Guild Wars 2

So I recently started playing GW2 again & am finally hitting walls from not having the expansion. up until now, I was interested crafting legendaries & invested heavily into the trades only to find out I need to Obtain Revered Antiquarian, the first rank in the Legendary Crafting mastery track. Looking into what the heck that is I find out its locked: Upgrade to Heart of Thorns… Kind of annoying since crafting has been a thing since before the expansion—fine, whatever!

I fist want to know if im right in saying any crafting precursor cannot be made; & unless I buy the weapon, Im limited to ascended. Second, has anything else in similar fashion been taken away from the original gw2 account players? This thread “here” describes a similar complaint, but it only expresses frustration to added features that should be available to non-upgrading players. Personally, Im fine w/ not having new features—keep ur guild halls & silly gliders—but blocking access to old features without warning kinda hurts!

ciclibera.3879:

Vayne.8563:

New legendaries can’t be made. Old legendaries can be.

Yargesh.4965:

You can ‘make’ a precursor exactly the same way you could ‘make’ a precursor before HoT was released. Craft weapon of choice either rare or exotic and throw it into the Mystic Forge

Red Queen.7915:

The precursor crafting was also not “taken away” from anyone since it didn’t exist beforehand. It was added with HoT, as a HoT feature.

hmm so im confused & misinformed. I thought crafting back in the day was for creating Legendaries like “this” thread explains.

TheBlueI: What’s the purpose of crafting in GW2?
SuburbanLion: One word: Legendaries. The Legendary weapons require crafted items which are account bound. So to get one, you’ll need to level up at least 2 crafting professions to 400.

Now, if Yargesh and Red Queen is right, what did SuburbanLion mean 3 years ago?
And Vayne, how is crafting a legendary possible now? Every recipe stems from Grandmaster Craftsman Hobbs (requiring masteries) or achievements (requiring… masteries). So far, it sounds like the only reason to master crafting previously was to craft exotics & throw them into the mystic dump hoping a pre will pop out? Bummer!

I believe you misunderstand. The new “Legendary crafting” is simply the precursor. Previously precursors could only be optioned via drops or the mystic forge. With HoT the option to craft a precursor was added. What SuburbanLion meant by crafting is that each legendary requires a certain gift which is from crafting. Such as Gift of metal (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gift_of_Metal). These have been in the game since legendaries were released and the old legendaries required at least 2of these types of gifts which were unique to the legendary.

New legendaries can’t be made. Old legendaries can be. But as a free to play player I don’t think you can buy a precursor from the TP, so you’d have to be massively lucky and get one as a drop or play the mystic forge for one, which also requires a lot of luck.

You can ‘make’ a precursor exactly the same way you could ‘make’ a precursor before HoT was released. Craft weapon of choice either rare or exotic and throw it into the Mystic Forge. Odds are not huge but no one is stopping you. The crafting option you get with HoT is frankly long, expensive and you are still better off crafting 3 or 4 ascended weapons of choice with different stats and using them, the legendary skins are very much a personal taste type thing.

Well, the “silly guild halls” are now the only way to get access to guild buffs (though that system is messed up in a number of ways, imo), so yeah, that’s something “taken away” (depending on the individual; my bank guild never had buffs running, so the people who are exclusively in that guild never had anything “taken away”).

As for the precursor crafting, that’s HoT exclusive, but only the crafting process itself. Old precursors can still be looted, forged, and bought and sold. The ones that can’t be are the new ones (for H.O.P.E., Astralaria and Nevermore), which are, as precursors and finished legendary weapons, account bound and thus require HoT to be obtained. Like all new skins do.
The precursor crafting was also not “taken away” from anyone since it didn’t exist beforehand. It was added with HoT, as a HoT feature.

ciclibera.3879:

Second, has anything else in similar fashion been taken away from the original gw2 account players?

Legendary Crafting was never in “original gw2” so there is no taking away something from you. Crafting Legendary Weapons is very expansive in the most cases it is cheaper to just buy them in the TP so you don’t miss out on something useful.

TL,DR: If you haven’t bought Heart of Thorns…..
BUY HEART OF THORNS ONLY 300000 GEMS FRIEND PRICE!!! :P

Serious though, haven’t found a reason to yet.

Vayne.8563:

New legendaries can’t be made. Old legendaries can be.

Yargesh.4965:

You can ‘make’ a precursor exactly the same way you could ‘make’ a precursor before HoT was released. Craft weapon of choice either rare or exotic and throw it into the Mystic Forge

Red Queen.7915:

The precursor crafting was also not “taken away” from anyone since it didn’t exist beforehand. It was added with HoT, as a HoT feature.

hmm so im confused & misinformed. I thought crafting back in the day was for creating Legendaries like “this” thread explains.

TheBlueI: What’s the purpose of crafting in GW2?
SuburbanLion: One word: Legendaries. The Legendary weapons require crafted items which are account bound. So to get one, you’ll need to level up at least 2 crafting professions to 400.

Now, if Yargesh and Red Queen is right, what did SuburbanLion mean 3 years ago?
And Vayne, how is crafting a legendary possible now? Every recipe stems from Grandmaster Craftsman Hobbs (requiring masteries) or achievements (requiring… masteries). So far, it sounds like the only reason to master crafting previously was to craft exotics & throw them into the mystic dump hoping a pre will pop out? Bummer!

Legendaries were always craftable via the forge with some stages using actual crafting,

The confusion is not legendary crafting changing, but that HoT introduced precursor crafting. That is the only addition to the system. The system for non HoT players is the same as it ever was for the original legendaries, but you can only obtain a precursor via a drop, the tp or the forge as it always used to be.

Grandmaster Hobbs only gives recipes for the precursor crafting, which leads to making a legendary. He is also the only way you can get a precursor for the new legendaries.

Crafting is still relevant for the later stages of the legendary

Randulf.7614:

Legendaries were always craftable via the forge with some stages using actual crafting,

okay, cool. So what stages?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_weapon

ciclibera.3879:

Randulf.7614:

Legendaries were always craftable via the forge with some stages using actual crafting,

okay, cool. So what stages?

The legendary weapons would be “crafted” in the sense that you would need a precursor and three gifts – those are the parts that would actually be crafted by weaponsmiths, artificers etc. The precursors were the one part that couldn’t be crafted.
Since precursors have notoriously lousy drop rates, and getting them from the mystic forge is a gamble that pays off for very few people, HoT introduced a way to get a precursor through crafting, just like the other three parts of the final weapon.

http://gw2legendary.com/ This website breaks it down pretty well. You’ll notice that the four subsections of each legendary break down into additonal parts, detailing the crafting process – all except the precursor.
That came with HoT, though the term “precursor crafting” is kind of misleading, it’s a combination of crafted parts and a scavenger hunt.

Thanks all, I really appreciate the help!