Guild Wars 2

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

So I suggest this: save the runes or sigils that are active on an item, during one stat. Then, when you change the stat to another, clear the slots either by returning the runes or sigils, or hiding them inside the item, clearing the slots. For example:

Sunrise:
Power
Precision
Ferocity
Superior Sigil of Strength
Super Sigil of Accuracy
[Warning: The following status combinations have obscured runes or sigils. These will not be active until they are activated (red text)]
:Cavalier

> Swap

Sunrise:
Power
Condition Damage
Toughness
Unused Upgrade Slot
Unused Upgrade Slot
[Warning: The following status combinations have obscured runes or sigils. These will not be active until they are activated (red text)]
:Berserker
:Cavalier

And in the stat change interview you can get the details of which runes and infusions are set to which stat

The above is my suggestion, but other suggestions or ideas may exist as well. Another idea would be to make a permanent extraction tool for the gem store, I think many raiders will buy it. (no, not the 2*150 gems every time I swap armor)

tbh i think they might have already found what they wonna do with sigils by now your suggestion is ok tho

zealex.9410:

tbh i think they might have already found what they wonna do with sigils by now your suggestion is ok tho

oh, did I miss a WP video?

no and i dont think wp wpuld make any vid its just that mo is sure about the armor.meaning the hardest part is over for them which i’d quess is the rune sigil swap system

zealex.9410:

no and i dont think wp wpuld make any vid its just that mo is sure about the armor.meaning the hardest part is over for them which i’d quess is the rune sigil swap system

you mean he said there’s not gonna be anything to change the runes/sigils?

Amaimon.7823:

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

Or perhaps part of the reason for the delay is ANet is working on changes to the underlying mechanics to prevent the predicament.

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

but the infusions are so minor when compared to the main stat and the runes, I mean, how many people even use them? sure, they’re good if you want to hit the maximum qty-numbers, but +4 power.. are you really gonna notice a number that small?
Sounds like it would make the difference of 15 seconds on a raid fight.. maybe not even

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

For mini/maxers yes for everyone else no.

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

Stat infusions already have a good solution available in game with the extractors.

Weapons and armor have the upgrade extractors, but those are gem store items and for the most part, not worth it.

I would be ok with the upgrade extractors being moved to the main game and have the gem cost removed.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

Or perhaps part of the reason for the delay is ANet is working on changes to the underlying mechanics to prevent the predicament.

did I miss a memo somewhere? you sound like something’s already in motion

It’s just gonna be purple animated armor with stat swap, no one in Anet has ever mentioned rune swap will be a feature

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

Or perhaps part of the reason for the delay is ANet is working on changes to the underlying mechanics to prevent the predicament.

I really hope this is the reason for the delay.

If not, the least Anet should do is to have runes be freely removed from armor when you stat swap it. It would be a pain, but considering the amount of work that goes into it, I do think players deserve at least that much if they use it.

Amaimon.7823:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

Or perhaps part of the reason for the delay is ANet is working on changes to the underlying mechanics to prevent the predicament.

did I miss a memo somewhere? you sound like something’s already in motion

What? How does “perhaps” translate into “already in motion?”

My point is that there are other scenarios beside the “predicament” assumed in this thread, specifically that perhaps, just maybe, possibly, that ANet has considered this obvious issue and is working on a solution. That seems at least as likely as the possibility that they are ignore it (despite it being brought up 2-3x/month) and much more likely than the idea that they are ignoring it.

Or as Shakespeare might have written

There are more things in Guild Wars 2, Amaimon,
Than are dreamt of in your original post.

Of course, if they ever did solve the runes issue, the legendary armor would start giving out a much bigger advantage. Which would mean that an alternate acquisition method would be even more needed.

Linken.6345:

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

For mini/maxers yes for everyone else no.

then everyonenelse wont bother about runes sigils too

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

you can take out infusions for a really small price tho.

Astralporing.1957:

Of course, if they ever did solve the runes issue, the legendary armor would start giving out a much bigger advantage. Which would mean that an alternate acquisition method would be even more needed.

Why though?
If legendary armor has a function that ascended armor does not have, then it’s only the reward for the effort you put it.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

Or perhaps part of the reason for the delay is ANet is working on changes to the underlying mechanics to prevent the predicament.

did I miss a memo somewhere? you sound like something’s already in motion

What? How does “perhaps” translate into “already in motion?”

A bit of an over reaction, don’t you think? I said you sounded like you knew something more than I did, so I asked if there was something I missed. if I didn’t, then it’s all chill as an egg, isn’t it?

zealex.9410:

Linken.6345:

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

For mini/maxers yes for everyone else no.

then everyone else wont bother about runes sigils too

I dunno, there seems to be a huge difference in value between:
+4 power
and
+10/250 power every kill (not that this specific rune is useful in raids, but you get my drift)

zealex.9410:

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

you can take out infusions for a really small price tho.

It’s faster and more convenient to swap to an alternate armor set than to extract infusions and reinstall news ones. If this is supposed to be aboUT convenience this isn’t very convenient.

Amaimon.7823:

Astralporing.1957:

Of course, if they ever did solve the runes issue, the legendary armor would start giving out a much bigger advantage. Which would mean that an alternate acquisition method would be even more needed.

Why though?
If legendary armor has a function that ascended armor does not have, then it’s only the reward for the effort you put it.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Amaimon.7823:

Legendary Armors will soon™ be upon us, but it will suffer from the same predicament the weapons and backpacks suffer from. Free stat choice, but complete denial for high end content like raids.

Or perhaps part of the reason for the delay is ANet is working on changes to the underlying mechanics to prevent the predicament.

did I miss a memo somewhere? you sound like something’s already in motion

What? How does “perhaps” translate into “already in motion?”

A bit of an over reaction, don’t you think? I said you sounded like you knew something more than I did, so I asked if there was something I missed. if I didn’t, then it’s all chill as an egg, isn’t it?

zealex.9410:

Linken.6345:

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

For mini/maxers yes for everyone else no.

then everyone else wont bother about runes sigils too

I dunno, there seems to be a huge difference in value between:
+4 power
and
+10/250 power every kill (not that this specific rune is useful in raids, but you get my drift)

its 5 power per infusion and 90 i think for the whole thing so its like walkimg around with 3 might stacks by default

NikeEU.7690:

zealex.9410:

NikeEU.7690:

Sigil and rune swap are meaningless if you can’t also swap Stat infusions. I suggest you stop thinking of legendaries as the replacement for all your other gear and just look at them as cosmetics with upside when a particular Stat set is no longer meta.

you can take out infusions for a really small price tho.

It’s faster and more convenient to swap to an alternate armor set than to extract infusions and reinstall news ones. If this is supposed to be about convenience this isn’t very convenient.

if you have those infusions in your other armor set yes it is just as easy. or are you comparing apples to oranges? you want to compare apples to apples it costs 75 gold currently to remove a sigil/rune it takes 24 silver to remove a infusion.