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Posted by: Andy.9586

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So it has been 4 weeks since Anet changed the key and chest drop rate. If you have been keeping track, what are your results?
For myself, after clearing 8 maps ( different toons) and killing multiple foes and mobs, here’s what I got so far;
. Killing, no keys and 4 chests
. Map completion, one key. ( two maps did not even give me the reward chest)

For myself the increased rate is obviously not having any effect. If anything I’m getting less than before the update. ( and no I never farmed keys )

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Posted by: Sidenti.6035

Sidenti.6035

I’ve had two drops and four from map completions in the same time span. Consider offerings to RNGesus – it is really fond of hot cocoa and Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. -Sid

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

~20 BL chests, 0 keys.

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Posted by: Unfathomed.8140

Unfathomed.8140

Around 6 or 7 chests and 1 key, all just from killing random mobs.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

No keys from drops yet but that should really come as no surprise to anybody. I have had 4 total the 3 years I have been here before this change was made. So that explains that.

“Map completion, one key. ( two maps did not even give me the reward chest)”

More than likely you completed these maps in the past and got the reward already. Anet have added extra Poi’s and Wps to some of the maps. What this did was made our 100% for them less than 100%. So we had to complete them again by getting these new Wps or Poi’s. They are right in not rewarding us again with the chest. You were not ripped off trust me.

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Posted by: Tapioca.9062

Tapioca.9062

I got one. On a beta map. But it still counts, I guess? At least it wasn’t a precursor.

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Posted by: khani.4786

khani.4786

Before the change 2-3 keys as drops over 3 years.

Since the change 2 keys as drops. One from Honor of the Waves as a mob drop and the other a random critter near Teq.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

No keys. About 4 chests.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Crimson Clouds.4853

Crimson Clouds.4853

None from drops (which is no surprise considering how rare they are anyway).

I think I got 2 out of the 4 maps I’ve cleared. Probably 10+ BL chests.

And OP… something’s not right if you’re not getting completion chests, and its worth investigating. Perhaps you already completed the map before (and received the rewards) and since then maybe they’ve added new tasks or POIs? Otherwise the map may not be completed.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Still haven’t seen a key. I totally forgot they changed the drop rate on them.

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Posted by: Koomaster.9176

Koomaster.9176

About a week before the change I had 2 key drops within a week of each other. After the change 1 key drop. No other key drops. So don’t know what that means. After the change I also got a precursor drop (dawn) so maybe my rng is on an upswing in general.

As for chests, dozens. Haven’t kept track but I sold ~25 on the TP recently when I realized I had so many. Actually just created a new character yesterday and got him to level 15 and had 2 chests drop just from that.

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Posted by: thehipone.6812

thehipone.6812

No keys from drops. Did about a dozen map completes and got 5 or 6. Was 3 for 3 on the first three map rewards, then a run of about 50/50 key/transmute. Now I’m on an 0 for 4 streak. Yay RNG.

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Posted by: Vague Memory.2817

Vague Memory.2817

They didn’t say how much they increased the drop rate or indeed what the drop rate was to start with. I think I got 2 open world key drops in 3 years, and zero from the last month. I get ascended drops far more often than keys, so I’m guessing key drop rate before the change were several magnitudes lower chance, and is still lower after the change.

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Posted by: ImTasty.2163

ImTasty.2163

I’ve noticed an increase. I recently got a couple of friends to try the game out and have been playing with them for the last week or so. I’ve received about 3 or 4 key drops from killing mobs and another 2 from map completion. That’s RNG though. In fact, at one point I was sitting on a key and could not get a chest to drop at all but my friends had about 10 chest with no keys. RNG is RNG man.

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Posted by: Oxidia.8103

Oxidia.8103

Around 15 chests, 0 keys. But only time i got keys were around 2 and a half years ago when i was doing map completions on my 4 chars. I dare to day not even 1 of these dropped from killing mobs ever.

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Posted by: Ardid.7203

Ardid.7203

1 key drop in a year and half of play before the change. Another 1 key drop and 2 BLC last week.

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

Mightybird.6034

0keys (play about an average of 60-90mins a day.)

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Posted by: Mea.5491

Mea.5491

No key (never had a key drop, been playing since 2012), a bunch of chests…

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Posted by: Kodiak.3281

Kodiak.3281

Still only ever gotten 1 key as a drop (WvW) after change. Gotten numerous Chests.

Again pretty sure this was just to nerf key farming on new F2P accounts.

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Posted by: rhapsody.3615

rhapsody.3615

So far I’ve only noticed an increase in black lion chest drops

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Posted by: Revolutionen.5693

Revolutionen.5693

Got my first key ever from a drop 2 weeks ago, gotten more chests than usual aswell

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Posted by: Meridian.4983

Meridian.4983

About 27 chests have dropped, no keys. And no surprise.

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Posted by: Gorani.7205

Gorani.7205

I get like 1-3 chests a day since the patch. No keys.

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Posted by: Chpoit.6498

Chpoit.6498

No keys, over 20 chests

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Posted by: KerryTT.4792

KerryTT.4792

1 key drop since the change. Don’t really notice chest drops but have been getting quite a few.

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Posted by: Jaymee.1560

Jaymee.1560

15 chests. 0 keys.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

There’s no way that a small number of players can determine how much the drop rate for keys has changed:

  • We know it was too low to easily measure before the patch.
  • We can see it is still too low to easily measure now, after the patch.

So all we really know is that it’s low, low, low, low. (Maybe lower than that.)


To seriously measure the drop rate, you need to know how many drops a player might have. I don’t know anyone who measures that for more than an hour at a time and I know very few people willing to do even that. The thing is, you can do map completion for hours without killing that many foes, a full day’s worth of dungeon run (which has very few kills), or a ton of world bosses (also with very few kills). In contrast, you can spend an hour farming in Orr or the Harathi camp liberation chain and get far more kills.

In either scenario, any single player is only getting a hundred or two potential drops at most, so it’s unlikely that the vast majority of folks would see any keys dropping. Unless, of course, you think that ANet decided to make the drop rate for keys as common as ordinary exotics — and that’s also something that most people don’t see every day.

tl;dr we don’t have enough data to compare drop rates for keys; we don’t even have enough data to make reasonable guesses, except to say it’s really, really low.

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Posted by: Beldin.5498

Beldin.5498

1 Key so far .. i don’t count the chests ^^

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Posted by: Deaths Sensei.5317

Deaths Sensei.5317

50% of a world completion on warrior
ton of random kills
0 BLK, ~20 chests

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Posted by: Zet.9130

Zet.9130

LOL – So to recap. Anet said they were going to increase the drop rate of keys. What they didn’t say was that we wouldn’t notice the difference.

AND it’s not their fault blame RNG.
/bitter

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

Lol I just got a key drop. I guess complaining on the forums does pay off! I have only been playing very casually since the update too. Just doing daily and farming foxfires. Got the drop off the Vet that guards the Elder Tress in Malchor’s Leap.

So a word to the wise, don’t overlook killing him while you farm there!

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

Got a key from map completion and 10 chests since the change.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

Found 1 Key this week in WvW. Otherwise, I usually never get them outside of map compleition or PS, weirdly enough the ones that drop are usually in WvW.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

PopeUrban.2578

Even a 100% buff to a statistically insignificant drop rate means you still have a statistically insignificant chance of getting a key as a drop.

They’re not going to just start handing them out like candy after specifically nerfing the most reliable way to circumvent the gem store. The fact that they even drop is so they can say that they drop, not as a means to provide a reliable source of them.

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Posted by: Neural.1824

Neural.1824

They probably bumped the drop chance up by +0.00001%
Just enough to legally say there was an increase.
On the players end, not a noticeable difference at all. It’s all about hype.

Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!

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Posted by: Mango.1845

Mango.1845

1 chest, 0 key until now

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Posted by: Harper.4173

Harper.4173

I don’t even think they changed the rates – it doesn’t matter anyway – we lack the measuring tools to check. We can’t tell one way or another.

It’s just that it sounded better to say something that made people think they “gave” something in return after they took away key farming.

Classic PR stunt.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

I found my first precursor (zap) in 3 years. I’m thanking the key drop rate change.

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Posted by: Eight Samurai.6840

Eight Samurai.6840

I haven’t gotten any personally, but we did have 2 or 3 guildies reporting that they did get some since the change (which 2 or 3 is a lot in just a couple weeks).

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

0 keys from drops (only from personal story and map completion) and about 50 chests, played a lot obviously

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Posted by: Celtic Lady.3729

Celtic Lady.3729

0 keys have dropped for me since the key farm nerf.

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Posted by: Andy.9586

Andy.9586

No keys from drops yet but that should really come as no surprise to anybody. I have had 4 total the 3 years I have been here before this change was made. So that explains that.

“Map completion, one key. ( two maps did not even give me the reward chest)”

More than likely you completed these maps in the past and got the reward already. Anet have added extra Poi’s and Wps to some of the maps. What this did was made our 100% for them less than 100%. So we had to complete them again by getting these new Wps or Poi’s. They are right in not rewarding us again with the chest. You were not ripped off trust me.

Considering that I had never been to these maps on this character, I’d say I was ripped off.

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

TexZero.7910

3 Keys, Too many chest to count.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

No Keys. I enjoyed getting them without the need for RNG.
Sucks when you play a lot + have an unlucky account. Makes beating RNG even harder.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

No keys from drops yet but that should really come as no surprise to anybody. I have had 4 total the 3 years I have been here before this change was made. So that explains that.

“Map completion, one key. ( two maps did not even give me the reward chest)”

More than likely you completed these maps in the past and got the reward already. Anet have added extra Poi’s and Wps to some of the maps. What this did was made our 100% for them less than 100%. So we had to complete them again by getting these new Wps or Poi’s. They are right in not rewarding us again with the chest. You were not ripped off trust me.

Considering that I had never been to these maps on this character, I’d say I was ripped off.

Well that def sounds like a bug then. Are you sure no one else plays on your account like a brother or sister or something? If not I would def send in a support tickect and they can clear that up for you.

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Posted by: bladex.9502

bladex.9502

3 keys and about 20-ish chests from dungeons

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Posted by: Endless Soul.5178

Endless Soul.5178

Only two keys from map completion. 0 from random drops. About 15 chests from random drops.

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Posted by: Linfang.1087

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Combing through Dry Top, still looking for keys, but until then..

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

created a char and levelled them to 80,
completed the whole personal story and season 2 LW in under a week.
2 chests 0 keys.

years ago i got 2 keys in quick succession in the Gendarran Fields beast arena event,
never had a key since.

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Posted by: Raedwulf.3712

Raedwulf.3712

Don’t think I’ve have an open world drop since the announcement, but since they nerfed key-farming (I used to do it once a day, to use up some of those ToK’s as much as anything), I decided to promote one of the spare slots to a new permanent L80 alt (I had all classes at the cap before the first birthday).

Since, he has been doing a lot of map completions. I seem to remember hearing that the drop rate is supposed to be about 3 in 10 for map completion; I reckon I’ve had something like 5 in 6 or so in recent completions. Either that’s where they’ve increased the rate, or the RNG has decided to be slightly nicer to me temporarily…

Not that it’s doing any good. They’re all sat in the bank, waiting for some indication that Anet are going to respond the wall of justifiable criticism about the rubbish that drops from BLC’s. Those of you that recall the original storm will also remember it boiled down to “people don’t buy keys cos the rewards are mostly garbage!” Quite right too, in my opinion!

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