Guild Wars 2

I’ll start by pointing out that there’s a ton of problems with Keg Brawl, from basic movement bugs to game breaking mechanics, all of which I have or intend to bring up in bugs and suggestion forums respectively so I won’t bring up here. But there’s no larger problem in the game than the fact that (apparently) the overwhelming majority of people in a Keg Brawl game are not willing to play the actual game. Instead, 9/10 times I join a match, I find myself in the middle with only 2 or 3 other people, even though the match is full to capacity at 10/10 players.

I shouldn’t have to convince anyone of the problem here, so why should people who have no intention of playing the game be allowed to pursue that title in this fashion? In-fact, the mechanics of the game almost cater to it. Once they leave the Arena with the keg, another one spawns in the center, leaving the offenders feeling justified that they’re not spoiling anyone else’s fun, when in-fact, they are.

Why am I irritated by this? Because I’m one of the few people who actually enjoy Keg Brawl! I enjoy it enough to stick with it through a lot of the problems, but if I can’t play Keg Brawl, then there’s no point in me thinking this is ever going to be something I can come back to. They didn’t put a 10 player maximum because they actually expected there to be a bunch of farmers and only really wanted matches of 2v2 or 1v2… it’s sickening to me to know that I won’t be able to play against 3 or 4 or 5 other players and employ teamwork between 3 or 4 or 5 other players as well because people who’re not playing to play

Keg Brawl and WvW are the only things I expressly like in and of themselves. Things that I enjoy spending time in because they’re fun. I easily have some 400+ hours in Keg Brawl (likely closer to 500 or 600), and got the title legitimately, to a point of my own personal pride. Have all those hours spent been amazing? No. But enough of them have that I was able to deal. But now it’s just ridiculous.

“Why don’t you just go to a different game?”

1.) Because there’s no way to guarantee I’ll be put in a different match. Actually, from my experience, it seems once the you’ve been placed into a match, it will default you to that match as long as it can until it’s full in which case I’d obviously get placed in a different match.
1.b.) There’s actually times that I’ve counted 20 plus tries trying to get into a match with my friends (after being placed in a match I didn’t want to be in of course) who I specifically partied up with hoping it would have a better chance of placing me in their game, but no, it just kept me in the same one. This is a waste of my time. I don’t play Keg Brawl to click leave and reenter ad nauseum… that’s not fun to me.

2.) Why should I have to leave when they’re the ones who aren’t playing the game?! Why should I leave when I’m the one who’s having their fun spoiled by players who don’t want to play this game?… especially when I do! They’re no different than people who bot (go afk with some program or auto-cast that keeps them from being an inactive player) for wins, and we certainly don’t want those people in these games either, right?

“But Kegmaster is takes too long!”

How does that justify spoiling someone else’s fun? Furthermore, it is completely reasonable that Kegmaster would take as long as it does, because it’s only intended for those who can actually tolerate its game play. It’s for those people that like it!… Who like it enough to spend hundreds of hours playing it. It’s a reward for people who’ve distinguished themselves as a Keg Brawl player, who will play daily because it’s one of the things keeping them playing GW2 at all. So I don’t care (and ArenaNet shouldn’t either) if it takes too long for people who don’t actually like playing Keg Brawl. By definition, you do not deserve it.

I truly want to keep playing Keg Brawl because I like it, but it seems like more and more people are clogging up the matches with their parasitic visions of prestige. In closing, I really really wish that ArenaNet would do something about this soon cause no one should have to get frustrated at trying to enjoy something in this game that other players are preventing by the design of the game type.

To clarify the actions of said players; when the match starts, they’ll try to be the first to grab the keg that spawns in the middle. Once they do, they’ll take their little group outside of the Arena by going south over the fence really easily (which is supposedly supposed to keep players in right? But whatever.). There’s typically anwhere from 3-6 of these players who will just leave the match without actually leaving the game, and they’ll farm the achievements needed to get the Kegmaster title or the 204 Achievements points available there.

I take it this is just a big long post that comes down to…

Leachers = bad?

Pretty much. I used most of that to dispel the ridiculous arguments people come up for it.

And I’ve still not even found Keg Brawl… all I know is it’s somewhere (hidden?) in Hoelbrak. I really should look it up in the wiki at some point. After all, I’m playing since october, haha.

@topic: Yes, trying to get an achievement like this certainly is bad behaviour and shouldn’t be tolerated. I hope they can implement something that automatically kicks people out after a certain amount of time without doing any action that you’d normally do frequently while playing keg brawl. (not defining it more specific, since I’ve got no idea about keg brawl (yet))

It’s on Lake Mourn, the western icy clearing in Hoelbrak. Speak to the guy with the two flags. It’s pretty obvious once you find it :P

I agree it’s a problem. The solution is to play Keg Brawl on days when it’s not a daily, particularly if you get a group of keg brawl players together before hand.

I really enjoy keg brawl (I didn’t think I would) and so far have gotten all my keg brawl achievements honestly. It’s a lot harder when you log in and people are just passing the kegs to each other voluntarily to up their achievement points.

Actually there should be bans for this type of behavior, since it should be considered exploiting the system.

Eh, it’s rarely better on off days. I really wish they would make private servers available, or have a some kind of tournament system like SPvP. But that’s probably asking too much considering it took ArenaNet 7 months to get that in at all. :/

What ticks me off is stupid guys (playing girls character), pick up the Keg, and hop the fence to the outside world. -_- It was literally 2 v 4, and it was a big massacre! I was on the 4 side of course, but my pity goes far to those who suffered such hyenous crime!

I assume it was guys because they go with something like Roy,456161616 and AndySkot.48569496

Kegbrawl alone is far way better than whole sPvP, I have a lot of fun with it.
I would be really pleased if ANet decide to improve the system to be more e-sportish and add some actual reward for playing it, not just the achievements.

P.S.
Can’t wait for crab toss.