Lyssia Iceblood of Gandara – I sometimes win… but not often :-(
Left behind?
You can still compete just fine if you have exotic jewlery, the stat difference is not so large that it keeps you from being able to win. I only have one character that has all ascended trinkets the rest have exotics and I really have no issues with them. That is not to say that there is no advantage to having ascended but player skill will more than make up for the loss in stats, I guess what I should say is it’s not an automatic loss if you have exotic and they have ascended.
Come back after a break and I loved WvW, but sadly reading the forums it seems everyone is fully decked out in Ascended items.. putting me at a severe disadvantage unless I suck it up and roll with the zerg…
I thought by now ascended would have been made easier to get rather than a time-sink (laurels) or fractals, maybe log in do daily and in a few months time i’ll be able to play and actually compete :-)
You seriously think that the 5% difference between Ascended and Exotic will leave you “at a severe disadvantage” ? That’s a joke,…a seriously bad joke. I’ve seen Champion ranked WvW players get steam rolled by Soldier ranked WvW players in 1vs1 fights; seen Level 60’s (boosted to 80, but still in 60 gear) kill some who was in Exotic gear (tell by the look of the CoF set they were wearing). The minor gear percentage differences mean NOTHING with skill-shots, split second ability trigger, and proper character play.
Yeah, unless you’re running around in extremely bad gear (low level, missing pieces, etc…) I don’t really see how you’d be at a significant disadvantage. Ascended items are nice and a goal to work towards but not reason to sideline someone over. An achievable goal is to have a set of exotic gear with stats to match your role in wvw.
My elementalist spent ages in rares while in wvw. I didn’t have any problems
It’s more about builds and skill than stats.
Think of it this way. Two guys meet. One guy is a guy that lives on boons, another guy is a boon remover. Which guy wins that fight?
One guy is a condition spammer, one guy doesn’t have enough condition removal.
It’s very rare that two guys with equal builds will meet in WvW 1v1…and then what are they odds those guys have exactly equal skill.
Once, on my engineer, I ran into an enemy engineer, and we had nearly the same skill selection and it was a tough, very close fight.
But halfway through, a guy from my side showed up and it was game over for the other guy. It wouldn’t have mattered what gear he had.
I just don’t see this as an issue. Play the game, enjoy yourself, don’t worry so much..because you never even know what gear the other guy has.
I think a lot of people claim other people have better gear than them when they lose just to excuse the fact that they were beaten.
I’ve been playing an alt lately that I haven’t even bothered to collect exotic gear for yet. He’s in mostly rares with maybe two exotic pieces.
I find it perfectly playable. So much so that I still haven’t made the effort to kit him out in exotics (even though I have enough karma/WvW badges/gold/crafting mats to do it instantly).
OP you are not at a ‘severe disadvantage’ at all. A very slight disadvantage would be more accurate. A tiny disadvantage that can easily be overcome by outplaying your opponents.
Stop focusing on what you dont have yet and just play, you will still beat plenty of people rocking full ascended gear.
Seafarer’s Rest – Guild Leader The Deamon Army [TDA]
It’s a 3 point difference per piece….
It actually makes some builds weaker due to lack of customization, something called “Unique” item class, and Infusions in general just being total crap.
What a ridiculous thing to feel left out on. Where you really got left behind was, on your Finances. The inflation has just gone hog wild since this spring. (hope ya bought tons of gems before you took that break)
Well its not entirely true thakittens a tiny difference – Ascended has different setups to the stats than exotics. Which is very powerfull for some builds.
But as always, its mostly just the builds. When a player rolls you its more likely than not that he was the counter to your specific build, rather than being a “good player” or wearing “superior gear”. A berserker Thief stealth bursting a berserker anything is a prime example. WvW is RNG.
I have been a bit worried about more and more ascended gear being released myself. Although ascended only has, like, 7% or 6% higher stats total, this is for each individual stat. So they have 7% more power, 7% more toughness, 7% more precision all at the same time. Overall the effect is much bigger than anticipated, and we’ll see a further jump with ascended armor…
If ascended armor works that way as well. Something I heard mentioned once is that each item in the game, by design limitations, only has one equipment slot on it. Ascended items have only infusions, which are +5 of a stat; a rather low number. It could be that ascended items will be equivalent to an exotic + matching orb + 4% or something, while exotic equipment gets free reign in customization with runes and orbs themselves. So if true, that is good news.
More good news, though: I run around in WvW with full exotics and don’t have much of a problem. Most of what determines a fight in WvW is skill and builds, and not necessarily one player having higher stats than the other. Things like proper positioning and prediction have a much larger outcome on the battle than what the current ascended gear gives. I’ve never been able look into a crowd and just pick out who has ascended gear and who doesn’t, so the gain or loss of advantage isn’t obvious to the casual observer.
I don’t have opinions. I only have facts I can’t adequately prove.
You’re ok if you come back now. If this was after ascended armor was introduced and everyone else maxed out the guard killer line, then you’d be 100% correct. No vertical progression my kitten.
WvW is zerging around a map. Your gear is rather secondary to being in a mob. Just those trinkets really won’t make a difference there.
It’s a game forum. The truth is not to be found here.
Oh, boo-hoo. Crying on the forums before even attempting to obtain a piece. Typical.
Holycowow
I level up characters in WvW which are under levelled with the ^ sign on them who only have blue gear on…
Guess what? They hardly ever die and collect loads of loot bags by killing other players…
You argument is totally wrong and invalid…additional stats in GW2 really make very little difference in performance…
What has the most effect is player skill, dodging at the right time, choosing the correct traits/skills, knowing where to stand and particular to WvW being able to read the battlefield…
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