“Thanks again for your patience while we looked into your issue with the Lost Shores event. We have confirmed that we can provide everyone who did not have the opportunity to loot the chest with a reward for their participation. All affected players will receive a reward regardless of whether or not they have contacted Support. We’re working very hard on this, and you should have a reward in your in-game mail early next week.”
Combined with this week’s AMA, color me impressed, ANet. -slow clap-
Not getting my hopes up too much, but any bets as to what the reward’s gonna be?
If it doesn’t provide the same chance at a precurser, it really isn’t compensation, it’s a buy off. It’s like if you were injured, and it was some company’s fault and they are sued for lost wages; that would include the end of the year bonus that everyone got, but you didn’t get because you weren’t there.
Anyway, I’m sure they will be fair about it given how they have taken it upon themselves to implement this fix/compensation on an admitted mistake.
I’m just trying to figure out how they are going to decide who gets the reward and who doesn’t.
I mean there was many factors to take into account on why people couldn’t participate:
-DC’d during event and couldn’t loot chest
-Didn’t loot chest fast enough before it despawned
-Couldn’t log in cause the login servers were down so they missed the event
And a few others as well. How are they going to know who had these issues, and who simply just wasn’t there? Myself for example, couldn’t even log in for the event cause the login server was down. Then when I got in, I got DC’d and kept getting DC’d a couple more times after that. By the time I finally got into the game, the event was over. So while I wanted to be there for the event, I couldn’t even log in to play it cause of server issues and DC’s.
As for the reward itself, I really hope it isn’t like what Moxic said, and it is just a “buy off”. People ended up with the Accessory, and 20 Slot, and a Legendary to boot. I hope the compensation is of equal value at least.
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I’m just trying to figure out how they are going to decide who gets the reward and who doesn’t.
I mean there was many factors to take into account on why people couldn’t participate:
-DC’d during event and couldn’t loot chest
-Didn’t loot chest fast enough before it despawned
-Couldn’t log in cause the login servers were down so they missed the event
And a few others as well. How are they going to know who had these issues, and who simply just wasn’t there? Myself for example, couldn’t even log in for the event cause the login server was down. Then when I got in, I got DC’d and kept getting DC’d a couple more times after that. By the time I finally got into the game, the event was over. So while I wanted to be there for the event, I couldn’t even log in to play it cause of server issues and DC’s.
As for the reward itself, I really hope it isn’t like what Moxic said, and it is just a “buy off”. People ended up with the Accessory, and 20 Slot, and a Legendary to boot. I hope the compensation is of equal value at least.
I didnt get a precursor. You should get a shot, not a guarantee.
i believe they have the combat log for it. Well, you can’t ask for more. Look at some people who wanted to join but can’t join due to unable to connect or in different time zone. How to compensate those?
Anet just want to keep more people happy so tat they can continue to stay on playing the game. But this is unfair to those who are in Different Time Zone or working.
I’m hoping that everyone who at least participated gets the accessory and the 20-slot, and people who got the chest but couldn’t loot it cause of crashing or being out of range could have those plus a special box with a random exotic in it, with a low chance of something higher? I dunno, I feel like that’s fair. I’m sure they have the information of who did what on their end, it’s just a pain in the kitten to look through all of it.
I’m just trying to figure out how they are going to decide who gets the reward and who doesn’t.
I mean there was many factors to take into account on why people couldn’t participate:
-DC’d during event and couldn’t loot chest
-Didn’t loot chest fast enough before it despawned
-Couldn’t log in cause the login servers were down so they missed the event
And a few others as well. How are they going to know who had these issues, and who simply just wasn’t there? Myself for example, couldn’t even log in for the event cause the login server was down. Then when I got in, I got DC’d and kept getting DC’d a couple more times after that. By the time I finally got into the game, the event was over. So while I wanted to be there for the event, I couldn’t even log in to play it cause of server issues and DC’s.
As for the reward itself, I really hope it isn’t like what Moxic said, and it is just a “buy off”. People ended up with the Accessory, and 20 Slot, and a Legendary to boot. I hope the compensation is of equal value at least.
I didnt get a precursor. You should get a shot, not a guarantee.
Agreed, and I didn’t mean to insinuate that I wanted a free Legendary.
I think the best solution would be to run the event again. It’s already in the system of who looted the chest, so they couldn’t loot it again. They could run the event on a loop for a day or two so those who had issues or didn’t get to participate, can do it the normal way and have a chance with the chest for themselves.
No reason to do a “you didn’t win, so here’s a copy of our home game” thing. It seems like way too much trouble to go through to check all the logs and such and then try to come up with a suitable reward that players will be happy with. Would be much easier to just run the event again so they can participate in the battle and get their own loot.
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How do you determine who had looted before? You would think Anet will look at the log, and scan every single name again to flag those? Its a tedious job, pretty well i can bet they wouldn’t do it.
Anet has the right not to give you anything at all.
How do you determine who had looted before? You would think Anet will look at the log, and scan every single name again to flag those? Its a tedious job, pretty well i can bet they wouldn’t do it.
Anet has the right not to give you anything at all.
And it’s easier for them to find out who and why they didn’t get the chest? It is much easier to find out who looted the chest than it is to find out who didn’t and why.
With who already looted it, it is a scan of who already looted that specific chest. That is it.
When it comes to who didn’t get it, there is a lot more to search for. They have to check who was DC’d during that time period of the event and when the chest was up for that minute, who didn’t get the chest in the time it was up and for what reason (lag, rezzing someone, waiting for a rez, DC, etc), who couldn’t log in cause of the login server being down, who couldn’t log in cause of constant DC’s upon logging in, and many more reasons as to why they couldn’t access the chest. They have to check that for every world and every overflow as well.
So which sounds more tedious in the end?
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So i cant post in Lost shores any more so i guess this falls under general discussion.
I want to hear your opinions on the matter.
When i came to Anet about my little problem with DCing at almost every event and NOT being able to loot the final chest for the lost shores and the problem with the noncompleted side quests due to the bugged NPCs they sent me this.
Hello.
Thanks again for your patience while we looked into your issue with the Lost Shores event. We have confirmed that we can provide everyone who did not have the opportunity to loot the chest with a reward for their participation. All affected players will receive a reward regardless of whether or not they have contacted Support. We’re working very hard on this, and you should have a reward in your in-game mail early next week.
Im guessing from this they will not be giving everyone precursors but from stats taken from my 200+ man guild (32 got a precursor,19 got 2 precursors and 5 very lucky players got 3.) Anet should be compensating all people who had this problem with at least an average of 15-30 gold worth of items.
Lets hope Anet can live up to this expectation. After all, it was they who botched this program and ruined the weekend of many who were looking so foward to this event.
At least they can try to rectify this mistake and put up a test server of something in the near future!
Average of 15-30g?
The items I got had a total sell value of about 4g.
Most likely people will get the accessory and the box. Those are the only two things that are actually easy enough to implement (unless they somehow manage to simulate the chest as a bag-item and mail them that).
If they give people on average 15 to 30 gold worth of items, then dam i wish i had disconnected (2 exotics worth 50 silver each and 2 rares worth around 20 silver together – and i was level 80). If your including the box (as it’s worth quite a bit) then no probs with the 15 gold bit.
I actully think they should just give the minimum amount people got – the box, the ring, 2 basic exotics and 2 basic rares.
Because a lot of us were actually really dissapointed with the whole event and the problem with attending the final event with D/Cs and all, we got our finance chief to do a tally of 5 large guilds. They all came about the 10-20 gold mark AVERAGE counting in the people who got from 5 gold worth of stuff to those who obtained precurors.
If they give people on average 15 to 30 gold worth of items, then dam i wish i had disconnected (2 exotics worth 50 silver each and 2 rares worth around 20 silver together – and i was level 80).
I actully think they should just give the minimum amount people got – the box, the ring, 2 basic exotics and 2 basic rares.
And yes your probably right, thats all they will pass out. Why? Because they fear making the whole thing worse. I would like to at least get the Karka Shell thing without having to grind it or spend a large amount of gold on it. I think i speak for most people when i say they should hand out some of the sweet new gear also.
Problem with that “average” is the people who got under that would be getting shorted so in essence it would have been better if they DC’ed as well. I’m not griping about it but like others have said, i wouldn’t expect anything more than the 20 slot box and the trinket. Possibly if you’re lucky, maybe an exotic and rare but again, i see it easier for them just to mail people a box and trinket.
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Because a lot of us were actually really dissapointed with the whole event and the problem with attending the final event with D/Cs and all, we got our finance chief to do a tally of 5 large guilds. They all came about the 10-20 gold mark AVERAGE counting in the people who got from 5 gold worth of stuff to those who obtained precurors.
What about the MEDIAN? It’s interesting to note the skewed distribution because the few people that got precursors have a large impact on the average considering most of those precursor items are 20+ times more costly than your typical exotic (unless the exotic has a highly desirable rune in it).
I would be happy with just the bag and the accessory. I don’t get these people who think Anet owes them a pre-cursor just because alot of people got one, more people didn’t get a precursor.
Infact, they should just give every account who didn’t participate the bag and accessory. Why should we get extra stuff when other who people had to work or were asleep during the event didn’t get anything?
i did the event, i was lucky enough to get into the event before it finished, but what i got was NOT worth 15-30g, at most all i got was worth 5g, and the most coming from a lucky drop lvl 78 superior dolyak rune armor.
so yeah, wishful thinking about getting 15-30g
like one poster above said, most likely they’ll give the chest that contains the accesory and the 20slot bag, 2 exos and 2 rares
Well hell, i want a free precursor of my choice!! Actually i want 1 precursor for each alt i got since they all had chances at the chest too!! J/k, i couldn’t resist
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What he says is totally true, out of the 500 people in my guild, 497 got one precursor, the rest got seven. So I want at least 232g67s14c, a personal excuse and an artbook signed by every GW2 team member and Obama. Come on, that’s just fair. I totally didn’t make up those numbers, honestly.
I dunno 15-30g seems awfully high. Unless that is what it is supposed to have been, but for some reason, like MF gear could had affected the drop totals. One of my characters was able to loot the chest, my other 80’s got disconnected in the overflows.
The total upon looting the chest was in the ballpark of 2-4 gold worth in the loot that was in the chest for me with no MF on. I got the bag, 1 Light Exotic(me being a Heavy) the Exotic accessory soulbound piece, 1 level 80 rare, and blues. Including all the vendor trash from all the other mobs.
How about those who looted box twice (different overflow) ? What about awarding some with 3 precursors an others with useless, not even 1g worth items ?
All this is just sick joke.
Actually i want 1 precursor for each alt i got since they all had chances at the chest too!! J/k, i couldn’t resist
That’s an interesting point you have – back then they did say it was fair game to do the event again on an alt (aftewards) and a lot of people did – but a lot of people didn’t because of fear or exploiting/time/coulnd’t get invited to server and or got a DC during the extra runs.
As such, shouldn’t that mean they should send the fix (be it a chest/loot whatever) to certain peoples alts who may have already looted the chest at the end on other characters?.
…from my 200+ man guild (32 got a precursor,19 got 2 precursors and 5 very lucky players got 3.)
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…from my 200+ man guild (32 got a precursor,19 got 2 precursors and 5 very lucky players got 3.)
And another nail hammers home into the coffin that was GW2!
Thank you, your helping my mental dilemma of “should I return & hope it all turns out ok?”.
Funny how people instantly accept such claims without hesitation, even if this was true, it’s just coincidence. Everybody had the same chance. This doesn’t have anything to do with compensation any more, it’s pure envy.
…from my 200+ man guild (32 got a precursor,19 got 2 precursors and 5 very lucky players got 3.)
And another nail hammers home into the coffin that was GW2!
Thank you, your helping my mental dilemma of “should I return & hope it all turns out ok?”.
Funny how people instantly accept such claims without hesitation, even if this was true, it’s pure coincidence. And everybody had the same chance.
That chance should never have existed though.
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Being one of the unlucky people who got disconnected during the final event, to find that quite a number of people, including a close friend of mine and another guild member (of a small 15-20 person guild) each getting a precursor, I felt like I got quite literally kicked in the teeth, I even went to the extent to make a longish post in a older thread (it’s quite recent in my post history).
However, I would be quite content in receiving a accessory and a 20 slot bag like everyone else, but what we are upset about is the fact that a large number of people, had a chance to get a precursor, with some lucky so-and-so’s getting more than that, and some even further fortunate people who managed to find a overflow server and still loot the chest on alternate characters to get even more goodies (to each that did the latter, I hope karma bites you in the backside), further rubbing salt in the wounds. And it would still leave us feeling bitter if we didn’t have the same opportunity that at least the large majority got.
But I will reiterate, at least we are getting something, so on that much, Thank you ANet.
If anything, this event shows why having RNG over skill for awesome stuff in a skill-based game is never a good thing. Pre-cursors should’ve been something account bound you get for demonstrating skill. Had this always been the case, or made such before LS, you probably would have significantly less complaints…. Though I do believe those who were participating and DC’ed should get something cause that DE chain was agonizing at times.
…from my 200+ man guild (32 got a precursor,19 got 2 precursors and 5 very lucky players got 3.)
And another nail hammers home into the coffin that was GW2!
Thank you, your helping my mental dilemma of “should I return & hope it all turns out ok?”.
Funny how people instantly accept such claims without hesitation, even if this was true, it’s pure coincidence. And everybody had the same chance.
That chance should never have existed though.
Says who. I’d be glad the precursor prices dropped, they’re already increasing again.
/e: just to add my part to the rage, I went offline long before the boring reinforcement phase started and had fun with my gf, logged in during the final fight again and got full loot. Win win.
@Kyosji.8961 So you should get something on the alt although you clearly completed on the main first to get to try on the alt? While some didn’t even get to complete it on their main.
@lordkrall.7241 Yes you worked for getting that reward… but those that get something now did too… and it was not like they did not want to stay to complete that work…
Ofc. we should not get better items, the same chance for the same things would be neat though.
Anyways although I would just love to see a chest/box that had exactly the same chance of the same things (good and bad). It is more likely to just be that shell and bag + maybe some other novelty. Which will actually be fine with me too, I was upset and disapointed, but well… you don’t always get what you want. Honestly the biggest disapointment was not seeing the end of the event itself.
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…from my 200+ man guild (32 got a precursor,19 got 2 precursors and 5 very lucky players got 3.)
And another nail hammers home into the coffin that was GW2!
Thank you, your helping my mental dilemma of “should I return & hope it all turns out ok?”.
Funny how people instantly accept such claims without hesitation, even if this was true, it’s pure coincidence. And everybody had the same chance.
And why should people care they had the same CHANCE to get idk 3 precursors when they got none? (inb4 entitlement arguments: it’s just bad design for a 1 time event that was also buggy/laggy/whatever). Stuff like that makes more ppl unhappy than happy me thinks, and it’s my feeling designers should work to make more ppl happy than unhappy (you know, happy ppl play the game, buy gems, unhappy ones leave).
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Dunno how they gonna “award” ppl who didnt have chance to gain items. There are many ppl who were not able to even login to game due to constant client errors. I guess for those they will say , they didnt play they dont deserve it , right ?
Hmm, interesting e-mail. I saw that some people got the same one last week promising that the rewards would be out early this week. That said, until I actually see it happen, I’ll file it under “checks in the mail,” and another one of those things “we’re looking into” or will implement “sometime in the future”
As for a chance at a precursor, if rewards do come out, I’m guessing it will be zero based on the forum storm when they has them in the initial chest. Is that fair considering the screw-ups were on their end, probably not, but life isn’t fair, and it’s doubly not fair in the MMO world where you have no real control over outcomes whatsoever.
I don’t believe sticking a monetary value to the items is what I am looking for. I was one of the DC victims. The 20 slot bag, and a chest or bag with the same RNG from the same loot table would be sufficient.
I don’t see why they don’t just take the end event chest “code” – move it to Lion’s Den and give everyone who is on their selected list of DC’d people and provide them one weekend to click on the dang chest and be done with it. This way we get what we get…
What it sounds like IMO is they are going to send out 1 item to each person – prob the 20 slot bag…. based on the email above. If that’s the case – then I say Thank You for your efforts, but it was a fail.
Anyway – I have my fingers crossed that they live up to the community expectations… BUT I have a feeling there will be “hate” posts in our near future.
I’ll be selling “I participated in the Lost Shores Event and all I got was two screws and this lousy T-Shirt” T-Shirts in the near future….
Excluding the Ancient Karka Chest the items I got were junk; no precursor(s) plus a non-max item even though I was 80.
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side note:
When we speak of ingame gold do many of you think about how much real money it can equate to? For instance, during the weekend of the event $60 worth of gems was right around 30 gold. $60!
I don’t see why they don’t just take the end event chest “code” – move it to Lion’s Den and give everyone who is on their selected list of DC’d people and provide them one weekend to click on the dang chest and be done with it. This way we get what we get…
If the game code doesn’t allow for such a mechanic, that’s not a trivial thing to do. And I don’t want to witness the outrage if something goes wrong here.
I’m just trying to figure out how they are going to decide who gets the reward and who doesn’t.
I mean there was many factors to take into account on why people couldn’t participate:
-DC’d during event and couldn’t loot chest
-Didn’t loot chest fast enough before it despawned
-Couldn’t log in cause the login servers were down so they missed the event
And a few others as well. How are they going to know who had these issues, and who simply just wasn’t there? Myself for example, couldn’t even log in for the event cause the login server was down. Then when I got in, I got DC’d and kept getting DC’d a couple more times after that. By the time I finally got into the game, the event was over. So while I wanted to be there for the event, I couldn’t even log in to play it cause of server issues and DC’s.
As for the reward itself, I really hope it isn’t like what Moxic said, and it is just a “buy off”. People ended up with the Accessory, and 20 Slot, and a Legendary to boot. I hope the compensation is of equal value at least.
I 100% agree with this. i tried to log in and it would try to load me into lost shore but would timeout and give me the server error. i fugured it was a typical GW bug like most events and came back that evening only to find out I missed out ony chance for some epic loot. Saying i wasn’t pleased is an understatement.
Personally I’d be happy with the trinket and the box. They’re the common items that everyone got and so it’d be fair to let DC’d folks have them. It wouldn’t be fair (imho) to give out precursors or expensive stuff which the lucky folks got.
