Lot of Racism in this game
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No idea what’s an N Bomb but there’s a filter in game if you don’t like seeing certain words.
No idea what’s an N Bomb
Norn.
Leman
And?
Should I pat your head?
There is a block list for a reason. And did you fall in love with him, that when he’s green in your block list, then it makes you check that tab window every 2 mins?
So my question is – was he flaming a specific nation, culture?
Because I kind of find it funny how you overuse racism term, when you describe that guy who simply troll flamed only.
Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?
It takes about a week to a month for a queued report to be processed. The more people that report them, the more it’ll get noticed. One person reporting multiple times however will have little impact. Also, just because a bad word was said doesn’t mean they’ll receive any punishment. What was said and its context will be judged.
The player dialogue at world events is a nice reality check for the sorts of people you’re playing with. Racism, yes, but the worst fights are against female bosses like Taidha and (when she was there) Scarlet.
Taidha is still basically a chorus of (in not exactly these words):
“Commit sexual assault against this female dog!”
“It’s time for group sexual assault of this intercourse-having female dog”
etc. etc.
Toxic culture entirely. Sad that you either have to tolerate it or fill up your blocklist with these serial offenders :/
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The N Bomb, **gger, most people in America consider to be a very offensive racial slur. The filter isn’t really the point. Having the filter doesn’t excuse the type of behavior the OP is talking about.
As for the OP, every time you see him spouting racial slurs, use the in game report function. That is about all you can do. Anet has stated repeatedly that when that happens a GM is summoned to the map immediately to see what is happening and take whatever actions they deem necessary. If they aren’t banning the person then there is likely to be more to the story than you know of.
You have the ability to report players. Do it.
When I clicked on the title I was hoping for a lighthearted discussion about how much Asura suck… and how adorable Quaggans are…
The N Bomb, **gger, most people in America consider to be a very offensive racial slur. The filter isn’t really the point.
Fun Fact:
When a white dood calls black dood, black, then white dood is racist, facist, kitten.
When a black dood picks up and flames white dood, it’s called argument.
Racism term is used in every single given situation, mostly because people cannot understand it.
The N Bomb.
Nuke Bomb, Nitro Bomb.
Racism became so overused that it’s more for controlling people and situations.
Welcome to USA.
Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?
You just posted this for clickbait. I RARELY see racism in this game and I’ve been playing since launch.
I rarely see racism. I was hoping this was about how Charr and Sylvari make much better light armor races than the tiny weak asura. (Still mad I made an asura necro)
I have seen racism, but not very commonly. When I do, I report it….but it’s pretty uncommon.
hmm I’ve been playing since launch and the worst thing I’ve seen is someone throwing around the “noob” insult in spvp
aurora glade ftw I guess..
either way gw2 has the nicest community in any mmo i’ve played, except maybe EVE, EVE players love to help out and are really nice, though wether that’s honest or not, who knows :p
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Could be not necessary a racism, could be just low culture level, lack of education, some kid throwing around stuff he hears around in his natural habitat. Plus afaiu it’s ok to use that N word for black people, so how do you know etc. As for Taidha, never heard anything like that on Taidha, not like i do it often, but never heard anything like that about Scarlet either, this reminds about another similar topic where OP was upset about usage of the G word and homosexuals being mistreated or whatever. I also had no clue what he was talking about. I dunno, i play on EU and maybe on NA it’s a zoo like that, but i haven’t seen any or much of a crap like that. Maybe i just don’t really pay attention, who knows, but i remember i said that to some of my friends and they were just as surprised as me.
Hilarious HoT video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am9gVQB8gss
Could be not necessary a racism, could be just low culture level, lack of education, some kid throwing around stuff he hears around in his natural habitat. Plus afaiu it’s ok to use that N word for black people, so how do you know etc. As for Taidha, never heard anything like that on Taidha, not like i do it often, but never heard anything like that about Scarlet either, this reminds about another similar topic where OP was upset about usage of the G word and homosexuals being mistreated or whatever. I also had no clue what he was talking about. I dunno, i play on EU and maybe on NA it’s a zoo like that, but i haven’t seen any or much of a crap like that. Maybe i just don’t really pay attention, who knows, but i remember i said that to some of my friends and they were just as surprised as me.
Just because you aren’t educated to know that what you’re saying is racist, homophobic or whatever, does not mean that it isn’t. Intent doesn’t always matter a whole lot when you’re being completely ignorant and insulting people. Nor is ignorance an excuse for being rude or making derogatory remarks.
That wasn’t an excuse, that was just a thing i wanted to point out. In my mind a racist is a very different thing from a stupid kid only talking same stupid kitten, every other stupid kid he knows talks in his neighborhood or whatever. I think those are 2 different problems.
Reminds me. There’s a well known PvP streamer, who lives in NA, but until recently was playing on EU. After he went back to NA one of the first things he said: “there’s so much bm on NA compared to EU.”
Hilarious HoT video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am9gVQB8gss
The N Bomb, **gger, most people in America consider to be a very offensive racial slur. The filter isn’t really the point. Having the filter doesn’t excuse the type of behavior the OP is talking about.
It’s so offensive that they use it themselves. Still not getting that one tbh.
Also the OP talks about racism and that talk about offensive or rude chat what is something completely different.
Did let me think about http://granitegrok.com/Shout_Racist_305px.jpg
Besides what is offensive to you might not be offensive to somebody else while not allowing somebody to say that might be offensive to yet somebody else. Thats why ’it’s offensive’ should never ever be a reason for a ban.
If there are people who say thinks you do not like you block them.
But i like using the n word a lot of times. I use “noob” all the time trolololo
No idea what’s an N Bomb but there’s a filter in game if you don’t like seeing certain words.
http://youtu.be/diVfMNnXc5A?t=24s
Its the one you cant say on TV as long you arent black.
To the op, you reported it, thats all you can really do.
But I find it interesting peoples responses in this thread highlight that a lot of people have no real problem with this behavior.
perhaps the op is more right than one would think.
@phys i am sure u will find this strange but the N word for me does not imply being racist. This is something that effects specifically black americans. On the other side there are other more brutal ways of racism that take place outside the US, which i personally consider racist and am completely against. The things that happen in non-US countries makes the N word look clownish really.
Even non US black people don’t take the N word as seriously as americans do…but i can understand why from a historical point of view.
That being said i don’t use the N word myself because i don’t discriminate people based on color, i rather discriminate them based on their level of stupidity.
If u think about it, the very existence of this thread promotes racism indirectly by putting the color of a skin in the spotlight (may it be it good or bad).
I suggest closing this thread. It goes no were honestly. The report has been made ingame. It’s more then enough. No need to put spotlight on colors and risk making more harm trying to do a good deed.
PS. Personally i have not once seen any racist mapchat. But i have seen stuff in mapchat that would make u lose all hope in humanity…and it addressed all colors….not just one.
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While I haven’t seen any racism lately, I have no doubt it happens… I’ve seen horrible stuff in map chat all the time, and reporting does almost nothing because it continues to happen.
I remember logging onto WoW a few months back and I (jokingly) accidentally said “Canada sucks” in global chat. I was suspended for 72 hours. I guess some games police their communities, and for some like Guild Wars it’s the wild west.
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The world will always have morons and idiots, who will seek for attention. If that includes inciting others with racist remarks, that’s what they’ll do.
Block, report, and move on with your life. Those kind of people are rarely worth the effort.
WoW is different…their responsibility towards millions of players of literally all ages is much greater because of the numbers they have, the name they have made for themselves and so on. Plus let’s not forget the amount of money & employees they have.
Even if ANet says “we take care of our community as much as any other game and bla bla and whatever” that will not suffice if u compare it to a huge game like WoW that has both the $$ and the employees to back it up. It’s about numbers. THAT does not mean ANet is ignorant to the case tho. I only mean u can’t compare a smaller team&game to a mammoth like WoW&Blizzard/Activision. It’s like comparing your local market to IKEA. Both might have good intentions but only one has the actual power to fully control the problem
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No idea what’s an N Bomb but there’s a filter in game if you don’t like seeing certain words.
http://youtu.be/diVfMNnXc5A?t=24s
Its the one you cant say on TV as long you arent black.
Now thats racism.
To the op, you reported it, thats all you can really do.
But I find it interesting peoples responses in this thread highlight that a lot of people have no real problem with this behavior.
perhaps the op is more right than one would think.
What behavior exactly. The OP does not say exactly what has been said, only that he finds it offensive.
I find moderators closing perfectly good threads offensive. Doesn’t mean they can’t do it. All I can then do it report them, getting the message it will be looked at by a moderator (likely himself) so that makes it even more offensive. But in the end there is not much more you can do then report and ingame block.
Devata/Lanfear stop being ignorant. It’s not a double standard.
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I don’t really see this issue all that often in the game. Maybe it’s just that I don’t typically play during peak hours?
But I’ve done dungeons, I’ve done world bosses, etc, and the vast majority of the time what the OP is discussing isn’t an issue. Or sure, there are always a few lewd comments, but nothing like whats being discussed here. All one can really do is report it, that’s what the report feature is for. Beyond that, there’s a filter and an ignore function. Those are the options.
As for the N-word specifically, it just makes me roll my eyes. That is such a double standard. Its perfectly ok for a black man to say it, but its racist when a white man uses it. Cmon now. It’s either racist or its not, it cannot be both. Just further shows how terrible our society really is.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Devata stop being stupid.
Tell me what is stupid. Just saying I’m being stupid is kinda offensive. Of course I’m fine with that. We life in a free country. Well most of us do I think. But still it would be more wise if you said what you consider stupid. Because just saying somebody is being stupid is kinda stupid. (You see, I explain why)
I played archeage for 1 month.
I played both NA and EU chars.
On both i had black donkeys.
On EU i called him Usainbolt because he was fast!
On NA i called him Blackslave because he was my donkey!
All my e-friends laughed with me – yellow, black, red or normal.
And wait for it….I’m not racist.
Racism and trolling is a HUGE difference.
And y racism should be punsihed as verbal abuse, But u should identify it in a right way.
And don’t forget – money rules the world..sadly…
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Can a moderator close this thread? It’s derailed its course already.
To the op, you reported it, thats all you can really do.
But I find it interesting peoples responses in this thread highlight that a lot of people have no real problem with this behavior.
perhaps the op is more right than one would think.
What behavior exactly. The OP does not say exactly what has been said, only that he finds it offensive.
I find moderators closing perfectly good threads offensive. Doesn’t mean they can’t do it. All I can then do it report them, getting the message it will be looked at by a moderator (likely himself) so that makes it even more offensive. But in the end there is not much more you can do then report and ingame block.
the op basically makes it clear, for people who are familiar with such things, he probably doesnt want to say exactly what it is, because that is giving it new life.
The crux of the OP is that the same people are saying the same things day after day, and seem to be immune to bans.
If you need to get an idea, just take any culture/nation and make sweeping derogatory generalizations about said culture/people. People will in generally find this highly offensive, because it isnt based on anything real about you. Imagine you start to play a game, and the first thing you hear is, kitten stupid dirty insert your culture
This is in no way analagous to people closing threads, that is censoring people. This is more analgous, to say random people in the street mocking and ridiculing you and your family, everyday on your way to work. Its design and purpose is to be offensive.
Oh yeah, to the op, interestingly enough, you keeping track of these players by friending them increases the chances that the megaserver will place you in the same maps as them, from what they said about the megaserver. That may be why it seems more of a common occurence around you.
Devata/Lanfear stop being ignorant. It’s not a double standard.
Saying that is not a double standard (you referring to lanfear) now that’s what I consider racism. Because you agree that purely based on color one person is allowed to do / say something and another is not. That’s pretty mutch the definition of racism,
Anyway, this is going way to much off topic.
OP did say multiple things but most of the post was about people saying things he did not like (where rude according to him). Not saying what that was. So it’s everybody’s guess what those things where. But like I said before, what is offensive for one person might not be offensive for the other and denying it might also be offensive for yet another person.
Maybe OP is talking about how some people talk about the asura’s. Some might find that offensive other might find that funny. I would not be for not allowing that sort of things. But then the OP can report and block.
The general advice being given here.
I don’t really see this issue all that often in the game. Maybe it’s just that I don’t typically play during peak hours?
But I’ve done dungeons, I’ve done world bosses, etc, and the vast majority of the time what the OP is discussing isn’t an issue. Or sure, there are always a few lewd comments, but nothing like whats being discussed here. All one can really do is report it, that’s what the report feature is for. Beyond that, there’s a filter and an ignore function. Those are the options.
As for the N-word specifically, it just makes me roll my eyes. That is such a double standard. Its perfectly ok for a black man to say it, but its racist when a white man uses it. Cmon now. It’s either racist or its not, it cannot be both. Just further shows how terrible our society really is.
1)Its all fine for someone to say, insert your culture can hold their liquor, its not ok and fine for other people to say, hey that culture is a bunch stinking alcholics. If one ever came around my daughter i would just leave trail of liquor bottles leading to a spike pit.
2) just because 1% of the total population may or may not be ok being labeled a certain way, does not mean the population as a whole is ok with it. For example, your grandmother may many times say, women need to stay home and take care of their kids, and keep a clean house, and let the men earn money. That doesnt mean its ok for men to go around saying every woman should do that, and for them to tell people hey, i can say that, because lanfear Shadowflames mother always told me that, and shes a woman.
Devata/Lanfear stop being ignorant. It’s not a double standard.
Saying that is not a double standard (you referring to lanfear) now that’s what I consider racism. Because you agree that purely based on color one person is allowed to do / say something and another is not. That’s pretty mutch the definition of racism,
Anyway, this is going way to much off topic.
OP did say multiple things but most of the post was about people saying things he did not like (where rude according to him). Not saying what that was. So it’s everybody’s guess what those things where. But like I said before, what is offensive for one person might not be offensive for the other and denying it might also be offensive for yet another person.
Maybe OP is talking about how some people talk about the asura’s. Some might find that offensive other might find that funny. I would not be for not allowing that sort of things. But then the OP can report and block.
The general advice being given here.
the op identified at least one of the derogatory terms that people were saying.
To the op, you reported it, thats all you can really do.
But I find it interesting peoples responses in this thread highlight that a lot of people have no real problem with this behavior.
perhaps the op is more right than one would think.
What behavior exactly. The OP does not say exactly what has been said, only that he finds it offensive.
I find moderators closing perfectly good threads offensive. Doesn’t mean they can’t do it. All I can then do it report them, getting the message it will be looked at by a moderator (likely himself) so that makes it even more offensive. But in the end there is not much more you can do then report and ingame block.
the op basically makes it clear, for people who are familiar with such things, he probably doesnt want to say exactly what it is, because that is giving it new life.
The crux of the OP is that the same people are saying the same things day after day, and seem to be immune to bans.If you need to get an idea, just take any culture/nation and make sweeping derogatory generalizations about said culture/people. People will in generally find this highly offensive, because it isnt based on anything real about you. Imagine you start to play a game, and the first thing you hear is, kitten stupid dirty insert your culture
This is in no way analagous to people closing threads, that is censoring people. This is more analgous, to say random people in the street mocking and ridiculing you and your family, everyday on your way to work. Its design and purpose is to be offensive.
Oh yeah, to the op, interestingly enough, you keeping track of these players by friending them increases the chances that the megaserver will place you in the same maps as them, from what they said about the megaserver. That may be why it seems more of a common occurence around you.
I feel much more offense by other things (like censorship) then if people would attack my culture/nation and more of that stuff. So thats completely personal. That is also why imo you should not be to focus on if something is offensive because thats personal. What you are now already doing is favoring one type of offense above another just because thats how you feel.
Thats why I stay at my point. OP should just put the person on ignore and do a report. If it’s against the rules he might get a ban, else not. But the fact that the OP got offended by it (and some other people) does not automatically make it a bannable thing.
So report, ignore and go on with your life. (or go in discussion with those people)
Devata/Lanfear stop being ignorant. It’s not a double standard.
Saying that is not a double standard (you referring to lanfear) now that’s what I consider racism. Because you agree that purely based on color one person is allowed to do / say something and another is not. That’s pretty mutch the definition of racism,
Anyway, this is going way to much off topic.
OP did say multiple things but most of the post was about people saying things he did not like (where rude according to him). Not saying what that was. So it’s everybody’s guess what those things where. But like I said before, what is offensive for one person might not be offensive for the other and denying it might also be offensive for yet another person.
Maybe OP is talking about how some people talk about the asura’s. Some might find that offensive other might find that funny. I would not be for not allowing that sort of things. But then the OP can report and block.
The general advice being given here.
the op identified at least one of the derogatory terms that people were saying.
True and as seen in this thread, some consider that offensive, other don’t. Exactly my point why you can’t focus to much on those things and should then (if you consider it offensive) ignore it and move on.
I find moderators closing perfectly good threads offensive.
What good threads have been closed?
I’ve yet to see mods going tw@t mode.
Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?
I don’t really see this issue all that often in the game. Maybe it’s just that I don’t typically play during peak hours?
But I’ve done dungeons, I’ve done world bosses, etc, and the vast majority of the time what the OP is discussing isn’t an issue. Or sure, there are always a few lewd comments, but nothing like whats being discussed here. All one can really do is report it, that’s what the report feature is for. Beyond that, there’s a filter and an ignore function. Those are the options.
As for the N-word specifically, it just makes me roll my eyes. That is such a double standard. Its perfectly ok for a black man to say it, but its racist when a white man uses it. Cmon now. It’s either racist or its not, it cannot be both. Just further shows how terrible our society really is.
1)Its all fine for someone to say, insert your culture can hold their liquor, its not ok and fine for other people to say, hey that culture is a bunch stinking alcholics. If one ever came around my daughter i would just leave trail of liquor bottles leading to a spike pit.
2) just because 1% of the total population may or may not be ok being labeled a certain way, does not mean the population as a whole is ok with it. For example, your grandmother may many times say, women need to stay home and take care of their kids, and keep a clean house, and let the men earn money. That doesnt mean its ok for men to go around saying every woman should do that, and for them to tell people hey, i can say that, because lanfear Shadowflames mother always told me that, and shes a woman.
No it’s oke for them to say that because of free speech. But I don’t see how this is on topic.
I repeat it again for the last time. Because you disagree or find something offensive does not make it forbidden. So you can report, you can ignore and you should move on.
so many white people feeling offended for me.
I always laugh. Though I’d prefer you give me money instead of telling me what I should or shouldnt feel bad about..
I find moderators closing perfectly good threads offensive.
What good threads have been closed?
I’ve yet to see mods going tw@t mode.
Lots and lots of good threads.
Last thread I considered interesting that was closed was this one https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Good-luck-everyone/page/2#post4536494
Also there where a few reactions added in an old thread a few days ago. When I checked later all those post where deleted to berry that thread again. While there was nothing wrong with those comments.
But that doesn’t really matter. I just said that as example to show that ‘offensive’ is personal. That is why you can’t expect somebody to get banned for saying something you consider offensive. Likely somebody else will be offensed because of that ban so what about that person? Kitten him?
Devata/Lanfear stop being ignorant. It’s not a double standard.
Saying that is not a double standard (you referring to lanfear) now that’s what I consider racism. Because you agree that purely based on color one person is allowed to do / say something and another is not. That’s pretty mutch the definition of racism,
Anyway, this is going way to much off topic.
OP did say multiple things but most of the post was about people saying things he did not like (where rude according to him). Not saying what that was. So it’s everybody’s guess what those things where. But like I said before, what is offensive for one person might not be offensive for the other and denying it might also be offensive for yet another person.
Maybe OP is talking about how some people talk about the asura’s. Some might find that offensive other might find that funny. I would not be for not allowing that sort of things. But then the OP can report and block.
The general advice being given here.
the op identified at least one of the derogatory terms that people were saying.
True and as seen in this thread, some consider that offensive, other don’t. Exactly my point why you can’t focus to much on those things and should then (if you consider it offensive) ignore it and move on.
So what you are saying is that people shouldnt get mad if random people come by and insult them to their faces, because sticks and stones and all that. And everyone should judge there personal level of offense to anything anyone says, by every other person’s definition of what is cool.
So if some one calls your wife dirty wh* sl* every day she goes to the store, thats cool, because they have some people somewhere who arent offended by that type of thing. she should just learn to ignore them.
and im not saying censorship is cool, im saying its a totally different type of issue. Derogatory terms are people directly insulting you and trying to cause a negative reaction in you, or control/alter your behavior for their own amusment/biases. While its all good to say people should just grin and bear it, why should they have to?
so many white people feeling offended for me.
I always laugh. Though I’d prefer you give me money instead of telling me what I should or shouldnt feel bad about..
Just had to say lol.
hmm I’ve been playing since launch and the worst thing I’ve seen is someone throwing around the “noob” insult in spvp
aurora glade ftw I guess..
either way gw2 has the nicest community in any mmo i’ve played, except maybe EVE, EVE players love to help out and are really nice, though wether that’s honest or not, who knows :p
I was taking this post seriously until that one line.
No idea what’s an N Bomb
Norn.
I chuckled.
@OP: Sadly, kids are kids, immature kids are immature kids, and sometimes even adults goof off. In an MMO, theres not a ton that a developer can do. As long as you aren’t being harassed directly, Im not sure theres a case you can make. I mean, you can try submitting a support ticket, with screenshotted chat logs. Customer Support might issue temp bans to people. Maybe.
Karma is as abundant as air, and as useless as the Kardashians.
When African Americans have dominated society and deprived Americans of European descent their rights to marriage, education, healthcare, and other basic freedoms, you can start claiming the use of “n*****” is a double standard. Until that day, it’s merely an attempt to claim a word that has been used for generations to belittle and degrade a group of people based on the color of their skin and thereby deprive it of its potency to hurt.
I played archeage for 1 month.
I played both NA and EU chars.
On both i had black donkeys.
On EU i called him Usainbolt because he was fast!
On NA i called him Blackslave because he was my donkey!
All my e-friends laughed with me – yellow, black, red or normal.And wait for it….I’m not racist.
Racism and trolling is a HUGE difference.
And y racism should be punsihed as verbal abuse, But u should identify it in a right way.
And don’t forget – money rules the world..sadly…
Saying something that insensitive to others just to troll is racist. That is to say it’s a racist remark.
I don’t think most people would consider naming a mule like that, and I’m glad that’s the case. That you see nothing wrong with it is disturbing.
Been playing since beta and have never seen racist comments in chat.
OP, I think you just found a bad egg.
What concerns me is your obsession with this fellow. Block and ignore is the easiest solution, yet you continually check his online status to see if he’s been “punished” yet?
Sounds like this troll is trolling you, even from the block list. Just move on. Some people are racist in this world, and unfortunately in the real world you can’t /block someone. But in GW2 you can. Move on.
I won’t stop because I can’t stop.
It’s a medical condition, they say its terminal….
It’s a medical condition, they say its terminal….
so many white people feeling offended for me.
I always laugh. Though I’d prefer you give me money instead of telling me what I should or shouldnt feel bad about..
As if the big bad white people have money to just give away. We all have similar problems yo :P
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