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There are various item’s that have been removed from the game that can still be found on the trading post. (ex. training manuals)

Is it at all possible to remove these items completely? They are being sold for more than just copper or silver, but for gold. People, such as myself, I admit it, who are not aware that these items are now useless, are spending their hard earned gold on them and getting snookered by the sellers.

Please look into this!

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There are various item’s that have been removed from the game that can still be found on the trading post. (ex. training manuals)

Is it at all possible to remove these items completely? They are being sold for more than just copper or silver, but for gold. People, such as myself, I admit it, who are not aware that these items are now useless, are spending their hard earned gold on them and getting snookered by the sellers.

Please look into this!

They are an important gold sink.

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abbetd.5912

There are various item’s that have been removed from the game that can still be found on the trading post. (ex. training manuals)

Is it at all possible to remove these items completely? They are being sold for more than just copper or silver, but for gold. People, such as myself, I admit it, who are not aware that these items are now useless, are spending their hard earned gold on them and getting snookered by the sellers.

Please look into this!

Don’t feel bad. I’ve been holding on to an Instant Trait Reset in my bank for months now.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

That’s the thing. The trading post is ruled by supply and demand.

Demand for items no longer being created is high leads to eventual low supply. When demand is high and supply is low, prices are higher.

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Otokomae.9356

There are various item’s that have been removed from the game that can still be found on the trading post. (ex. training manuals)

Is it at all possible to remove these items completely? They are being sold for more than just copper or silver, but for gold. People, such as myself, I admit it, who are not aware that these items are now useless, are spending their hard earned gold on them and getting snookered by the sellers.

Please look into this!

So… you bought a useless item, from an anonymous source, despite the fact that you had no idea what the item really was or that it was now useless, and without taking 30 seconds to look it up on GW2Wiki, or to simply ask any random person you see in Guild Chat or even Map Chat what this very expensive mystery item is… and now you want Anet to fix it for you.

Please stay away from Ebay. And Craigslist. In fact, I’m going to save you a lot of trouble here and just tell you that the internet in general is not for you, I’m afraid. I would advise you to avoid it entirely.

This is how innocent Mogwai end up in the wrong hands, only spawn an army Gremlins that destroy the whole town…

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Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

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punkinkatt.4823

There are various item’s that have been removed from the game that can still be found on the trading post. (ex. training manuals)

Is it at all possible to remove these items completely? They are being sold for more than just copper or silver, but for gold. People, such as myself, I admit it, who are not aware that these items are now useless, are spending their hard earned gold on them and getting snookered by the sellers.

Please look into this!

So… you bought a useless item, from an anonymous source, despite the fact that you had no idea what the item really was or that it was now useless, and without taking 30 seconds to look it up on GW2Wiki, or to simply ask any random person you see in Guild Chat or even Map Chat what this very expensive mystery item is… and now you want Anet to fix it for you.

Please stay away from Ebay. And Craigslist. In fact, I’m going to save you a lot of trouble here and just tell you that the internet in general is not for you, I’m afraid. I would advise you to avoid it entirely.

This is how innocent Mogwai end up in the wrong hands, only spawn an army Gremlins that destroy the whole town…

FYI, I know what the manuals were once for, I only didn’t know that they had been removed from the game.

You are an incredibly rude and snotty person. It’s you who should probably stay away from the internet. At least any social aspect of it. You have no idea how to treat people decently. I have nothing more to say to you.

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punkinkatt.4823

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

Not only have they been removed from the game but they are now useless. There are some weapon skins that have been removed from the game from an acquisition PoV but they aren’t useless (depending on your opinion of ticket skins).

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Posted by: punkinkatt.4823

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Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

I don’t think you understand what I am saying. The prices aren’t the issue. These are items that have been removed from the game by Anet, but there are still hundreds of them on the TP and they are useless. They no longer perform their function, you cannot use them, no matter how many times you double click them. They do nothing.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

I don’t think you understand what I am saying. The prices aren’t the issue. These are items that have been removed from the game by Anet, but there are still hundreds of them on the TP and they are useless. They no longer perform their function, you cannot use them, no matter how many times you double click them. They do nothing.

Ah, ok. Wasn’t clear in your original post.

They likely don’t have the ability to remove them from the Trading Post without kicking every other item off as well. Which include thousands of items from players not currently playing. Meaning if they get kicked off the trading post, they won’t be put back up. And I’d honestly put more value in keeping those useful items from now inactive players up on the trading post than removing the useless items.

At least not easily. The only way they’d be able to do it is to have someone be given the gold to buy up every single item that’s currently useless. And that would also take time. Time that’s probably better spent on other things.

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

tigirius.9014

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

Ahem cough a “free” market would exist in a game without limitations on loot. Free is free therefore nerfing farming locations instead of allowing the so called free market to handle the influx of materials naturally isn’t free. It’s regulated. And don’t get me started on currency coming into the market from an endless outside source aka gem to gold conversion.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

Ahem cough a “free” market would exist in a game without limitations on loot. Free is free therefore nerfing farming locations instead of allowing the so called free market to handle the influx of materials naturally isn’t free. It’s regulated. And don’t get me started on currency coming into the market from an endless outside source aka gem to gold conversion.

I said the Trading Post is a free market with flooring on prices. Not the game’s economy.

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Posted by: punkinkatt.4823

punkinkatt.4823

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

I don’t think you understand what I am saying. The prices aren’t the issue. These are items that have been removed from the game by Anet, but there are still hundreds of them on the TP and they are useless. They no longer perform their function, you cannot use them, no matter how many times you double click them. They do nothing.

Ah, ok. Wasn’t clear in your original post.

They likely don’t have the ability to remove them from the Trading Post without kicking every other item off as well. Which include thousands of items from players not currently playing. Meaning if they get kicked off the trading post, they won’t be put back up. And I’d honestly put more value in keeping those useful items from now inactive players up on the trading post than removing the useless items.

At least not easily. The only way they’d be able to do it is to have someone be given the gold to buy up every single item that’s currently useless. And that would also take time. Time that’s probably better spent on other things.

It would be as easy as removing the files/code that create those items from their servers and the game clients (via update). Poof! No more useless items.

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Posted by: Victuswolf.5286

Victuswolf.5286

Item’s that are useless should be removed so new players don’t end up buying them by accident and souring their gaming experience.

The fact is this is a GAME and the developers have gone out of their way to help new players avoid spending golds/silver on items they can’t use by providing thousands of in game descriptions to tell you exactly what a item is and when you sometimes try buy a item you can’t use you get a warning message on your screen.

The devs clearly don’t want new players or even old making mistakes on what they buy. They have gone out of the way to make sure that’s the case. All completely useless items which have been removed from the game should be removed from the trading post and all players that way in years to come we don’t have a trading post filled with thousands of items that are useless. Do we really want a Trading post filled with useless junk that increases every year?

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At first I was surprised at the lack of research that must have gone into this. Yes, I see that you say you did the research, however the search for training manual on the wiki clearly states the item has been removed from the game, furthermore, you can ALREADY place all your trait points so I don’t even see what you think this would do. It’s not necessarily unuseable, just that what you WOULD use for is no longer needed (unlocking the higher level trait levels).

Then, I noticed that you’re the same person who managed to analyze that one of the most active and successful WvW servers was a dead server all in the span of two hours. So I understand now.

Anyway, I can see your argument for removing these items and it does make sense. However the other side of it that there ARE people who have paid for these items and still like to link them in chat (to the point of purposefully wasting valuable item space) put value on them. There are people who actually still purposefully buy this,;I’d suggest on top of doing your research, if you aren’t clear what this item would do for you…You should ask map chat in LA or something with people who know exactly what those old items are.

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Posted by: RollingBob.8502

RollingBob.8502

I don’t know, I have to wonder who has been buying some of the things I’ve been selling. I know they are worthless or at best worth very little, and yet I throw them out there matching the already inflated low price and they sell out leaving a higher more inflated base price. And it happens at a specific time in the week. This has been going on for a few weeks. I would not be surprised if it was some bot gone rogue. Which is cool by me. Thanks for the loot!

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

There are various item’s that have been removed from the game that can still be found on the trading post. (ex. training manuals)

Is it at all possible to remove these items completely? They are being sold for more than just copper or silver, but for gold. People, such as myself, I admit it, who are not aware that these items are now useless, are spending their hard earned gold on them and getting snookered by the sellers.

Please look into this!

They are an important gold sink.

I can see how they were an important gold sink, but how so now?

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

I don’t think you understand what I am saying. The prices aren’t the issue. These are items that have been removed from the game by Anet, but there are still hundreds of them on the TP and they are useless. They no longer perform their function, you cannot use them, no matter how many times you double click them. They do nothing.

Ah, ok. Wasn’t clear in your original post.

They likely don’t have the ability to remove them from the Trading Post without kicking every other item off as well. Which include thousands of items from players not currently playing. Meaning if they get kicked off the trading post, they won’t be put back up. And I’d honestly put more value in keeping those useful items from now inactive players up on the trading post than removing the useless items.

At least not easily. The only way they’d be able to do it is to have someone be given the gold to buy up every single item that’s currently useless. And that would also take time. Time that’s probably better spent on other things.

I am reading the original post, and I am trying to figure out how you understood it as something completely different then what he stated. It is like he said ’I like Apples", and your response to that was, “You are wrong, apples are actually red”

Anyways, I agree, they need to get rid of that stuff from the TP. I work with databases, and they can delete or make invisible from showing up on the TP, without effecting everything else on the TP.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

I don’t think you understand what I am saying. The prices aren’t the issue. These are items that have been removed from the game by Anet, but there are still hundreds of them on the TP and they are useless. They no longer perform their function, you cannot use them, no matter how many times you double click them. They do nothing.

Ah, ok. Wasn’t clear in your original post.

They likely don’t have the ability to remove them from the Trading Post without kicking every other item off as well. Which include thousands of items from players not currently playing. Meaning if they get kicked off the trading post, they won’t be put back up. And I’d honestly put more value in keeping those useful items from now inactive players up on the trading post than removing the useless items.

At least not easily. The only way they’d be able to do it is to have someone be given the gold to buy up every single item that’s currently useless. And that would also take time. Time that’s probably better spent on other things.

I am reading the original post, and I am trying to figure out how you understood it as something completely different then what he stated. It is like he said ’I like Apples", and your response to that was, “You are wrong, apples are actually red”

Anyways, I agree, they need to get rid of that stuff from the TP. I work with databases, and they can delete or make invisible from showing up on the TP, without effecting everything else on the TP.

Different people interpret things differently.

And your databases may be coded differently than the ones controlling the Trading Post.

Unless you’ve seen the code for the Trading Post, you can’t say what they can and can’t do.

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Posted by: punkinkatt.4823

punkinkatt.4823

At first I was surprised at the lack of research that must have gone into this. Yes, I see that you say you did the research, however the search for training manual on the wiki clearly states the item has been removed from the game, furthermore, you can ALREADY place all your trait points so I don’t even see what you think this would do. It’s not necessarily unuseable, just that what you WOULD use for is no longer needed (unlocking the higher level trait levels).

Then, I noticed that you’re the same person who managed to analyze that one of the most active and successful WvW servers was a dead server all in the span of two hours. So I understand now.

Anyway, I can see your argument for removing these items and it does make sense. However the other side of it that there ARE people who have paid for these items and still like to link them in chat (to the point of purposefully wasting valuable item space) put value on them. There are people who actually still purposefully buy this,;I’d suggest on top of doing your research, if you aren’t clear what this item would do for you…You should ask map chat in LA or something with people who know exactly what those old items are.

Do you refer to the wiki every single time you use the trading post?

Neither do I.

And most people, including myself, probably don’t expect to find defunct items on the trading post in the first place. They should have been removed completely from the game. Not just made non-functional.

And the manuals I am talking about don’t reset trait points, they ‘were’ used to increase the number of points that could be used in each line.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

At first I was surprised at the lack of research that must have gone into this. Yes, I see that you say you did the research, however the search for training manual on the wiki clearly states the item has been removed from the game, furthermore, you can ALREADY place all your trait points so I don’t even see what you think this would do. It’s not necessarily unuseable, just that what you WOULD use for is no longer needed (unlocking the higher level trait levels).

Then, I noticed that you’re the same person who managed to analyze that one of the most active and successful WvW servers was a dead server all in the span of two hours. So I understand now.

Anyway, I can see your argument for removing these items and it does make sense. However the other side of it that there ARE people who have paid for these items and still like to link them in chat (to the point of purposefully wasting valuable item space) put value on them. There are people who actually still purposefully buy this,;I’d suggest on top of doing your research, if you aren’t clear what this item would do for you…You should ask map chat in LA or something with people who know exactly what those old items are.

Do you refer to the wiki every single time you use the trading post?

Neither do I.

And most people, including myself, probably don’t expect to find defunct items on the trading post in the first place. They should have been removed completely from the game. Not just made non-functional.

And the manuals I am talking about don’t reset trait points, they ‘were’ used to increase the number of points that could be used in each line.

They would also reset your traits when used. It’s how people changed their builds. You had to pay for a manual every time you wanted to change builds.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Do you refer to the wiki every single time you use the trading post?

Neither do I.

And most people, including myself, probably don’t expect to find defunct items on the trading post in the first place. They should have been removed completely from the game. Not just made non-functional.

And the manuals I am talking about don’t reset trait points, they ‘were’ used to increase the number of points that could be used in each line.

I consult the wiki or at least ask in map/guild chat if I’m looking at an item I’m not sure about. I also consult the wiki/other players when I notice an item that used to be needed is no longer available at the vendors that used to sell them.

I don’t disagree that items like that should just be removed from the game, including the trading post. But I personally also triple check things before I buy them.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

They would also reset your traits when used. It’s how people changed their builds. You had to pay for a manual every time you wanted to change builds.

No you didn’t. You bought the manuals (once per character) to unlock the Adept, Master, and Grandmaster trait sections. You paid the trainers a few silver to reset your traits, so you could change builds.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

They would also reset your traits when used. It’s how people changed their builds. You had to pay for a manual every time you wanted to change builds.

No you didn’t. You bought the manuals (once per character) to unlock the Adept, Master, and Grandmaster trait sections. You paid the trainers a few silver to reset your traits, so you could change builds.

Ah, ok. I only ever used them once when I unlocked each tier. I just know they themselves reset the traits when used.

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Posted by: punkinkatt.4823

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I didn’t post this thread so that people could chastise me or insinuate that I am negligent or stupid for buying something I wasn’t aware had been removed from the game. I’m human! A real live one, behind this text and my character. I make uninformed choices sometimes… we all do.

I posted with the suggestion or request that such items be removed from the game completely.

I am, IN NO WAY, going to miss the gold I spent on them. It can be made back by selling crafting materials. But it is hard earned… it takes time to farm up enough materials to be substantially profitable.

I just don’t want to see any other less informed people (new players, for instance) misled by these items. If you all have a problem with that, then that is exactly what it is… your problem.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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Items with no use or that become account-bound listed in the trading should get their entries canceled, and both fees and items refunded, even if the account doesn’t log in.

If they do log in, they’ll simply find the stuff in their inbox.

SUGGEST-A-TRON says:
PAY—ONCE—UNLOCKS—ARE—ALWAYS—BETTER.
No exceptions!

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

I agree that the manuals should go. Perhaps a GM could use GM power, sanctioned, to simply buy them up? Unless that would inject too much gold into the economy or something, assuming those who put them up are still extant.

Though that could lead to people who’ve hoarded such things tossing them on the TP to encourage dev buyouts, so it might not be a good plan.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

They could just refund the buy/sell orders. Buyers would get their gold back, sellers would get the item back. At that point, sellers could just vendor them for a reasonable price, or keep them as warm, fuzzy reminders of the old trait system.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Honestly, I would like it if they could somehow implement a time limit on buy orders and sell listings. After insert number of months, the items are automatically unlisted. On top of taking down the no-longer-useable items.

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Posted by: abbetd.5912

abbetd.5912

Ahem cough a “free” market would exist in a game without limitations on loot. Free is free therefore nerfing farming locations instead of allowing the so called free market to handle the influx of materials naturally isn’t free. It’s regulated. And don’t get me started on currency coming into the market from an endless outside source aka gem to gold conversion.

Actually, as I understand it, the gem to gold conversion is not an outside source of gold. The gold comes from players who are buying gems from pleasures who are selling gems, which is why the price fluctuates. I believe Anet even takes a cut off the gold, making it a gold sink.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Problem is a lot of those items up there, are most likely items left by players who no longer play the game. See unlike other games the items in the trading post don’t expire and they never go away unless the person who puts them up finally decides to take them down.

So the problem is not the long lost items. It’s the stagnant accounts that put the items up to begin with.

I agree. But there are hundreds of them on the TP. ANet needs remove them.

ANet doesn’t need to remove them. Trading post is free market with a floor. The floor being items can’t be priced at lower than vendor price.

We players determine the prices of things on the Trading Post. If you aren’t willing to pay X for an item, then don’t. Wait for it to come down, if it does at all.

If ANet had wanted price ceilings on items, they would have put them in.

Ahem cough a “free” market would exist in a game without limitations on loot. Free is free therefore nerfing farming locations instead of allowing the so called free market to handle the influx of materials naturally isn’t free. It’s regulated. And don’t get me started on currency coming into the market from an endless outside source aka gem to gold conversion.

The Gem to Gold conversion is actually a gold sink, it does not introduce gold into the economy at all. When players use Gold to buy Gems, that gold minus about 33% goes into the pot for people to get gold with Gems. Currently, to get 11 Gems with Gold, it costs 1 Gold 53 silver 40 copper, to buy 1 gold it costs 11 Gems. So when these exchanges happen, the system is taking out 53 Silver 40 copper from the economy, and moving that remaining gold from one player to another player.

The system works great since it does not unbalance the economy at all, because it literally does not add more gold to the economy, it in fact takes gold out of the economy, which is good.

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Posted by: Sane.5072

Sane.5072

I didn’t post this thread so that people could chastise me or insinuate that I am negligent or stupid for buying something I wasn’t aware had been removed from the game. I’m human! A real live one, behind this text and my character. I make uninformed choices sometimes… we all do.

I posted with the suggestion or request that such items be removed from the game completely.

I am, IN NO WAY, going to miss the gold I spent on them. It can be made back by selling crafting materials. But it is hard earned… it takes time to farm up enough materials to be substantially profitable.

I just don’t want to see any other less informed people (new players, for instance) misled by these items. If you all have a problem with that, then that is exactly what it is… your problem.

So what about the people who have already paid for those items and want to keep them for linking purposes? Or the ones who want to sell them to such people? They still have worth even if it’s not a functional one…. How is it their problem? Personally, I bought one for an extra toon just to link it. You admit it was a mistake yet say it’s someone else’s problem even though they made no mistake yet want to sell that item…. You seem extremely determined to never take responsibility for your own mistakes despite admitting that you made them.

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Posted by: punkinkatt.4823

punkinkatt.4823

I didn’t post this thread so that people could chastise me or insinuate that I am negligent or stupid for buying something I wasn’t aware had been removed from the game. I’m human! A real live one, behind this text and my character. I make uninformed choices sometimes… we all do.

I posted with the suggestion or request that such items be removed from the game completely.

I am, IN NO WAY, going to miss the gold I spent on them. It can be made back by selling crafting materials. But it is hard earned… it takes time to farm up enough materials to be substantially profitable.

I just don’t want to see any other less informed people (new players, for instance) misled by these items. If you all have a problem with that, then that is exactly what it is… your problem.

So what about the people who have already paid for those items and want to keep them for linking purposes? Or the ones who want to sell them to such people? They still have worth even if it’s not a functional one…. How is it their problem? Personally, I bought one for an extra toon just to link it. You admit it was a mistake yet say it’s someone else’s problem even though they made no mistake yet want to sell that item…. You seem extremely determined to never take responsibility for your own mistakes despite admitting that you made them.

I didn’t say that my mistake was someone else’s problem. I said if anyone has a problem with my suggestion that such items be removed, then… to clarify… their problem with my suggestion is their problem. Not mine. There is no need too be ugly to me for making a simple suggestion. But that is what some of the people in this thread are being, including you. While others agree with me.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

Oddly there is a niche, all be it very small I am guessing, of people that collect such items that are no longer in game. I’ve seen a few people talking about collecting those kind of items over the last few years.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

items /are/ removed from the TP. one I run into often is Sentinel’s Rogue Pants of Hoelbrak
the only way to actually see it is it you click on the gear and uncheck ‘only show available’
I believe they get removed when there are no sell listings for a long period of time.
training manuals still have sell listings. you could change that if you really wanted to remove them