Guild Wars 2

So Legendary armor needs a way to save multiple runes to it otherwise the stat-swapping feature will be pointless. I think you should be able to add runes to the armor permanently or maybe there are a limited number of slots for each piece so like each armor can hold 3 types of runes and you’ll have to replace one if you want a 4th type at some point. I don’t know how it can work but something like that needs to be considered because for the same reason I never use stat swapping on my legendaries.

Then it’s the same issue legendary weapons would have at the moment.

I honestly just use some generic encounter sigils/runes for my equipment, but I guess min/maxers would have a problem with this. It’s far easier to have multiple exotic equipments with different sigils/runes than ascended or legendary.

Legendary items don’t lend themselves well to min/maxing.

Like ghost, my plan is to use versatile runes that are decent in all situations, just not really the best in anything particular. If I want to min/max I will make a specific set for that for whatever specific content I am planning to min/max.

Dinks.2478:

So Legendary armor needs a way to save multiple runes to it otherwise the stat-swapping feature will be pointless. I think you should be able to add runes to the armor permanently or maybe there are a limited number of slots snip

I support this rune library concept and the analogous sigil library for legendary weapons. Like the last 100 times it was suggested.

Frankly, I think we need to be able to store sigils/runes in Legendaries and be able to swap them, and then allow us to “salvage” the runes/sigils from Ascended equipment a la GW1 hero armor (In GW1, Hero Armor couldn’t be destroyed, and so when you salvaged it you would get the upgrades back while keeping the armor).

There are things in the gem store called upgrade exacters. They want you to buy them. So this will not happen. It’s simple, if you want it bad enough you’ll pay. If not you won’t.

BrotherBelial.3094:

There are things in the gem store called upgrade exacters. They want you to buy them. So this will not happen. It’s simple, if you want it bad enough you’ll pay. If not you won’t.

Most times (if not all the time) the price for 1 rune is less than that……Besides, this is most likely for dungeon running, and not so much random use, or lost sigil, so you dont need 7 daggers, or 3 GS etc.

zengara.8301:

BrotherBelial.3094:

There are things in the gem store called upgrade exacters. They want you to buy them. So this will not happen. It’s simple, if you want it bad enough you’ll pay. If not you won’t.

Most times (if not all the time) the price for 1 rune is less than that……Besides, this is most likely for dungeon running, and not so much random use, or lost sigil, so you dont need 7 daggers, or 3 GS etc.

Indeed. I’m still waiting for them to make a permanent one. Then I’ll probably buy one. Salvage runes to sell on the TP, and the exotic they come off. Win win in my book.

Upgrade extractors are useless and pretty much unrelated to this guys request.

being able to swap stats on legendary armor is almost useless if we cant swap the runes too ! ! !

dom.2748:

Upgrade extractors are useless and pretty much unrelated to this guys request.

All true, but the fact they exist points to ANet wanting you to buy them. If they did add a rune/sigil library to the legendary gear, people will start asking for a single rune and sigil to unlock on all pieces, then they’ll want it account wide. Priced on runes and sigils will end up in the toilet. No your right, this has nothing to do with his request.

BrotherBelial.3094:

dom.2748:

Upgrade extractors are useless and pretty much unrelated to this guys request.

All true, but the fact they exist points to ANet wanting you to buy them. If they did add a rune/sigil library to the legendary gear, people will start asking for a single rune and sigil to unlock on all pieces, then they’ll want it account wide. Priced on runes and sigils will end up in the toilet. No your right, this has nothing to do with his request.

prices on many runes and sigils are already there

Khisanth.2948:

BrotherBelial.3094:

dom.2748:

Upgrade extractors are useless and pretty much unrelated to this guys request.

All true, but the fact they exist points to ANet wanting you to buy them. If they did add a rune/sigil library to the legendary gear, people will start asking for a single rune and sigil to unlock on all pieces, then they’ll want it account wide. Priced on runes and sigils will end up in the toilet. No your right, this has nothing to do with his request.

prices on many runes and sigils are already there

True, but not everything can be BIS.

This suggestion has been brought up a few times in the past, and I’m always opposed to it.

Legendaries aren’t supposed to be better than the other “best in slot” items in the game. They’re just supposed to a fancy skin and a guarantee that those will always be best-in-slot no matter what else in the game changes.

The change to allow them to swap stats already gave them a distinct advantage over ascended gear, BUT I feel that change was at least justified since legendaries are such a massive time and gold sink and if you were stuck with only 1 stat combination it would be a huge disadvantage to commiting to a legendary. So give it a distinct advantage in order to prevent legendaries from having a large disadvantage, that’s fine.

Rune / Sigil swapping, on the other hand… that would just be a pure bonus. You can already swap sigils and runes on legendaries, the same way you can on any other piece of gear. Buy a new sigil / rune, slot it in and replace the old one. There’s no problem that needs to be “fixed” by allowing swappable upgrades, it would just be something to make legendaries outright better than other gear. Which isn’t the intention of legendaries in GW2.

Guys, no1 here is asking for a free ride. Not for one upgrade component to rule them all, not for all of them available without cost.

→ Just for a few slots in legendary equipment to put previously acquired runes/sigils in, to switch along with the stats, so the latter makes sense at all.

Don’t reject and bash a reasonable request for what was never asked.

Electro.4173:

This suggestion has been brought up a few times in the past, and I’m always opposed to it.

Legendaries aren’t supposed to be better than the other “best in slot” items in the game. They’re just supposed to a fancy skin and a guarantee that those will always be best-in-slot no matter what else in the game changes.

The change to allow them to swap stats already gave them a distinct advantage over ascended gear, BUT I feel that change was at least justified since legendaries are such a massive time and gold sink and if you were stuck with only 1 stat combination it would be a huge disadvantage to commiting to a legendary. So give it a distinct advantage in order to prevent legendaries from having a large disadvantage, that’s fine.

Rune / Sigil swapping, on the other hand… that would just be a pure bonus. You can already swap sigils and runes on legendaries, the same way you can on any other piece of gear. Buy a new sigil / rune, slot it in and replace the old one. There’s no problem that needs to be “fixed” by allowing swappable upgrades, it would just be something to make legendaries outright better than other gear. Which isn’t the intention of legendaries in GW2.

What are you talking about? The whole point is to be able to swap stats whenever you want. Otherwise it is no different than Ascended gear where I can swap my stats and still have to replace the runes. It is a legendary it doesn’t have to be better stats-wise but it still has to be better.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Khisanth.2948:

BrotherBelial.3094:

dom.2748:

Upgrade extractors are useless and pretty much unrelated to this guys request.

All true, but the fact they exist points to ANet wanting you to buy them. If they did add a rune/sigil library to the legendary gear, people will start asking for a single rune and sigil to unlock on all pieces, then they’ll want it account wide. Priced on runes and sigils will end up in the toilet. No your right, this has nothing to do with his request.

prices on many runes and sigils are already there

True, but not everything can be BIS.

Got the feeling legendary armor might be just as hard to get as legendary gear, or exceptionally harder, so just a piece counts like a legendary by itself. (Do not think we know that yet).

Price drop would not be visible if that is the case, far from it tbh, would be laughable if the sigils even dropped below 5-10 silvers, if they did so I would probably think it is more about inflation, than the legendary gears…..

Electro.4173:

This suggestion has been brought up a few times in the past, and I’m always opposed to it.

Legendaries aren’t supposed to be better than the other “best in slot” items in the game. They’re just supposed to a fancy skin and a guarantee that those will always be best-in-slot no matter what else in the game changes.

The change to allow them to swap stats already gave them a distinct advantage over ascended gear, BUT I feel that change was at least justified since legendaries are such a massive time and gold sink and if you were stuck with only 1 stat combination it would be a huge disadvantage to commiting to a legendary. So give it a distinct advantage in order to prevent legendaries from having a large disadvantage, that’s fine.

Rune / Sigil swapping, on the other hand… that would just be a pure bonus. You can already swap sigils and runes on legendaries, the same way you can on any other piece of gear. Buy a new sigil / rune, slot it in and replace the old one. There’s no problem that needs to be “fixed” by allowing swappable upgrades, it would just be something to make legendaries outright better than other gear. Which isn’t the intention of legendaries in GW2.

I gotta admit, this is true. But I still dont like having multiple gears for different occasions, having a gear set that could carry different sigils for dungeon runs or WvW/fractal swap would be great and less annoying.

Though it have been stated that Legendaries are simply cosmetic, but giving it different sigil slots does not affect the stats….. kinda hard. Again, I am all for the idea behind having to use less gear, but I get what you are referring to

Maybe…. JUST Maybe…. Legendary armors will have selectable STATS and RUNES!

MIND…..

BLOWN!

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Maybe…. JUST Maybe…. Legendary armors will have selectable STATS and RUNES!

MIND…..

BLOWN!

Maybe…. JUST Maybe…. Legendary weapons will (ever)have selectable STATS and SIGILLS!

MIND….

OH wait !!!

Easiest solution, in my opinion, would be to allow you to permanently add a rune/sigil to a legendary armor/weapon. If this does happen with legendary armor, gen 1 leg weapons should also be updated with the same function, just with sigils. It would make the stat swap seem more ‘worthwhile’.

Beat me, but I’ve got no clue what you are trying to say, FoRc ^^

dom.2748:

Electro.4173:

This suggestion has been brought up a few times in the past, and I’m always opposed to it.

Legendaries aren’t supposed to be better than the other “best in slot” items in the game. They’re just supposed to a fancy skin and a guarantee that those will always be best-in-slot no matter what else in the game changes.

The change to allow them to swap stats already gave them a distinct advantage over ascended gear, BUT I feel that change was at least justified since legendaries are such a massive time and gold sink and if you were stuck with only 1 stat combination it would be a huge disadvantage to commiting to a legendary. So give it a distinct advantage in order to prevent legendaries from having a large disadvantage, that’s fine.

Rune / Sigil swapping, on the other hand… that would just be a pure bonus. You can already swap sigils and runes on legendaries, the same way you can on any other piece of gear. Buy a new sigil / rune, slot it in and replace the old one. There’s no problem that needs to be “fixed” by allowing swappable upgrades, it would just be something to make legendaries outright better than other gear. Which isn’t the intention of legendaries in GW2.

What are you talking about? The whole point is to be able to swap stats whenever you want. Otherwise it is no different than Ascended gear where I can swap my stats and still have to replace the runes. It is a legendary it doesn’t have to be better stats-wise but it still has to be better.

No, the whole point was to be a nifty skin.
Nothing else.
The stat swapping was added later as a small convenience given how much work goes into them, although with transmutation available they really shouldn’t even have that if we’re honest.
Legendaries were supposed to be and promised to be a cosmetic advantage only.
We let the stat swapping slide because yeah okay for that much work having to pay for mute charges on top (plus an exotic weapon each time) to swap stats was a bit much (but remember that was based on the old system, not the wardrobe).
Now you could make 3 ascended swords and slap the Twilight skin on no problem, so the swapping is now a bit of a stretch, though I think most won’t complain because they want that themselves when they make one.
Yes, as I look at the work involved in finishing my own legendary I’d love to have a way to swap sigils/runes as well, but I have to admit that may be more of an advantage than legendaries should really have.

Plok.5873:

Dinks.2478:

So Legendary armor needs a way to save multiple runes to it otherwise the stat-swapping feature will be pointless. I think you should be able to add runes to the armor permanently or maybe there are a limited number of slots snip

I support this rune library concept and the analogous sigil library for legendary weapons. Like the last 100 times it was suggested.

would be cool, and would give a good reason to get a bounch of rune sets on one armour ^^