Guild Wars 2

Is it just my perception or has GW2 changed into a jumping game?

Lets get it out there so folks can get the flaming out of the way: I don’t like jumping. I can do, but I don’t like it.

I am running around at the minute trying to complete some “nearly complete” achievements and it just seems to involve jumping at every turn.

Anyway: SAB. Jump Jump Jump. Do it or lose out on the achievements. Got 8 achievements and got bored of jumping.

Anyway, Dive Master. oh look. Some of the goggles are at the end of jumping puzzles. Not So Secret Jumping Puzzle, 2 dives in Hidden Garden jumping puzzle. Do it or lose out on the achievements.

Well, I say stuff it. I spent ages trying to get the past Not So Secret and gave up. Kept failing at the same spot. And it wasn’t just me, 5 other players had the same difficulty. The only thing that made it slightly tolerable was the Level 10 thief trying it. If anything broke wind in his direction, he died.

Explorer achievements: Jumping litters the achievements

Now, I know folks enjoy the jumping, but for those that don’t like it (and there are a LOT). being forced to do it or miss out just annoys. It feels like I am playing Prince of Persia half the time. And repeating the same frustration dozens of times isn’t what I would call fun.

So, If anyone knows a game that would be like Scarlets invasions all the time, gimme a shout. Leaving GW after 7 years is figuring more and more in my thinking.

Maybe my perception is skewed because pretty much everything left on my achievements panel is jumping but its sucks.

This wasn’t supposed to be a ranty post. Just an observation. And a recommendation to Anet to take on board that some players simply don’t like jumping, so don’t force content on them.

And for those that can’t help themselves from flaming….I care not :-)

They aren’t forcing you to do Super Adventure Box….there is a plethora of things you can do….there are more tabs of achievements than just “Explorer” tab

this living story update just isn’t for you….what about the guy that likes jumping and hates zerg farming….last month he would have been you on these forums complaining…asking for less zerging….

good news? you only have about a week and two days until the next update, so go explore other games, level an alt, or get those other achieves!

But Arenanet isn’t forcing you to get achievements. I mean, if you want to be a completionist in a game that appeals to a broad audience you ought to expect that some achievements will not appeal to you.

Should JPs give nothing just because you don’t like them?

I like achievements. I hate jumping puzzles. I also can’t do jumping puzzles.

But jumping is a small portion of the game. I was happy when SAB showed up because I felt like I could finally get a breather after zerging around like crazy for Scarlet loot. It feels like a nice vacation for me. As it has already been said above me, the puzzles are there for people who like jumping puzzles. Not everything appeals to everyone and if you don’t like a portion of the game you can simply choose to skip it. Achievement points really don’t mean anything. It’s just a number.

Jordo, I have 12 alts, all at level 80 :-)

Boysenberry, I would agree that achievement points really don’t mean anything but that big 8,000 AP chest is winking at me and calling out to me like a little temptress.

All I can say is, SAB was a bad time to stop smoking :-)

I’ll go back to the jumping once I am over the grumpy-wanna-put-fist-though-screen stage

Still think it has too much jumping…..

And with a hop, skip and a JUMP, Cheeky is away kill dead things

I pretty much ragequit from jumping puzzles when I realized the camera freaks out if you’re playing a norn jumping around corners and all sorts of nonsense.

Queen’s Jubalie required no jumping.
Gauntlet required no jumping.
Dungeons require no jumping.
Open world events require no jumping.
WvWvW requires no jumping. (aside from the specific jumping puzzle with in.)
90% of Fractals can be completed with out jumping.

No, no everything involves jumping. Look at all the achievements you have completed.

It’s hardly a coincidence that the achievements you’ve avoided doing all center around something you don’t like doing and it certainly doesn’t mean the entire game is focused on that one activity.

Anyway you’re not forced to do it any more than I’m forced to do PvP because there are achievements for that (including a whole daily and monthly category). If you want 100% of the achievements then yes you will have to complete 100% of the content, but it’s hardly the end of the world if you miss a few points.

I think your problem, OP is that you think that every achievement should be completably without jumping.

There are jumping achievements and non-jumping achievements. You don’t have to get them all. That’s in your head. I know this because it was in my head for a while, till I thought about it.

I don’t need every achievement point. I do what I think is fun. We just had an entire month of living story where not one achievement required jumping. This month we have a bunch of achievements that require jumping. This will give me a much needed rest from the LS and allow me to catch up on other things.

I can jump, somewhat, but I don’t enjoy it as much as other things. Thus, I haven’t even tried to get any of this release’s Achievement points. Lol, and all I need is one more point in the baby one from last time. My 8000 chest is waiting for me, too, but I suppose it can wait another two weeks. I am looking forward to the next patch. That’s the great thing about patches coming so often. If you don’t especially care for one, another is right around the corner. Plus, Halloween will be here soon! Lol

I spent some time with SAB until I realized it was more an exercise in frustration management and memorizing which 4 pixels to stand/run/jump off/jump on. So I went back to playing as I usually do. After all the hype I do wish it had been somewhat fun for me. The last event didn’t seem to involve jumping but I didn’t really have the time to do those invasions. I was a little disappointed that this locked me out of the Pavilion though.

I suppose my point is I don’t care about achievement points and I’m not really going to complain when some of the updates don’t fit my play style or I don’t find them fun. I don’t expect the game to cater only to me. There are plenty of permanent things in game that do accommodate to my play style.

Jumping puzzles would be fine – if player movement wasn’t so sluggish, especially mouse turning (which feels about as slow as being in the menu of an Elder Scrolls game).

Jumping with asura or charr classes is about 2-3 times worse than with humanoid size classes, and jumping during peak hours is about 3-5 times worse than during off hours (server side load issue). And grid snapping in this game due to client-server sync is abysmal – client side things look fine after a jump, but the server resets your position with a little desync-stutter movement. OMG, and do you remember that clockwork corkscrew jumping puzzle with multi-player chop-desync-lag?!?

I used to love jumping in games like Quake1/2/3, where you had a top-end FPS system that required finesse. GW2’s FPS engine reminds me of Everquest’s or WoW’s – sufficient (horrid?), but nothing like the quality you find in Quake’s.

Not to mention some of the vistas are at the end of jumping puzzles. The only reason I’ve done some of them is for the vista.

This thread makes me think of my recent revisit to Gw1 where your feet were glued to the ground. How the pendulum has swung! Hopefully it will find a nice equilibrium.

I’m thankfull to be able to jump at all, but I agree the camera thing can be a pain.

Stupidly I tend to jump about every third step when just running across flat terrain just because I can.