Guild Wars 2

No one said any thing about not having to get higher level Ascended and Legendaries when they raise the level cap. And they will as they have already stated.

So just because you get yourself fully decked out in Ascended and Legendary. Doesn’t mean it will be best in slot until the end of the game’s time.

Just a little foreshadowing for you all.

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

Ascended wouldn’t be the last tier but legendary will always upgrade to the highest possible tier.

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

Dont be silly.
Anet isn’t that stupid to get the wrath of by then loads of Legendary holders on their neck. A level 80 Legendary is worthless when the cap is 90. They will be easily upgradable.

Evans.6347:

Dont be silly.
Anet isn’t that stupid to get the wrath of by then loads of Legendary holders on their neck. A level 80 Legendary is worthless when the cap is 90. They will be easily upgradable.

Upgraded with a transmutation stone yes.

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

Dont be silly.
Anet isn’t that stupid to get the wrath of by then loads of Legendary holders on their neck. A level 80 Legendary is worthless when the cap is 90. They will be easily upgradable.

Upgraded with a transmutation stone yes.

That they will likely provide everyone for free.

Namu.5712:

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

Dont be silly.
Anet isn’t that stupid to get the wrath of by then loads of Legendary holders on their neck. A level 80 Legendary is worthless when the cap is 90. They will be easily upgradable.

Upgraded with a transmutation stone yes.

That they will likely provide everyone for free.

The stone maybe. Not the level 90 weapon (or armor when they come out).

You’re just being a sourpuss for the sake of it.
There is nothing that implies legendaries will ever be outdated, in fact all signs point against it.

I seem to remember Colin Johanson stating – with the post-ascended gear rage over treadmill yadda yadda – there wouldn’t be a gear treadmill beyond that. Of course, anyone can go back on their words, but at least they’re not planning to go that way…

“We specifically said we don’t want to get caught up in the trap where every 3-6 months the game adds another tier of gear to the game; that invalidates all your hard work and the rewards you’ve earned.”
Source: Blog post

now where is talk of increasing level cap coming from?

Evans.6347:

You’re just being a sourpuss for the sake of it.
There is nothing that implies legendaries will ever be outdated, in fact all signs point against it.

Before November patch, there was nothing that implied that exotics were ever to become outdated. In fact, all signs pointed against it.

Did they explicitly say that Exotics would always be the highest tier and would automatically be upgraded to reflect that? No.
But they did say that about Legendaries.

So please, don’t pull twisted points into this.

akamon.2769:

now where is talk of increasing level cap coming from?

They’ve mentioned it in several interviews. Then again, they mentioned expansions in those same interviews, so…

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

Actually they have said legendaries would always be BiS even with a level cap increase. Which isn’t likely to happen for the better part of the next year.

dekou.6012:

akamon.2769:

now where is talk of increasing level cap coming from?

They’ve mentioned it in several interviews. Then again, they mentioned expansions in those same interviews, so…

They’ve mentioned increasing level cap in several interviews? Quote / link please

Evans.6347:

Did they explicitly say that Exotics would always be the highest tier and would automatically be upgraded to reflect that? No.
But they did say that about Legendaries.

So please, don’t pull twisted points into this.

They also explicitly said about no grind, and here we have gear grind, gold grind and material grind.

Get real.

Now if someone comes in and drags the manifesto in this and another one cries Mary Sue then we have the entire holy trinity of the forum here. ¬.¬

Zplus.4217:

They also explicitly said about no grind, and here we have gear grind, gold grind and material grind.

Get real.

Incorrect. They said no MANDATORY grind in order to enjoy the game.
There is currently not a single thing you NEED to grind in order to do content in the game.

lordkrall.7241:

Zplus.4217:

They also explicitly said about no grind, and here we have gear grind, gold grind and material grind.

Get real.

Incorrect. They said no MANDATORY grind in order to enjoy the game.
There is currently not a single thing you NEED to grind in order to do content in the game.

Technically, sure.

But seriously? It’s in the game. Let’s be real.

akamon.2769:

now where is talk of increasing level cap coming from?

From Anet, already announced last year.

http://www.gamefront.com/guild-wars-2-level-cap-raise-confirmed-for-future/

oh kitten :O

Chuo.4238:

Technically, sure.

But seriously? It’s in the game. Let’s be real.

Indeed, the OPTIONAL grind is in the game. I see no mandatory grind however.

Gehenna.3625:

From Anet, already announced last year.

http://www.gamefront.com/guild-wars-2-level-cap-raise-confirmed-for-future/

That isn’t really a confirmation though.
All he says is that they are EXPECTING to raise the level cap in the future.

lordkrall.7241:

Gehenna.3625:

From Anet, already announced last year.

http://www.gamefront.com/guild-wars-2-level-cap-raise-confirmed-for-future/

That isn’t really a confirmation though.
All he says is that they are EXPECTING to raise the level cap in the future.

Which tells me that they plan to do it unless the world ends or NCSoft randomly shuts them down like they did City of Heroes. In which case they can say, at least, that they technically didn’t lie.

:P

Ok kiddies like me shed some light for u all.

Legendary gear will always be top tier even if they increase the lvl cap since they now made them more for looks.

Ascended is and will be the only tier under legendary.

Grind is the core of all mmos u had to grind lvls right u had to do dungeons and other things to get the armor look u want right, so u had to grind. Anets grind for gw2 is very small compared to other mmos stop bringing that pointless thing up.

Once patch hits unless Legendary weapons get better stats than ascended when u chose the stats u want the weapons will be only for looks and the ability to change the stats.

Now for those still saying anet said no grind well guess what. you dont have to do it. u can do all the content of the game in rare gear.

Ty have a good patch day and enjoy sab.

Arcalas.9368:

Ok kiddies like me shed some light for u all.

Legendary gear will always be top tier even if they increase the lvl cap since they now made them more for looks.

Ascended is and will be the only tier under legendary.

Grind is the core of all mmos u had to grind lvls right u had to do dungeons and other things to get the armor look u want right, so u had to grind. Anets grind for gw2 is very small compared to other mmos stop bringing that pointless thing up.

Once patch hits unless Legendary weapons get better stats than ascended when u chose the stats u want the weapons will be only for looks and the ability to change the stats.

Now for those still saying anet said no grind well guess what. you dont have to do it. u can do all the content of the game in rare gear.

Ty have a good patch day and enjoy sab.

Well you’re wrong on a few things.

They never said Ascended will be the final tier of gear. They said they will not add another tier of gear this year, as in 2013. Now tell us why they won’t say they will never another tier of gear ever? Seems a bit odd that they only say 2013, instead of ever. Meaning next year, they could add a new tier if they wanted cause they only said they wouldn’t add one in 2013, not ever.

And the grind in GW2 is not smaller than other MMOs, sorry. In another MMO, I can go run a dungeon and my gear can drop. Nice, I just got my gear with hardly any grind. But in GW2, I have to collect 500 of this, 300 of this, 250 of that, etc etc. And I am time gated and content gated. Sorry but that is way more grind than other MMOs that are on par with GW2 (I say on par, cause GW2 is supposed to be a AAA MMORPG, not some F2P cheap MMORPG).

And you do realize everything in this game is optional right? The whole “you don’t have to do it” is irrelevant. This game was designed and advertised as a cosmetic game. When you put those cosmetics behind a grind, then your game becomes about grind. It doesn’t matter if it is not needed. GW2 is a cosmetic game. It was advertised that way. The main goal of GW2 is getting cosmetics. They put those cosmetics behind a grind, so the main goal of GW2 is to now grind. Which goes against their whole “We don’t make grindy games” philosphy, when your main feature of the game is a grind.

Chuo.4238:

Which tells me that they plan to do it unless the world ends or NCSoft randomly shuts them down like they did City of Heroes. In which case they can say, at least, that they technically didn’t lie.

:P

And yet they have never actually confirmed that it will happen. They just want to keep the possibility open.

lordkrall.7241:

Gehenna.3625:

From Anet, already announced last year.

http://www.gamefront.com/guild-wars-2-level-cap-raise-confirmed-for-future/

That isn’t really a confirmation though.
All he says is that they are EXPECTING to raise the level cap in the future.

Take it as you will. They can always change their mind…about anything. They can also change their mind on making more tiers of gear or implementing a full treadmill after all.

Why? Because as a company they will have to go where the money is. Do you seriously think that if China is a success and they want more tiers, that Anet will just say no? Do you seriously think that if they were to lose more players again to the point where it gets critical, they might not reconsider what’s needed to keep the game alive?

I am not saying it will happen but I don’t think you can treat their statements as final to that point either. They are planning it. Usually people stick to their plan but anything can change. We might end up not getting additional levels but more tiers of gear instead for all we know. It just depends on what the future brings really.

^ Of course. Which is also why they have never said that Ascended will be the last tier added.

fellyn.5083:

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

Actually they have said legendaries would always be BiS even with a level cap increase. Which isn’t likely to happen for the better part of the next year.

No, they said the legendary tier will be always equal to any new tier. They said nothing about the levels. It means that any level 80 legendary will be equal to level 80 ascended. If they were to increase tiers, level 80 legendary would become equal to level 80 “ascended 2.0”. If they were to increase level cap however, it’s entirely possible that current legendaries would still be equal to level 80 ascended, and new level 90 legendaries would appear. They haven’t said they won’t do that, after all.

If levels are increased to say lvl 100 then ANY legendary weapon will be automatically upgraded to 100 and equal the best stats of whichever tier is the current top.

Your time and effort to get a legendary will never be for nothing…no worries…

So when the mythical (level 90) 2014 tier is announced your legendary gets upgraded again and in 2015 when the gods of Tyria (level 100) tier is announced your legendary is once again updated.

The only place this is really an issue is wvw. You can’t wvw in rare gear, and you certainly won’t be able to wvw in Ascended, ESPECIALLY after armor comes out, but even with just weapons.

Anet needs to fix this immediately because it’s almost game(type?)-breaking, tbh. It’s also completely imbalanced. Eles need one weapon. Warrior? You’re looking at 4-5-6 weapons needed. That’s insane. Then rangers take an even greater damage nerf because their pet damage isn’t scaling up as well. It’s ridiculous.

Pretty much as stated above.

The only people who actually NEED to farm this stuff are WvWers. It’s just like buying Car parts. The average joe doesn’t need the latest engine pumps and fuel processing device and lighting technology, unless he’s an enthusiast. But if you work in the industry of car modifications and you work in one of those companies where they have those flashy modded cars you can hire out, you HAVE to have top notch stuff to meet the competition.

Outside of WvW, it’s just nice to have and nothing more, really.

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Pretty much as stated above.

The only people who actually NEED to farm this stuff are WvWers. It’s just like buying Car parts. The average joe doesn’t need the latest engine pumps and fuel processing device and lighting technology, unless he’s an enthusiast. But if you work in the industry of car modifications and you work in one of those companies where they have those flashy modded cars you can hire out, you HAVE to have top notch stuff to meet the competition.

Outside of WvW, it’s just nice to have and nothing more, really.

LF1M for CoF path 1 super ultra speed run. Must have Ascended weapons to clear faster with. Ping gear upon join.

Azure Prower.8701:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Pretty much as stated above.

The only people who actually NEED to farm this stuff are WvWers. It’s just like buying Car parts. The average joe doesn’t need the latest engine pumps and fuel processing device and lighting technology, unless he’s an enthusiast. But if you work in the industry of car modifications and you work in one of those companies where they have those flashy modded cars you can hire out, you HAVE to have top notch stuff to meet the competition.

Outside of WvW, it’s just nice to have and nothing more, really.

LF1M for CoF path 1 super ultra speed run. Must have Ascended weapons to clear faster with. Ping gear upon join.

Elitists will always be elitists and therefore do not count.

Again, you can still do CoF probably in rares, quite frankly. I would go Exotics just to be safe. But once people start nabbing ascended weapons off the TP, whilst it won’t be majorly a problem in terms of Zerging, small groups and skirmishes.. Yeah.. I’m gonna feel that tonight.

Azure Prower.8701:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Pretty much as stated above.

The only people who actually NEED to farm this stuff are WvWers. It’s just like buying Car parts. The average joe doesn’t need the latest engine pumps and fuel processing device and lighting technology, unless he’s an enthusiast. But if you work in the industry of car modifications and you work in one of those companies where they have those flashy modded cars you can hire out, you HAVE to have top notch stuff to meet the competition.

Outside of WvW, it’s just nice to have and nothing more, really.

LF1M for CoF path 1 super ultra speed run. Must have Ascended weapons to clear faster with. Ping gear upon join.

ya how is that any different then LFM Warrior x 4 and a mesmer Ping gear must be zerker blah blah blah

Hell ive even seen LFM 5k achieve or higher.

Its not the gear, the professions or anything its the players that act like kitten hats.

But heres the best part there are thousands of players that aren’t like that looking for groups.

Or better yet you can create your very own! what a concept!

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Azure Prower.8701:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Pretty much as stated above.

The only people who actually NEED to farm this stuff are WvWers. It’s just like buying Car parts. The average joe doesn’t need the latest engine pumps and fuel processing device and lighting technology, unless he’s an enthusiast. But if you work in the industry of car modifications and you work in one of those companies where they have those flashy modded cars you can hire out, you HAVE to have top notch stuff to meet the competition.

Outside of WvW, it’s just nice to have and nothing more, really.

LF1M for CoF path 1 super ultra speed run. Must have Ascended weapons to clear faster with. Ping gear upon join.

Elitists will always be elitists and therefore do not count.

Again, you can still do CoF probably in rares, quite frankly. I would go Exotics just to be safe. But once people start nabbing ascended weapons off the TP, whilst it won’t be majorly a problem in terms of Zerging, small groups and skirmishes.. Yeah.. I’m gonna feel that tonight.

people have done cof naked

Hmm… I’m not even sure if a level cap increase makes sense. I’ve already pocketed enough experience to be level 300+, so adding levels for the sake of adding levels seems to be a lot of wasted efforts with rebalancing the game, etc.

I’d be quite content with 80 forever… there’s already enough new content every couple weeks keeping things fresh.

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

It has been stated the Legendaries will always be on par with BiS, by several people at Anet. They have been asked many times, because of the concern you bring up.

Just as Legendaries are being boosted from exotic to ascended with these updates, should they add additional tiers if/when they boost the level cap, Legendaries will again get the stat boosts.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

It has been stated the Legendaries will always be on par with BiS, by several people at Anet. They have been asked many times, because of the concern you bring up.

Just as Legendaries are being boosted from exotic to ascended with these updates, should they add additional tiers if/when they boost the level cap, Legendaries will again get the stat boosts.

Yes. Level 80 Legendaries will always be on par with level 80 best in slot.
Level 90 Legendaries will always be on par with level 90 best in slot.

See how that works?

Azure Prower.8701:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

It has been stated the Legendaries will always be on par with BiS, by several people at Anet. They have been asked many times, because of the concern you bring up.

Just as Legendaries are being boosted from exotic to ascended with these updates, should they add additional tiers if/when they boost the level cap, Legendaries will again get the stat boosts.

Yes. Level 80 Legendaries will always be on par with level 80 best in slot.
Level 90 Legendaries will always be on par with level 90 best in slot.

See how that works?

You’re grasping at straws here. “Always BiS” means level doesn’t matter, period. Whether that BiS is lvl 80 ascended or lvl 90 revered, legendary will match whatever the current top it.

I really wish the search function worked better, I’d find you the quote.

Kind of pointless and baseless speculation at best your saying they will up the level cap and add in more gear for it that is higher then Ascended. First you know nothing if they will up the level cap next you know nothing if they are going to add in a higher level of gear if they do.
Even if they did raise the level cap you do not know how they will do it it could be a sub class type deal where your true level becomes your sub class level + your main class level, it could be an added job that defines your class better it could be more like the MF system they are adding in more of an over lay leveling system.
Your line of logic you could come to the conclusion that they did not say the day before they are cutting the game off the next day so they must be doing so every day every hr etc… do you not see the flaw in your point of view?

Azure Prower.8701:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Azure Prower.8701:

Evans.6347:

I’m fairly sure at least legendaries will level along, either automatically or by a simple MF recipe.

They said Legendaries are currently best in slot. They said nothing about it being best in slot for level 90.

It has been stated the Legendaries will always be on par with BiS, by several people at Anet. They have been asked many times, because of the concern you bring up.

Just as Legendaries are being boosted from exotic to ascended with these updates, should they add additional tiers if/when they boost the level cap, Legendaries will again get the stat boosts.

Yes. Level 80 Legendaries will always be on par with level 80 best in slot.
Level 90 Legendaries will always be on par with level 90 best in slot.

See how that works?

This is correct.

In almost every game, a level cap increase will reduce the gear you own as obsolete. The only items that retain any value are items that were availble only temporarily, like skins or minis. This is not gloom and doom, it’s always been like that.

A level cap increase is horrible. Shrouded by flashy new content, it’s the epitome of grind. A forced “fresh start” you never asked for, and never wanted in the first place. The person that can bug/grind their way to the “new level cap” will have the advantage, whereas it will take months for the rest to catch up. Why? Because all the methods they used will be patched by the time you are halfway there, too.

[And in the meantime, you find stuff out like “huh, you need to be level 90 to craft the new legendary precursor and sell it on the TP? But I’m only level 85? How did they get there so fast! And why is it selling for so much? And how did they get all these tier 8 materials so fast, that shouldn’t be possible? Huh, what, it’s because of a buggy node in that level 90 area I can’t visit yet?” Etcetera]

Level caps are a grinder’s dream, and the nightmare of anyone who owns more than one character. Or anyone that has a job and a family, basically.

VOLKON.1290:

Hmm… I’m not even sure if a level cap increase makes sense. I’ve already pocketed enough experience to be level 300+, so adding levels for the sake of adding levels seems to be a lot of wasted efforts with rebalancing the game, etc.

I’d be quite content with 80 forever… there’s already enough new content every couple weeks keeping things fresh.

It goes hand in hand with new direction of vertical progression and gear treadmill.

MikaHR.1978:

VOLKON.1290:

Hmm… I’m not even sure if a level cap increase makes sense. I’ve already pocketed enough experience to be level 300+, so adding levels for the sake of adding levels seems to be a lot of wasted efforts with rebalancing the game, etc.

I’d be quite content with 80 forever… there’s already enough new content every couple weeks keeping things fresh.

It goes hand in hand with new direction of vertical progression and gear treadmill.

Ah, since there’s no actual gear treadmill then I guess we don’t need to sweat this. Thanks for the info!