Guild Wars 2

Everybody is getting a chest, well im assuming, because everybody in my guild has gotten one and we all have done it.

Lol how did I know this would happen.

I disconnected from the event several times and went thru hell. Some people got a precursor and all kinds if amazing stuff.

They mailed me a chest and I am very thankful. They didnt have to do this and frankly I didnt expect them too.

You got a chest with exotics in the mail. Be happy.

P.S. I got 2 named exotic weapons and 1 exotic breastplate. Aling with the standard slot box and exotic accessory.

Seriously people? First you complain about the event, then you complain about not getting the chest, then you complain about getting the chest, then you complain about people getting two chests, then you complain about not getting a chest yet when the time limit isn’t even up, then you complain about what’s in the chest, then you complain about what should be in the chest or what shouldn’t be in the chest. Is there anything you won’t complain about? Give it a rest already! There will be other opportunities!

Berelious.3290:

Is there anything you won’t complain about?

Given enough time people will complain about anything. I think ANet deserves kudos for making this effort, even if it was not perfect. As for the complaints… well, those who had a bad experience at the event due to technical issues, or missed it due to timing, have a legitimate issue, but complaining about who got what sounds like something I used to hear from the kids I taught in grammar school.

The effort is made and I’m glad to finally have the chance to open that chest even if I’m still waiting for it… As for those who got another chest, good for them… but please Anet when will you consider opening a public test server because since the launch things are not going well regarding the programming of the game and that script you used 12 hours ago doesn’t seem to work very well…

Morrigan.2809:

Wow this thread blows my mind!
After people have been complaining for two weeks about not receiving rewards for the event- Anet makes good and sends those rewards and people QQ?

I joked this would happen- I wasn’t serious
Get a grip, you are getting your reward, say thank you!
They didn’t have to do this at all

I couldn’t agree more,this thread is ffing hilarious,this just proves that no matter what..people are Never gonna be happy..un Kitten believable.

It’s a shining example of the reward-based culture we live in. No goodies at the end of something? Then it wasnt worth it.

Sad part is, that most of the complainers are adults who should know better.

Maybe we should all just get a chest every month without an event? Just for being swell people and such good sports and all that.

I haven’t received a chest yet, but was unable to participate in the final event due to real life commitments. I did my best to do as much of the first two stages as possible though, including standing at that bugged guy in Caledon trying to stop others attacking him till he reset for I don’t know how long. Anyway, here’s why I thought giving the chest to everyone was the right thing to do, and I’m glad ANet seems to have done this.

The one time event was not available to everyone, for either work commitments or other reasons. Now, in normal circumstances, this would be fine, but the rewards given out were so exceptionally high that they became unfair. Just to get something equivalent to the accessory and the bag could take weeks (especially back then), and that’s to say nothing of the precursors etc. Players who have worked for hours to get to where they are, only to be overtaken by a factor of (whatever) will be understandably disheartened.

Now, giving the chest out to everyone including to those who already have it, balances this out nicely. Players who completed the event go from getting literally hundreds times the amount of total value of other players wealth to get twice the chance at an RNG as other players and twice the bag/accessory. This is a huge difference in scale, and much fairer.

Of course, this IS unfair on the people who got DCed. If ANet could have come up with a reliable script to give them two, then that would have been fairest. However, at least they are now getting the chest.

Also, I don’t think the people who are saying it doesn’t matter to other players are quite appreciating how competitive the economy is. Having a load of players suddenly worth the equivalent of a hundred or so normal players has a pretty big impact.

Regardless, it seems ANet has opted for the solution that I wanted. I am pleased for those who completed the event and got a second chest, and I think this was a good way to appease the discontent that followed Lost Shores. Thank you

Caedmon.6798:

Morrigan.2809:

Wow this thread blows my mind!
After people have been complaining for two weeks about not receiving rewards for the event- Anet makes good and sends those rewards and people QQ?

I joked this would happen- I wasn’t serious
Get a grip, you are getting your reward, say thank you!
They didn’t have to do this at all

I couldn’t agree more,this thread is ffing hilarious,this just proves that no matter what..people are Never gonna be happy..un Kitten believable.

The problem people have is not that players who dc’d are getting chests. Not a single person thinks that is unfair.

What players think is unfair:

1. People who never did the event receiving items worth 200g
2. People who already got their chests during the event receiving items worth 200g
3. People who dc’d not getting their chests

As for the really really stupid argument of “how does 1 and 2 effect you” It’s called the trade post, and putting large amounts of money into the hands of people who didnt actually deserve it isnt very good.

As for the even sillier argument of “life isnt fair” Yeah, it’s not. But this is a video game, one managed by an actual outside force, the “god” that is Anet ;p
And one assumes they would want things to be fair. Imagine if one class had a base of 2million hp and 10million damage. That wouldnt be fair would it? But would a single person use the silly argument that “life isnt fair?” No. because rational people understand that fairness is something that should exist as much as is possible in video games, especially mmo’s, seeing as there is an outside force with the ability to enforce it.

I’ll be honest here: People getting chests from the main event really doesn’t bother me. They participated, they got the reward; simple.

what does bug is the people who got the reward on multiple characters and still got a nice shiny chest mailed to them…

For me: I participated, got massive lag: disconnected a few times tried again and I’ll be honest: Gave up. But I made it to Southsun Cove, got off the boat killed a few “ghost” Karka’s with lucky lag shots and (guess what) got disconnected. When I tried again I couldn’t even log in!!!

I would love to know where the fairness is in that? I actually tried to and did manage to participate but due to no fault on my half physically could not play the game (on the event) due to disconnects and massive server lag. Oh forgot to add that I did manage to do everything up until the “Final Event”

Participant who couldn’t play: Chest? Nope.

Participant’s who played, got the rewards and still got a chest mailed? Yep.

Erm, I ended up getting the chest during the event, but it kinda went glitchy and I only got to see the chest open animation before I got disconnected. I logged on and had my loot appear, then I got a chest today. So I’m rather confused.

One of my guild-mates who swapped characters and abused the overflow opened the chest 4 times over four characters, and got a chest mailed to him. He’s made ridiculous amounts of gold because he got two precursors from it and held out til the initial burst supply dried up a bit.

Fortunately, he shares his good fortune and helps gear people up that have bad luck with gold. So it’s not like he hoarded it all.

Wow ….. Really ? Do some of you people realize that you sound like children throwing a tantrum because little Johnny got the super mega elite item and little Susan didn’t get anything special ? Since Susan spent all weekend on playing she deserves so much more than Johnny because he didn’t really play ? I’d love to know what guilds you all play in or groups you belong to. It has to be filled more drama and crying then a day care center. Good luck with those attitudes of elitism and selfishness boys and girls. Let me know how that turns out.

I for one hate fractals and dungeons and could care less about the entire event. I do have friends who did play that weekend and didn’t get their rewards and last night they got their rewards and were very happy. I’m also happy to read that others who played that weekend also got rewards and you know what ?……. GOOD FOR THEM !

Unfortunately I was at Deer Camp that weekend and didn’t play ( Yes…. I have a life outside of Guild Wars ) and I wasn’t here for the event. I doubt I would have played it to begin with but I didn’t get a free bunch of loot * Cries and stamps his feet like a little baby * OMG ! it’s the end of the world and I don’t ever want to play again this is so unfair ! This is really what some of you people sound like.

I’m glad folks received their just rewards for the event and happy for those who got something good for themselves or to share with others. For those complaining about others being rewarded for just being logged on that weekend, get over it. Arena.net made things right and to those new to how these folks do things they tend to make sure people get their just rewards and sometimes they even include others to make sure nobody who might have deserved something doesn’t get left out. Get over it !

Imagine if one class had a base of 2million hp and 10million damage. That wouldnt be fair would it? But would a single person use the silly argument that “life isnt fair?”

The way things go in games, the players of that class would tell all others “We’re not really that OP, you guys just need to L2P”.

Got disconnected during final boss and got nothing.

And those people receiving the mail even if they have opened the chest during the event or not participated at all.

No, no reason to complain.

Keiran.1896:

Got disconnected during final boss and got nothing.

And those people receiving the mail even if they have opened the chest during the event or not participated at all.

No, no reason to complain.

^This

I mean if you would look at your paycheck and see your coworkers get double the money you get you would not complain? I don’t see how anyone should accept such an unequal distribution. There is no need to rage but i can’t understand all of you talking down these legitimate demands.

Inqist.3584:

Keiran.1896:

Got disconnected during final boss and got nothing.

And those people receiving the mail even if they have opened the chest during the event or not participated at all.

No, no reason to complain.

^This

I mean if you would look at your paycheck and see your coworkers get double the money you get you would not complain? I don’t see how anyone should accept such an unequal distribution. There is no need to rage but i can’t understand all of you talking down these legitimate demands.

It not only that they get double your paycheck. Its you realize the company is even paying people who does’t even work there more than you

Why should be a reason to complain?

Some people are getting double chests, others are getting chests without even beeing ingame/online during the events, while some others dont get one even if they were there and got D/C before the end of the event, its obviously fair to me.

Some people, and their logic…meeeee o.0

I think it’s good that Anet are trying to do the right thing. Well done.
I missed out on the event as Iam Asutralian and it happened 4am my time. But I did log in as soon as I could and checked around the island, but it was over.

I thought I would log in today to check and no mail recieved signal, so I just clicked on my mail icon, nothing new and then all of a sudden up came a new mail with the chest.
I felt so surprised and got a few exotics and rares, a 20 slot bag as well as some high end craft items.

So those saying you missed out have you clicked on your mail icon? As for me the chest didn’t appear until I clicked on the mail.

/sigh just another American thinking the world revolves around him I bet. Everyone should have got the reward whether they did the event or not imo, because the event was implemented in such a way (one-time only) that meant people all over the world could not get involved.

One time events are bad, and designers should feel bad about using them in their games. Designers should hang themselves for putting very grand rewards for participation in events not all players can POSSIBLY attend.

One-time events should be lasting at least a week, so people with jobs and other committments outside Tyria can get in on the fun THEY PAID FOR.

This whole thing is a big mess because of the bad choices they made with the event. I have no sympathy, they didn’t think out this lost shores shizzle, and I hope they learn from it.

Of course people complain, they do all the time, my only complaint is that Anet gave away FREE precursors to a whole bunch of whiny kids, which resulted in the market blowing up and all materials go up 4x in price. (totally ruined all of my chances of getting Legendary anytime soon, I’ve had my precursor for over a month, the only thing I’m missing is my materials =.=, +3G/ Charged Lodestone x100.. overkill)

Legendary is supposed to be Legendary, the precursors were fine, also the droprate was fine, but now you got both expensive precursors AND materials, I do blame the tons of precursors that flooded the market at once.. :/

i was beeing ironic, sniff :’(

So: what about the people who exploited the overflow system and got multiple chest rewards? I assume they are all perma-banned, right?

Oh, they’re not?

Ah.

@arabeth

Please read back through the forums, It was stated by a mod that completing the chest event on multiple characters was intended from a design point of view and was never considered an exploit.
From this then if someone completed it on 1,2,3,4 characters and got 1,2,3,4 chests as rewards then they would still be entitled to an additional chest if they participated on yet another character and did not get to loot the chest. This would be a justified reward for their participation.

I am paraphrasing the moderators reply.

If you have the opinion they should not get the reward you have already been told that opinion is wrong from the staff themselves.

Edit : Thread here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/lostshores/Do-the-right-thing-and-ban-people-who-exploit/page/3#post813875

to OP, then how about if out-of-some-revelation-from-who-knows-what anet decides to make another one-time event with let’s say the same rewards with a time where you can’t attend. how do you feel?

i think anet did the right thing

i set my expectation low and didn’t expect to get a chest since i completely missed the finale but apparently i did and apparently most of people who attended and didn’t attend also got it

it’s actually a win-win solution
those who didn’t attend now also got the reward. some who did also got another reward. and if you did get another reward and still made this post, you really deserve a facepalm

Ive seen this somewhere before.

Quaz.4931:

/sigh just another American thinking the world revolves around him I bet. Everyone should have got the reward whether they did the event or not imo, because the event was implemented in such a way (one-time only) that meant people all over the world could not get involved.

One time events are bad, and designers should feel bad about using them in their games. Designers should hang themselves for putting very grand rewards for participation in events not all players can POSSIBLY attend.

One-time events should be lasting at least a week, so people with jobs and other committments outside Tyria can get in on the fun THEY PAID FOR.

Whole-heartedly agree.

Another Aussie here, who couldn’t get on at whatever ungodly hour it was when they hosted the 3rd phase of the weekend shamozzle (I think it was ~4am), but I’d already screwed up my bodyclock enough by doing the previous 2 phases on the days before. It was Monday morning and I had to work. I am NOT going to sacrifice my job for an online environment, only to get kicked multiple times and have no chest rewarded at the end. Some people don’t know just how fkn good they got it. Seriously guys, get a grip.

Anyway, my post on here was to say thankyou to ANet for coming good on something that I never thought I’d be rewarded for. I don’t regularly keep up with all the other threads and posts on the forums, so I didn’t know this was coming. I got a nice surprise when I looked at the mail when I logged in tonight, the Ancient Karka Chest was sitting there waiting for me. I did manage to get a L78 and L80 rare, a L78 and L80 exotic (one was a named exotic), the accessory and the 20-slot bag, which itself is worth ~13g (by market comparison to other 20-slotters). I am shooting for a precursor as well, but that never showed, regardless of how good the chances are supposed to be with these chests. Still I’m happy that I did get what I got, unlike some here.

So now I have a few extra gold to kick around with, not that I had heaps before, and also a chance at getting ectos from those drops which will help nicely with my clovers. Oh well, back to farming…

Again, thanks for delivering on something that you didn’t have to. Some people would call that honorable, while others here will incessantly complain, just because they don’t have enough to fill their empty lives with.

However I do hope you’ve taken a lesson from the one-time event gubbins… that seriously doesn’t work for all people, your servers can’t handle it and you’ll once again be in damage-control for weeks to placate the rowdy masses. Do as suggested in this thread, make it last for longer than your alloted timescale, like a 24 hour rolling event like you had for GW1. We don’t all live in America, as much as you’d probably wish us all to. Something to keep in mind for next time.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/opinions/the-entitlement-generation-and-the-death-of-games?utm_source=Reloading...&utm_campaign=0130ef6cd6-Reloading&utm_medium=email

Also:
Quote* /sigh just another American thinking the world revolves around him I bet.

Pleas don’t lump all Americans like that. There are alot of us who are NOT like that. Mostly just kids, and people raised by parents who didn’t care to teach them properly.

Who cares what others got? Who cares if they got a second or third or forth? Stop worrying about other people.

I received my chest in my mail. Opened it up and found exactly the two items I wanted from the start. The accessory and the bag. I could care less whatever else was in it. No precursor? No big deal… I got what I wanted all along. Anything else would have just been a bonus.

I do know that not everyone received a chest, however, because my wife never got one. She’s not terribly pissed like most people around here, just a little disappointed.

Be happy with what you received and stop caring what others get. Jealousy is a disgusting habit. Entitlement is even worse.

My wife and I did not receive the chest in mail. I see lots you people who did event but didn’t loot chest getting theirs, that’s great! I see some people who did event but didn’t get chest and still got no mail chest that’s not great ;‘( I see people who didn’t even log on that whole event or participate at all getting the mail that’s bs but lucky for then “gz”!
I see some got chest during event and getting another, that’s complete and utter BS, they got their chest already why they get another! If you’re gonna reward one twice then you need to reward ALL twice! No I’m not complaining about not getting a chest in mail, we already got ours during the event so meh w/e, but considering some are getting chest a second time that’s what I’m complaining about. As the saying goes, “Share and share alike or don’t share at all!”

I attended every day for events, barring disconnects / lags, and didn’t even receive chest via mail like some others who might not even have attended 1 event… really unfair gotta agree.

Syn Strykiir.9356:

My wife and I did not receive the chest in mail. I see lots you people who did event but didn’t loot chest getting theirs, that’s great! I see some people who did event but didn’t get chest and still got no mail chest that’s not great ;‘( I see people who didn’t even log on that whole event or participate at all getting the mail that’s bs but lucky for then “gz”!
I see some got chest during event and getting another, that’s complete and utter BS, they got their chest already why they get another!

Sounds like they have a pretty sound query there, know?

I should have clarified. The people who didn’t get the chest or the mail, have a legitimate beef. My post was aimed at those complaining about the contents or the fact that they didn’t get their welfare precursor.

I was unable make the event finale due to a family commitment…wasn’t expecting a chest and didn’t get a chest (only mail waiting for me post-script was a lousy gold-selling ad). It is a bit disappointing to see how uneven the application of the script went and that others who were in a similar situation (were unable to attend due to various reasons) DID get a chest. But I’ve pretty much moved on from The Lost Shores and refuse to dwell on that past disappointment.

Still, it would have been awesome to get have received that chest along with those other folks who were unable to attend. That 20-slot bag and accessory would have been a GREAT birthday present.

some of my guildmate that loot event chest still got mail but i don’t loot chest don’t got mail yet

Xaaz.8472:

I should have clarified. The people who didn’t get the chest or the mail, have a legitimate beef. My post was aimed at those complaining about the contents or the fact that they didn’t get their welfare precursor.

I was about to post this same thing. People who should have got it and haven’t yet, need to get it. People who did get one and are griping about what they got need to have a spanking for throwing a temper tantrum like they are 5.

I do find it a little odd that ANet expects you the player to use your own judgement and not use any ‘exploits’ that you may come across. What exactly is an exploit is left for you to determine.

Most(some) assumed that running the event on ALTs to get multiple chests would be considered an exploit. Thus, these people stayed away from that. Fear of the ban hammer. Obviously these people were wrong and lost out on additional loot.

Exploiting a Karma vendor is a banable offense, but looting multiple chests from a ‘one time’ event is not?

Just a little hard for the average player to keep up with what would be considered an exploit and what wouldn’t.

That aside, I think this Karka reward issue just went from bad to worse. With some still not receiving chests, some receiving multiple chests, and some receiving chests who did not even participate. The biggest impact to other players is the havoc it will wreak on the TP.

2 cases:
- count all precursors for all weapons currently in the trade post – there’s probably less then 300 total (to lazy to check). This game have 2 million players – 300 precursors for all of them.
- Some precursors are worth 12G today and they went up in price since karka event – not every precursor is Dawn or Dusk

The Event did as an Error, that ANet tryied to fix now. And gaved the rewards and everything.

And don’t you think that we that didn’t get DC, did got all exotics and percursors.

1. How can you be sure they did not participate? Maybe they did now because they disconnected?
2. When I openend the chest (right after slaying the ancient karka) I got 2 random rares and 2 random exotics, just like almost everyone else. I’m not sure why you got crapper loot, maybe you’re lower level?
3. I don’t think you would get a reward chest when you didn’t participate in any way.

Watch some of the following video from GDC by Anet: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/180776/Video_Guild_Wars_2s_programming_tricks_revealed.php#.UMIRfJKoqiY
The video uses marks that are labeled by topics, mouse over and pick one to watch, if not the whole thing.
They’ve got magical data that can be magically observed after day of interest. Add some qualifiers to characters that may or may not be on the list to be sent mail. (created a support ticket on the day of the event?; had character participate in phase 3 event to some extent?; other examples that may or may not be used in their process)

Bonus info/yawn: I got 2 rare and 2 exotics (with other items that everyone who got a Karka chest got-Karka box, jewelry), and I’ll likely be trying to get Ectos from all 4 pieces of gear. (did not get a precursor) I have 3 rank 30s wearing Power, Toughness, Vitality Exotics, and one just got 100% map completion. Been playing less often since getting their exotic gear. Kind of waiting for more content, and not interested in Legendary or Ascended items. I hope more styles are released at some point months from now. Whether it be Heart vendor recipe in new map or new Legendary styles. Looking forward to Feb WvWvW patch.

Thx ANet. I appreciate the follow thru.

Wrei Mors Les.8406:

I’ve yet to see people still complain that they still aren’t able to repeat the karka event…

Probably because it was bugged and boring?

There was a chest? Huh?

I don’t mind if everyone gets a chest, but some people get more chests even though they have already opened the original chest during the event itself.

CrashTestAuto.9108:

The one time event was not available to everyone, for either work commitments or other reasons. Now, in normal circumstances, this would be fine, but the rewards given out were so exceptionally high that they became unfair. Just to get something equivalent to the accessory and the bag could take weeks (especially back then), and that’s to say nothing of the precursors etc. Players who have worked for hours to get to where they are, only to be overtaken by a factor of (whatever) will be understandably disheartened.

Pretty much this.

I’m still very glad that Anet is working on fixing it for those who at least could participate and tried to. I’m sorry they haven’t done a smoother or faster job for people, but they are working on it… and we’re actually seeing a lot of communication from them on it, which is a pleasant surprise.

But to those of us screwed by the very design of the one time event, many of the most vocal gripes just look ungrateful. You’ll probably get your crap… one way or another.

The rest of us just have to hope that Anet shows more wisdom in designing these events in the future.

Nate.5109:

The rest of us just have to hope that Anet shows more wisdom in designing these events in the future.

I hope the next time the reward is just town clothes, a t-shirt saying:

“I killed the Ancient Karka and all I got was this.”

in the tooltip.

That’ll shut this crap up about unfair reward systems.

hahah

yeah life is unfair.

but a lot of people are learning it the soft way; in mmos!

i hope they’ll remember this chest later in their life, when the unfair demon crit hit them…
not that i wish that to happen to anybody.