Guild Wars 2

So as the title suggests, what exactly is the point of leveling after 80? We don’t receive a Spirit Shard or even a Hero Point so why is the experience bar even there? I understand that it will be part of the mastery system when HoT comes out but until then it just feels like a lot of wasted xp. I think this system should have instead been rolled out when HoT releases. It would be much better now if we did receive a Spirit Shard after leveling up. Thoughts?

Weeell…

Yes.

Right now it’s just giving you the ability to use a tome of knowledge and get a spirit shard.

I tend to level up in wvw, right before a ganker group or the enemy zerg is about to kill me, then bang, full health and knockback, free to go.

Especially exciting next to a high cliff.

Wanze.8410:

I tend to level up in wvw, right before a ganker group or the enemy zerg is about to kill me, then bang, full health and knockback, free to go.

Especially exciting next to a high cliff.

xD Lol I had a level up during wvw as well. I’m like . . . :O because I was about to die. xD

So all the levels I’ve accrued past 80 since the change have netted me nothing? Are they trying to create an artificial supply drop in mystic weapons on the trading post? Because the lack of spirit shards to create forged weapons is going to have an affect much like the Unidentified Dye drop change… everything will get more expensive. And those of us who usually net several levels a day, which should equate to several skill points or the equivelant spirit shards, are the ones losing out here. ANet, I hope you are keeping track of all those lost spirit shards we should be accruing in the background and intend to reimburse us eventually.

Grootella.1270:

So all the levels I’ve accrued past 80 since the change have netted me nothing? Are they trying to create an artificial supply drop in mystic weapons on the trading post? Because the lack of spirit shards to create forged weapons is going to have an affect much like the Unidentified Dye drop change… everything will get more expensive. And those of us who usually net several levels a day, which should equate to several skill points or the equivelant spirit shards, are the ones losing out here. ANet, I hope you are keeping track of all those lost spirit shards we should be accruing in the background and intend to reimburse us eventually.

I hope this is the case! Those Mystic Clovers aren’t going to make themselves!

Leveling currently doesn’t have a clear use as the game is between the old system and the new one that will come with the expansion. It will have a use when the Mastery system is put in place as leveling after reaching 80 will allow you to train Masteries. Unles they change what they’ve already said about spirit shards, leveling will never give you those.

Did level after 80 really have a point before the patch? Seriously, I had hundreds of skill points that we never used before the changes. Now you get shards as drops, I still have hundreds of shards that probably will never get used. I don’t see why people are making such a big deal out of this.

Julie Yann.5379:

Did level after 80 really have a point before the patch? Seriously, I had hundreds of skill points that we never used before the changes. Now you get shards as drops, I still have hundreds of shards that probably will never get used. I don’t see why people are making such a big deal out of this.

Because clearly other people consume skill points/shards on a more regular basis than you.

Last year, i made an average of 3g profit for skillpoints by promoting t1 common mats and used up thousands of skill points in the process. Some people craft superior siege for wvw on a regular basis, craft lots of legendaries or ascended gear.

Wanze.8410:

Julie Yann.5379:

Did level after 80 really have a point before the patch? Seriously, I had hundreds of skill points that we never used before the changes. Now you get shards as drops, I still have hundreds of shards that probably will never get used. I don’t see why people are making such a big deal out of this.

Because clearly other people consume skill points/shards on a more regular basis than you.

Last year, i made an average of 3g profit for skillpoints by promoting t1 common mats and used up thousands of skill points in the process. Some people craft superior siege for wvw on a regular basis, craft lots of legendaries or ascended gear.

But you still get shards, I get them from drops fairly regularly and you get them from dailies as well. Shard supply hasn’t changed with the patch, I just get them differently.

Julie Yann.5379:

Wanze.8410:

Julie Yann.5379:

Did level after 80 really have a point before the patch? Seriously, I had hundreds of skill points that we never used before the changes. Now you get shards as drops, I still have hundreds of shards that probably will never get used. I don’t see why people are making such a big deal out of this.

Because clearly other people consume skill points/shards on a more regular basis than you.

Last year, i made an average of 3g profit for skillpoints by promoting t1 common mats and used up thousands of skill points in the process. Some people craft superior siege for wvw on a regular basis, craft lots of legendaries or ascended gear.

But you still get shards, I get them from drops fairly regularly and you get them from dailies as well. Shard supply hasn’t changed with the patch, I just get them differently.

Last year, i would make at least 10 per day (and also use 10 per day), i didnt really adjust my play style but i get far less than that now (I also stopped using them for profit since they announced HoT, so i built up a nice supply in the last 6 months).

Wanze.8410:

Julie Yann.5379:

Wanze.8410:

Julie Yann.5379:

Did level after 80 really have a point before the patch? Seriously, I had hundreds of skill points that we never used before the changes. Now you get shards as drops, I still have hundreds of shards that probably will never get used. I don’t see why people are making such a big deal out of this.

Because clearly other people consume skill points/shards on a more regular basis than you.

Last year, i made an average of 3g profit for skillpoints by promoting t1 common mats and used up thousands of skill points in the process. Some people craft superior siege for wvw on a regular basis, craft lots of legendaries or ascended gear.

But you still get shards, I get them from drops fairly regularly and you get them from dailies as well. Shard supply hasn’t changed with the patch, I just get them differently.

Last year, i would make at least 10 per day (and also use 10 per day), i didnt really adjust my play style but i get far less than that now (I also stopped using them for profit since they announced HoT, so i built up a nice supply in the last 6 months).

As Wanze and others are pointing out you dont seem to get them as often now, if you ran dungeon paths you got almost 1 each path and cant say i do that now drop from bags seems to have gone down aswell.

i feel like there needs to be… something. a 200 point luck bonus to your account? some kind of karma credit?
i’m guessing they can’t do spirit shards because that would upset their ideal market, but cmon, give us something… or just freeze exp at 80 until it has a purpose again.

Julie Yann.5379:

Wanze.8410:

Julie Yann.5379:

Did level after 80 really have a point before the patch? Seriously, I had hundreds of skill points that we never used before the changes. Now you get shards as drops, I still have hundreds of shards that probably will never get used. I don’t see why people are making such a big deal out of this.

Because clearly other people consume skill points/shards on a more regular basis than you.

Last year, i made an average of 3g profit for skillpoints by promoting t1 common mats and used up thousands of skill points in the process. Some people craft superior siege for wvw on a regular basis, craft lots of legendaries or ascended gear.

But you still get shards, I get them from drops fairly regularly and you get them from dailies as well. Shard supply hasn’t changed with the patch, I just get them differently.

Since the patch i have gotten ONE shard from drops .. while i had maybe
100+ level ups. ONE lousy shard instead of 100 ..

I’m not even sure where my shards are coming from but they still seem to be going up steadily even though I don’t notice them as drops, I got a feeling that they just enter your wallet without being seen sometimes, guess that’s why they called spirit shards, cos you don’t always see them :P

Julie Yann.5379:

But you still get shards, I get them from drops fairly regularly and you get them from dailies as well. Shard supply hasn’t changed with the patch, I just get them differently.

This is completely untrue, they eliminated the biggest sources of “shards” skill/hero points and level ups. I rarely get shards as drops… either my character is bugged or people are thinking they get them as drops more than they do. I have only actually noticed 2 shards as drops in world since the patch. I’ve opened hundreds of champ bags and have only gotten 2 shards so far. Haven’t noticed any dropping from random mobs, and if they have there couldn’t be very many since I do dailies every day and have pretty close to the number of shards I’ve gotten from dailies.

Vavume.8065:

I’m not even sure where my shards are coming from but they still seem to be going up steadily even though I don’t notice them as drops, I got a feeling that they just enter your wallet without being seen sometimes, guess that’s why they called spirit shards, cos you don’t always see them :P

You get three when you complete your dailies. They aren’t always easy to spot from drops or champ bags.

Back to the topic though, aren’t we currently getting a hero point when we level up past 80? I haven’t bothered to check, but I thought that was in effect now.

Briadonis.8907:

Julie Yann.5379:

But you still get shards, I get them from drops fairly regularly and you get them from dailies as well. Shard supply hasn’t changed with the patch, I just get them differently.

This is completely untrue, they eliminated the biggest sources of “shards” skill/hero points and level ups. I rarely get shards as drops… either my character is bugged or people are thinking they get them as drops more than they do. I have only actually noticed 2 shards as drops in world since the patch. I’ve opened hundreds of champ bags and have only gotten 2 shards so far. Haven’t noticed any dropping from random mobs, and if they have there couldn’t be very many since I do dailies every day and have pretty close to the number of shards I’ve gotten from dailies.

Maybe it’s the type on game mode. My in game activities are pretty much PvP, Fractals, WvW, SW, World Bosses (in that order) and I have no shortage of shards.

rhapsody.3615:

Vavume.8065:

I’m not even sure where my shards are coming from but they still seem to be going up steadily even though I don’t notice them as drops, I got a feeling that they just enter your wallet without being seen sometimes, guess that’s why they called spirit shards, cos you don’t always see them :P

You get three when you complete your dailies. They aren’t always easy to spot from drops or champ bags.

Back to the topic though, aren’t we currently getting a hero point when we level up past 80? I haven’t bothered to check, but I thought that was in effect now.

No. Hero points are only gained by leveling to 80 and doing Hero Challenges. Part of the excess of Hero points that level 80s have will be used to unlock an Elite Specialization and the rest of the Hero Points will become a currency. Currently leveling past 80 does nothing but after the expansion starts, leveling will be the way used to train Mastery Tracks.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/ready-up-core-specializations-summary/
“Excess Hero Points beyond the number required for unlocks will be converted into a currency, which will be stored in the account-wide wallet. More information on the currency will come at a later date, so keep an eye out!”

Just played for about 90 minutes. Started with 843shard. I did 1 SW event chain, 1 Karka Queen, 1 Golem Mark II and some goofing around in LA. I now have 849. That is 6 shards in 90 minutes. I wonder if drop rates are affect by MF? I’m usually running with 250+.

Julie Yann.5379:

Maybe it’s the type on game mode. My in game activities are pretty much PvP, Fractals, WvW, SW, World Bosses (in that order) and I have no shortage of shards.

I’ve been doing map completion (for some more legendaries), world bosses, edge of the mists, fractals and silverwastes (in that order). Only thing I don’t really do is PvP.

My base magic find is about 200%.

there’ll be a point with HoT, you’ll have masteries that replace your level number for all others to see, as well as give you abilities to continue on in maguuma.

I did map completion for 11 zones in the past 3 days… a bunch of events… killed lots of stuff for hearts… got no spirit shards as drops… I did Tequatl multiple times and Shadow Behemoth. I did a fractal run on the day that the daily was 21-30 fractal… and I did edge of the mists for a couple hours to get a keep the day that was a daily. I only got the 3 shards for daily each day. Not sure what you are doing that is getting you these shards.

I started out with about 120 shards on June 24. I now have 187. I got 5 for a birthday gift on one of my characters and 3 a day (3×20) for dailies. I am aware of 2 drops of shards from champ bags… that would put me at… 187. Wow right on the dot.

Briadonis.8907:

I did map completion for 11 zones in the past 3 days… a bunch of events… killed lots of stuff for hearts… got no spirit shards as drops… I did Tequatl multiple times and Shadow Behemoth. I did a fractal run on the day that the daily was 21-30 fractal… and I did edge of the mists for a couple hours to get a keep the day that was a daily. I only got the 3 shards for daily each day. Not sure what you are doing that is getting you these shards.

I started out with about 120 shards on June 24. I now have 187. I got 5 for a birthday gift on one of my characters and 3 a day (3×20) for dailies. I am aware of 2 drops of shards from champ bags… that would put me at… 187. Wow right on the dot.

I guess the RNG god lady likes me.