Guild Wars 2

This is a public service announcement to anyone and everyone who currently uses the Looking for Group (LFG) system in-game:

• Please read the listing before clicking ‘Join Party/Merge Parties’ .

It would seem that this most recent update -Twilight Assault- has increased the tool’s usage by a large amount. However, many players neglect to read which groups they’re joining. People post “Story Mode” and get 4 people insta-joining for Explorable Mode; a listing for the New Path, lvl80 Only has 60’s, 50’s, and 70’s joining in.

The problem is that these groups have to kick the members that don’t fit into what the group is originally set, so sometimes people’s feelings get hurt by the kick. Another issue is that the group has to once again relist it’s posting and repeat this process two to three times before getting a member that actually fits the criteria that they originally requested.

So, again I ask the simple request from the community to please read the listing prior to joining an LFG party. Thank you.

You think the description in the lfg tool was supposed to be used?!?!? wheres anitgw when you need him to instill some sense in these entitled elitists

champ.7021:

You think the description in the lfg tool was supposed to be used?!?!? wheres anitgw when you need him to instill some sense in these entitled elitists

Ironically, I never claimed that the description was not supposed to be used.

It’s funny that you didn’t actually read my posts and still talk, after complaining about “rabble” that doesn’t read your descriptions.

HA! Pugs always find a way to annoy or waste your time.

You think people will read it? They never will. This will be a big problem in the current iteration of the LFG FOREVER.

This is why developers should make the LFG tool idiot proof. Unfortunately, ANet didn’t make it idiot proof so we all will suffer.

champ.7021:

You think the description in the lfg tool was supposed to be used?!?!? wheres anitgw when you need him to instill some sense in these entitled elitists

Of course the description of grouping should be read, a description of for desired groups does not an elitist make.

Im Mudbone.1437:

champ.7021:

You think the description in the lfg tool was supposed to be used?!?!? wheres anitgw when you need him to instill some sense in these entitled elitists

Of course the description of grouping should be read, a description of for desired groups does not an elitist make.

Ah this is true, however for some reason people will have arguments with you that the tool was supposed to be used to find groups fast not to find specific groups.

(prob should have added a /s at the end of that post)

Xcom.1926:

You think people will read it? They never will. This will be a big problem in the current iteration of the LFG FOREVER.

This is why developers should make the LFG tool idiot proof. Unfortunately, ANet didn’t make it idiot proof so we all will suffer.

Anet really needs to force people to read the description when joining.

Adding a confirmation button with the party text/description above it and a 5 second delay before enabling it would probably do the job.

Xcom.1926:

You think people will read it? They never will. This will be a big problem in the current iteration of the LFG FOREVER.

This is why developers should make the LFG tool idiot proof. Unfortunately, ANet didn’t make it idiot proof so we all will suffer.

This is not a problem, big or small, and will not be. People that don’t read will eventually get tired of being kicked and suspended from joining groups.

Izaya.2906:

Anet really needs to force people to read the description when joining.

Adding a confirmation button with the party text/description above it and a 5 second delay before enabling it would probably do the job.

And what happens while the person is looking at the confirmation button? Does the group get removed from the list for 5 seconds, or are people still able to see it and also click join? What if many people start clicking join at the same time, do they get placed into a queue or something?

The tool was designed to find you a group fast, and your idea doesn’t help that (I had thought of something like that myself, before discarding it for the same reasons).

I put path 1 or 2 in the description.
Everyone picked 3 -_-

Would it help if the tool gave certain privileges to the person that created the listing?

Such as being able to select a dungeon path or story mode without voting.

Izaya.2906:

Anet really needs to force people to read the description when joining.

Adding a confirmation button with the party text/description above it and a 5 second delay before enabling it would probably do the job.

I like that idea very much. An additional confirmation button for the player to view the text of what’s being asked of the group. Very useful.

AntiGw.9367:

Would it help if the tool gave certain privileges to the person that created the listing?

Such as being able to select a dungeon path or story mode without voting.

No, because that doesn’t solve the issue in general, as it’s just a force against others to do something they don’t want to do, based on them joining a group that they didn’t read info about. The problem that prompted the creation of this thread is that people are joining a group for something very specific that they either cannot do or didn’t plan to do (lower levels not able to do level 80 paths/dungeons, and people who are looking for Explorable Mode groups that are joining Story Mode groups for a lack of reading).

GW2 has the most stupid player base ever. I don’t think I saw a single player who actually read the description when I tried to make groups for the new dungeon path. Not a single one. There are idiots in all games but I haven’t even seen a single player who had read what I stated before clicking the join button..

chuckle we didn’t have quite as much issue in GW1 when people actually had to be approved and accepted by the group leader. Sure, there were still trolls and skill issues, and still some randomness, but no where near as bad.

champ.7021:

Im Mudbone.1437:

champ.7021:

You think the description in the lfg tool was supposed to be used?!?!? wheres anitgw when you need him to instill some sense in these entitled elitists

Of course the description of grouping should be read, a description of for desired groups does not an elitist make.

Ah this is true, however for some reason people will have arguments with you that the tool was supposed to be used to find groups fast not to find specific groups.

(prob should have added a /s at the end of that post)

If this REALLY were the case then a description field would not have been added.

Cant read them.

By the time you get a few letters in the group has filled and you’ve lost your spot.

Spam join and hope for the best.

Sometimes you have to kick so many people and relist, that the lfg tool marks your listing as spam.

Siphaed.9235:

This is a public service announcement to anyone and everyone who currently uses the Looking for Group (LFG) system in-game:

• Please read the listing before clicking ‘Join Party/Merge Parties’ .

It would seem that this most recent update -Twilight Assault- has increased the tool’s usage by a large amount. However, many players neglect to read which groups they’re joining. People post “Story Mode” and get 4 people insta-joining for Explorable Mode; a listing for the New Path, lvl80 Only has 60’s, 50’s, and 70’s joining in.

The problem is that these groups have to kick the members that don’t fit into what the group is originally set, so sometimes people’s feelings get hurt by the kick. Another issue is that the group has to once again relist it’s posting and repeat this process two to three times before getting a member that actually fits the criteria that they originally requested.

So, again I ask the simple request from the community to please read the listing prior to joining an LFG party. Thank you.

The vast majority of the people who would most benefit from this PSA likely never visit the forums and will never see this.

I still maintain that forced merges and joins make the LFG Tool not worth using for any serious dungeoneers, and that gw2lfg.com is still superior.

AntiGw.9367:

Xcom.1926:

You think people will read it? They never will. This will be a big problem in the current iteration of the LFG FOREVER.

This is why developers should make the LFG tool idiot proof. Unfortunately, ANet didn’t make it idiot proof so we all will suffer.

This is not a problem, big or small, and will not be. People that don’t read will eventually get tired of being kicked and suspended from joining groups.

Izaya.2906:

Anet really needs to force people to read the description when joining.

Adding a confirmation button with the party text/description above it and a 5 second delay before enabling it would probably do the job.

And what happens while the person is looking at the confirmation button? Does the group get removed from the list for 5 seconds, or are people still able to see it and also click join? What if many people start clicking join at the same time, do they get placed into a queue or something?

The tool was designed to find you a group fast, and your idea doesn’t help that (I had thought of something like that myself, before discarding it for the same reasons).

Exactly what happens when they click join. A spot gets filled up, also add a cancel button so when they actually realize the group isn’t for them before 5 seconds they don’t waste their time & the party.

I’d argue against finding a group fast being a priority vs finding a correct group. If that was what was intended then why even bother having a description text to be filled up?

Im Mudbone.1437:

champ.7021:

Im Mudbone.1437:

champ.7021:

You think the description in the lfg tool was supposed to be used?!?!? wheres anitgw when you need him to instill some sense in these entitled elitists

Of course the description of grouping should be read, a description of for desired groups does not an elitist make.

Ah this is true, however for some reason people will have arguments with you that the tool was supposed to be used to find groups fast not to find specific groups.

(prob should have added a /s at the end of that post)

If this REALLY were the case then a description field would not have been added.

This really were the case, although not the way that guy is saying it (because he didn’t read my posts that actually explain that).

The box was added simply to let other people know what you are looking for. Once they join, it’s your responsibility to figure things out among yourselves. The tool itself was indeed designed with a priority on finding groups fast (and let you talk things out after that), not finding you groups that fit specific criteria.

Izaya.2906:

AntiGw.9367:

Xcom.1926:

You think people will read it? They never will. This will be a big problem in the current iteration of the LFG FOREVER.

This is why developers should make the LFG tool idiot proof. Unfortunately, ANet didn’t make it idiot proof so we all will suffer.

This is not a problem, big or small, and will not be. People that don’t read will eventually get tired of being kicked and suspended from joining groups.

Izaya.2906:

Anet really needs to force people to read the description when joining.

Adding a confirmation button with the party text/description above it and a 5 second delay before enabling it would probably do the job.

And what happens while the person is looking at the confirmation button? Does the group get removed from the list for 5 seconds, or are people still able to see it and also click join? What if many people start clicking join at the same time, do they get placed into a queue or something?

The tool was designed to find you a group fast, and your idea doesn’t help that (I had thought of something like that myself, before discarding it for the same reasons).

Exactly what happens when they click join. A spot gets filled up, also add a cancel button so when they actually realize the group isn’t for them before 5 seconds they don’t waste their time & the party.

I’d argue against finding a group fast being a priority vs finding a correct group. If that was what was intended then why even bother having a description text to be filled up?

So your group can effectively be kept off the list by people who can’t decide what they want. Meanwhile everybody else who does know what he’s clicking the join button for, is being slowed down by the tool.

The reading issue is not big enough to inconvenience the entire playerbase who is having a great time with the tool already.

I think simply being able to accept or deny people joining your group as the one who is the leader (made the post) would be sufficient.

SuLor.2840:

I think simply being able to accept or deny people joining your group as the one who is the leader (made the post) would be sufficient.

So right – but sadly the “anti-elitist” people won’t have that.

So, the upshot of all this is the next revision of the LFG Tool should allow the lister to SET and LOCK the dungeon path that will be available and to set a minimum level so that if the viewer is below that level, they CANNOT SEE the listing to erroneously respond to it.

I’d like to think that’s well within the skills of ANets code-monkeys.

Nike.2631:

So, the upshot of all this is the next revision of the LFG Tool should allow the lister to SET and LOCK the dungeon path that will be available and to set a minimum level so that if the viewer is below that level, they CANNOT SEE the listing to erroneously respond to it.

I’d like to think that’s well within the skills of ANets code-monkeys.

Something like this is already a problem with the current tool. If I’m on my low level alt, I cannot see the listing of coe or arah for example. They should remove all the level restriction when just viewing the listing.

Harper.4173:

SuLor.2840:

I think simply being able to accept or deny people joining your group as the one who is the leader (made the post) would be sufficient.

So right – but sadly the “anti-elitist” people won’t have that.

Not just by anti-elitist people. The devs themselves explicitly stated that “forced join” is intentional, and explained why. And I agree with them, it makes the tool more convenient overall.

Yenn.9185:

Nike.2631:

So, the upshot of all this is the next revision of the LFG Tool should allow the lister to SET and LOCK the dungeon path that will be available and to set a minimum level so that if the viewer is below that level, they CANNOT SEE the listing to erroneously respond to it.

I’d like to think that’s well within the skills of ANets code-monkeys.

Something like this is already a problem with the current tool. If I’m on my low level alt, I cannot see the listing of coe or arah for example.

In my mind that’s a good thing. Get on the character you’re gonna use, rather than joining from a lowbie and making the rest of us wait. If you aren’t ready to go, you aren’t ready to go.

Nike.2631:

Yenn.9185:

Nike.2631:

So, the upshot of all this is the next revision of the LFG Tool should allow the lister to SET and LOCK the dungeon path that will be available and to set a minimum level so that if the viewer is below that level, they CANNOT SEE the listing to erroneously respond to it.

I’d like to think that’s well within the skills of ANets code-monkeys.

Something like this is already a problem with the current tool. If I’m on my low level alt, I cannot see the listing of coe or arah for example.

In my mind that’s a good thing. Get on the character you’re gonna use, rather than joining from a lowbie and making the rest of us wait. If you aren’t ready to go, you aren’t ready to go.

Well, that’s another issue entirely. I wouldn’t mind getting someone who’s passing the time LFGing by just leveling an alt. It takes all of 2 minutes to logout to the character screen and select your level 80. However, there is an overall issue with people going into the LFG system like they’re ready for a dungeon, only to ask for 5-10 minutes to let the dog out/put the kids to bed/watch an episode of LOST or whatever just after joining a group. THAT itself is a poor state of not being ready.

“LFG” should be read as “LFG-RTG”, for Looking For Group – Ready To Go .

What really irks me on the whole “not reading description” crowd, is that these people are getting slapped into other parties. I feel sorry for those parties. Basically it’s people that cannot extend the 5-10sec of their time to properly read grouping instructions; which begs the question of whether they can properly communicate group tactics within the dungeons they do get into. It’s almost like it’s a whole bunch of Leroy Jenkins running around (yes, I know it was a set up ploy and wasn’t real, but the situational similarities still pander to the reference).

This has happened to me a few times. Most recently when me and a buddy were looking to wrap up the night with HoTW P1. We were two, put up clearly that we were going for Path 1, then 3 guys came in suddenly and merged with us and said “No, we’re going P3, we haven’t done it.” I don’t know what’s wrong with people. You join, you follow where the initial group is going, not takeover the group. I think the group description that people joined should be printed extra super large permanently while the group is together… to the point where any change of plans will make them look dumb when the big words stare back at them.