sure you must have noticed I only really post during week days, mostly also because it helps me work on my English skillz (9) title!

On a side note, I can agree with the industry comment to an extent, but alas GW2 is just as guilty in that regard, and I came to the realization that the game can only really be appreciated by those who weren’t magnificently ‘spoiled’ by the original.

KarlaGrey.5903:

Vayne.8563:

But you know, it doesn’t matter what anyone says to you because you’ve been banging the same drum for two years.

Obviously you can’t find another game to play that’s more entertaining than these forums. Probably says something about the industry as a whole.

Nothing really changed in those 2 years, however, so why would one suddenly have to change their approach?

Worry not, however, for I have a pretty good game to play during my free time, and I’m sure you must have noticed I only really post during week days, mostly also because it helps me work on my English skillz (9) title!

On a side note, I can agree with the industry comment to an extent, but alas GW2 is just as guilty in that regard, and I came to the realization that the game can only really be appreciated by those who weren’t magnificently ‘spoiled’ by the original.

I played the original too, and I was “spoiled” by it. I really enjoyed it. This is a different game. I knew it would be a different game coming in, because I know two things.

You can’t make an open world MMO the same was a lobby game, and two, you can’t make a game that appeals to a broader base of people without making compromises. I expected that before hand.

I’ve played a lot of MMOs and the more streamlined they become, the more people tend to be interested in them.

And STILL this game does a lot of things better than the rest of the industry, something you neglect to take into account.

You’re mad that vertical progression was introduced two years ago…but since then, more vertical progression hasn’t been introduced.

The whole slippery slope, gear grind doom and gloom speak from back then did not eventuate. Most MMOs have had four tiers of gear in this time frame.

Not quite – GW in its heydays was ALL about the pvp, with the pve designed in a way to facilitate access and minimize grind that all other games required at the time (in particular, the req to gear grind to stay viable). However given its overall great design, the pve too was easily able to hold its own and provided one with plenty of things to go for. Granted, there were issues (some of which were addressed by the pve-pvp skill split and level-fielding all equip in pvp), but they were handled in a manner much better than here. And much faster, too.

The game had captured that ‘it’, but alas the continuation gave in to mediocrity and went the WoW-way.

Like I had said in the past, catering to the lowest common denominator is the lazy man’s way to game design. While GW was special and genuinely showed how much true innovation and thinking out of the box can do, GW2 just opted to be another of those generic grindy games that leave no real lasting impression on a player which exprienced that ‘it’. It’s just another pve game.

KarlaGrey.5903:

Not quite – GW in its heydays was ALL about the pvp, with the pve designed in a way to facilitate access and minimize grind that all other games required at the time (in particular, the req to gear grind to stay viable). However given its overall great design, the pve too was easily able to hold its own and provided one with plenty of things to go for. Granted, there were issues (some of which were addressed by the pve-pvp skill split and level-fielding all equip in pvp), but they were handled in a manner much better than here. And much faster, too.

The game had captured that ‘it’, but alas the continuation gave in to mediocrity and went the WoW-way.

Like I had said in the past, catering to the lowest common denominator is the lazy man’s way to game design. While GW was special and genuinely showed how much true innovation and thinking out of the box can do, GW2 just opted to be another of those generic grindy games that leave no real lasting impression on a player which exprienced that ‘it’. It’s just another pve game.

Just because you say something, doesn’t make it truth. Sure your opinion is that catering to the lowest common denominator is lazy. So it’s lazy to want to increase your market share I guess. So noted.

Guild Wars 1 was more of a niche game than Guild Wars 2, for a lot of reasons. Anet and NcSoft wanted to improve their business. So they appealed to a wider audience. I don’t see anything lazy about it.

And there are other factors. You can’t introduce an MMO that’s completely different on all fronts, because the public won’t accept it. You have to pick and choose what you’re keeping and what you’re leaving behind. Anet discussed not having levels at all and they discussed having infinite levels.

In the end, that might have been better, but there’s no real way to know. It’s very easy to second guess stuff when it’s not your investment on the line.

But I don’t actually think there’s anything lazy about this game. I think you have unrealistic expectations, and since you feel burned, you want to attack the game at every opportunity.

Which isn’t particularly hurting the game. The game is doing fine. It will continue to do fine.

Innovation is all well and nice, but it also has to be tempered, because people won’t jump from one format to another….they need stepping stones. WoW’s success insured the next game to affect the industry on a larger scale was going to be something that was only a half step, or maybe a quarter step.

I think Anet’s design decisions were deliberate, trying to figure out just how much innovation the average MMO player could deal with.

It was a good year! I had a blast in this game up until Gemgate (which is still happening and not fixed btw) and then the whole gambling fiasco on the Halloween 2014 weapon skins.

ANet has done a FABULOUS job…at giving me a new found appreciation for other MMOs and development companies that i just never had before. So, thanks!!!