Guild Wars 2

+1 to everything there.
We were promised an update from the devs regarding a performance patch and so far I have seen 0 impact if it was included into the Teq patch.

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

What I don’t understand is WHY ANET hasn’t made the graphical part of the game GPU based over CPU, kinda counter productive IMO.

Im Mudbone.1437:

What I don’t understand is WHY ANET hasn’t made the graphical part of the game GPU based over CPU, kinda counter productive IMO.

They bought the engine architecture from another company. Most MMO producers don’t actually write their own engine architecture anymore.

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

assuming OP is running a first gen i7 or something (860 or 920 etc) this shows how ridiculously CPU dependent this game is.

oh yeah 5 fps with my C2D is lolz, especially when my GPU load barely changes.

Errant Venture.9371:

Im Mudbone.1437:

What I don’t understand is WHY ANET hasn’t made the graphical part of the game GPU based over CPU, kinda counter productive IMO.

They bought the engine architecture from another company. Most MMO producers don’t actually write their own engine architecture anymore.

Then they bought the wrong engine and should ask for their money back.

Errant Venture.9371:

Im Mudbone.1437:

What I don’t understand is WHY ANET hasn’t made the graphical part of the game GPU based over CPU, kinda counter productive IMO.

They bought the engine architecture from another company. Most MMO producers don’t actually write their own engine architecture anymore.

That’s interesting because Anet has said that the engine GW2 is using is a heavily modified and upgraded version of the engine they made for GW1.

That being said maybe that engine was made by someone else?

fellyn.5083:

Errant Venture.9371:

Im Mudbone.1437:

What I don’t understand is WHY ANET hasn’t made the graphical part of the game GPU based over CPU, kinda counter productive IMO.

They bought the engine architecture from another company. Most MMO producers don’t actually write their own engine architecture anymore.

That’s interesting because Anet has said that the engine GW2 is using is a heavily modified and upgraded version of the engine they made for GW1.

That being said maybe that engine was made by someone else?

Sorry, looks like I was (partially) mistaken. The server architecture was designed by Arenanet, but they use the Havok physics engine for all of the dynamics/physics calculations.

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

My system specs are in my sig.
I get 20fps in zergs and high pop events. It is NOT our systems, it is the crappy engine that the game is built around.

Errant Venture.9371:

fellyn.5083:

Errant Venture.9371:

Im Mudbone.1437:

What I don’t understand is WHY ANET hasn’t made the graphical part of the game GPU based over CPU, kinda counter productive IMO.

They bought the engine architecture from another company. Most MMO producers don’t actually write their own engine architecture anymore.

That’s interesting because Anet has said that the engine GW2 is using is a heavily modified and upgraded version of the engine they made for GW1.

That being said maybe that engine was made by someone else?

Sorry, looks like I was (partially) mistaken. The server architecture was designed by Arenanet, but they use the Havok physics engine for all of the dynamics/physics calculations.

What is also funny is in GW1 I get 120+ FPS AND is fully using my SLI cards where in GW2 my SLI cards are barely working and only 1 card has a load.

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

Not everyone has a job. Not everyone has cash. Why should I upgrade my computer for this game when it runs fine on other MMOs?

If I wanted an amazing experience, I’de just go play something else because I know it won’t happen in GW2.

Stormcrow.7513:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

My system specs are in my sig.
I get 20fps in zergs and high pop events. It is NOT our systems, it is the crappy engine that the game is built around.

Either your connection is a piece of crap or your RAM and GPU are not optimized for your processor. My guess is you kittened your CPU when you overclocked it: GW2 puts a much heavier strain on the CPU than it does the GPU.

Zacchary.6183:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

Not everyone has a job. Not everyone has cash. Why should I upgrade my computer for this game when it runs fine on other MMOs?

If I wanted an amazing experience, I’de just go play something else because I know it won’t happen in GW2.

A refurb’d Dell tower with a 3rd gen i5, GTX640, and 8 gigs of RAM runs for about $400. If you can’t afford an upgrade to a machine that’s an entire 18month generation out of date, I’m sorry, that sucks, but you shouldn’t complain about performance.

Stormcrow.7513:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

My system specs are in my sig.
I get 20fps in zergs and high pop events. It is NOT our systems, it is the crappy engine that the game is built around.

I am actually running practically the same setup with the same performance. People can make all of the excuses they want but the truth is I have a PC I can install near any current game on and play smooth as butter on ultra or high settings except GW2. That does not in any way fit with the advertised “mid range system” pitch we were given at launch when it won’t even run on systems considered fairly high end. Also the fact it so CPU intensive and barely touches the GPU just shows how messed up the engine really is. I know personally I’m not going to go buy a new PC to replace one less than a year old because 1 game is poorly designed.

kailin.4905:

Stormcrow.7513:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

My system specs are in my sig.
I get 20fps in zergs and high pop events. It is NOT our systems, it is the crappy engine that the game is built around.

I am actually running practically the same setup with the same performance. People can make all of the excuses they want but the truth is I have a PC I can install near any current game on and play smooth as butter on ultra or high settings except GW2. That does not in any way fit with the advertised “mid range system” pitch we were given at launch when it won’t even run on systems considered fairly high end. Also the fact it so CPU intensive and barely touches the GPU just shows how messed up the engine really is. I know personally I’m not going to go buy a new PC to replace one less than a year old because 1 game is poorly designed.

Honestly I’m pretty sure you’re either:
A). Over-exaggerting the extent of your issues
B). Have some sort of overheating issue causing you to get low performance out of your CPU
C). Managed to screw up your overclock causing you to get poor performance out of your CPU
D). Have a horrifically un-optimized network connection

I run a lower tier system than this guy (i5 2.7k GHz + GTX640) and I can run on full max settings in a hard capped overflow for Teq (let alone WvW) and have ZERO lag issues (60+ FPS with occasional rubberband hiccups whem my flatmate fires up his p2p torrents).

I am currently running the following specs and get insane lag during major event’s on max setting’s.

Intel I5 2500k OC to 4.0ghz Processor
16 gigs of DDR3 Memory
256 gb Samsung 840 pro SSD Harddrive
MSI AMD HD 7870 Graphics card

all teamed up on a Z77 gigabyte motherboard.

My spec’s while not top of the line are not slouching either and will lay waste to 90% of the system’s this game is run on. I have to agree there is room lots of room to optimize the game.

My best guess as to why this and a lot of other updates are being put on hold are because of the 2 week living story updates. There has yet to be a 2 week update that does not come with multiple game breaking bugs.

Errant Venture.9371:

kailin.4905:

Stormcrow.7513:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

My system specs are in my sig.
I get 20fps in zergs and high pop events. It is NOT our systems, it is the crappy engine that the game is built around.

I am actually running practically the same setup with the same performance. People can make all of the excuses they want but the truth is I have a PC I can install near any current game on and play smooth as butter on ultra or high settings except GW2. That does not in any way fit with the advertised “mid range system” pitch we were given at launch when it won’t even run on systems considered fairly high end. Also the fact it so CPU intensive and barely touches the GPU just shows how messed up the engine really is. I know personally I’m not going to go buy a new PC to replace one less than a year old because 1 game is poorly designed.

Honestly I’m pretty sure you’re either:
A). Over-exaggerting the extent of your issues
B). Have some sort of overheating issue causing you to get low performance out of your CPU
C). Managed to screw up your overclock causing you to get poor performance out of your CPU
D). Have a horrifically un-optimized network connection

I run a lower tier system than this guy (i5 2.7k GHz + GTX640) and I can run on full max settings in a hard capped overflow for Teq (let alone WvW) and have ZERO lag issues (60+ FPS with occasional rubberband hiccups whem my flatmate fires up his p2p torrents).

The resolution for your monitor plays a large part on the fps. What resolution are you running the game in? Because I highly doubt you are playing with max settings with a monitor of 1080p or more with your set up and getting smooth 60fps in high density fights.

Zacchary.6183:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

Not everyone has a job. Not everyone has cash. Why should I upgrade my computer for this game when it runs fine on other MMOs?

If I wanted an amazing experience, I’de just go play something else because I know it won’t happen in GW2.

That’s like saying why should I upgrade my system when my system plays Duke Nukem 3D just fine?

The issue was never about system specs. The issue is that even with top level specs, this game still runs crappy.

angelpaladin.7921:

I am currently running the following specs and get insane lag during major event’s on max setting’s.

Intel I5 2500k OC to 4.0ghz Processor
16 gigs of DDR3 Memory
256 gb Samsung 840 pro SSD Harddrive
MSI AMD HD 7870 Graphics card

all teamed up on a Z77 gigabyte motherboard.

My spec’s while not top of the line are not slouching either and will lay waste to 90% of the system’s this game is run on. I have to agree there is room lots of room to optimize the game.

My best guess as to why this and a lot of other updates are being put on hold are because of the 2 week living story updates. There has yet to be a 2 week update that does not come with multiple game breaking bugs.

The havok engine that GW2 uses for all of its physics calculations + AI is owned & operated from intel. It is notorious for performing poorly on AMD GPUs.

Caramel Ham.4891:

The resolution for your monitor plays a large part on the fps. What resolution are you running the game in? Because I highly doubt you are playing with max settings with a monitor of 1080p or more with your set up and getting smooth 60fps in high density fights.

I run 1920×1080 on an Asus VS248H-P 24-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor

I DO disable post-processing, but that’s mainly because the game just looks a whole helluva lot better without it.

A. If I was getting even 30 fps in big events I wouldn’t even have made the post
B. Possible, but Ive been playing nearly every mmo for the past 12 years with no issues like I have had with this game.
C. Not OC’D, never have with this PC
D. My network is set up by a friend who does this for a living. But I did pay him with a 12 pack so….

Either way I know I’m not alone. Its cool that it plays well for you but for me and MANY others it don’t. I like the game but it feels like a sloppy beta still in many ways including the engine. I find myself playing less just because it annoys me that what we have in this game should not require what is needed to play at a level that I as a gamer feel it should. In the long run if I do eventually stop playing I feel this will be the biggest contributing factor as there are many other games out there that are just less of a hassle.

edit for AMD Comment: I also have a new AMD 8350 4.0 GHZ 8x core with dual Gigabyte GTX 680’s and my performance is even worse than on my older i7.

Errant Venture.9371:

Zacchary.6183:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

Not everyone has a job. Not everyone has cash. Why should I upgrade my computer for this game when it runs fine on other MMOs?

If I wanted an amazing experience, I’de just go play something else because I know it won’t happen in GW2.

A refurb’d Dell tower with a 3rd gen i5, GTX640, and 8 gigs of RAM runs for about $400. If you can’t afford an upgrade to a machine that’s an entire 18month generation out of date, I’m sorry, that sucks, but you shouldn’t complain about performance.

In general, no. However, that doesn’t change the fact that their refusal to optimize their systems is definitely going to hurt them in the long term.

Errant Venture.9371:

angelpaladin.7921:

I am currently running the following specs and get insane lag during major event’s on max setting’s.

Intel I5 2500k OC to 4.0ghz Processor
16 gigs of DDR3 Memory
256 gb Samsung 840 pro SSD Harddrive
MSI AMD HD 7870 Graphics card

all teamed up on a Z77 gigabyte motherboard.

My spec’s while not top of the line are not slouching either and will lay waste to 90% of the system’s this game is run on. I have to agree there is room lots of room to optimize the game.

My best guess as to why this and a lot of other updates are being put on hold are because of the 2 week living story updates. There has yet to be a 2 week update that does not come with multiple game breaking bugs.

The havok engine that GW2 uses for all of its physics calculations + AI is owned & operated from intel. It is notorious for performing poorly on AMD GPUs.

Caramel Ham.4891:

The resolution for your monitor plays a large part on the fps. What resolution are you running the game in? Because I highly doubt you are playing with max settings with a monitor of 1080p or more with your set up and getting smooth 60fps in high density fights.

I run 1920×1080 on an Asus VS248H-P 24-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor

I DO disable post-processing, but that’s mainly because the game just looks a whole helluva lot better without it.

and you get smooth 60fps in high density fights? I find that hard to believe…..or your system was what Anet optimized their game on.

I have a much more powerful computer than you in all areas. I play at 2560×1440 and no way can I play in high (all) settings while getting 60fps in high density fights.

I will have to test playing at 1080p to be sure though.

I think Errant is trolling you guys.

Im Mudbone.1437:

I think Errant is trolling you guys.

Its called 1upping.

Im Mudbone.1437:

I think Errant is trolling you guys.

I dunno…. I know people who seemingly have zero issues with gw2 performance wise. Strangely enough most of them aren’t ppl with killer systems either. I do have to wonder if the game was optimized and play tested for the i5 as I see a ton of ppl with i5 processors that are having better luck than other people who even have much stronger processors. Either way there are obviously issues in my opinion or this thread and countless others would not receive these levels of debate they have if it was just a localized issue or a few ppl with very outdated pc’s.

kailin.4905:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I think Errant is trolling you guys.

I dunno…. I know people who seemingly have zero issues with gw2 performance wise. Strangely enough most of them aren’t ppl with killer systems either. I do have to wonder if the game was optimized and play tested for the i5 as I see a ton of ppl with i5 processors that are having better luck than other people who even have much stronger processors. Either way there are obviously issues in my opinion or this thread and countless others would not receive these levels of debate they have if it was just a localized issue or a few ppl with very outdated pc’s.

Out of curiosity, how does your system run at medium settings? That might help narrow it down to whether or not the game’s just not optimized to run at full high settings.

kailin.4905:

I dunno…. I know people who seemingly have zero issues with gw2 performance wise.

That also depends on the player. For me 15 fps and above is “zero issues” and some other player may complain that anything under 60 fps is completely unplayable.

This is at medium settings. The game auto detects at ultra and I turned it down medium with post processing off and shadows and reflections to low. It gives me about 5 fps more than the auto detect settings. On my AMD I have most everything on low and can’t even get the 20-25 fps I get on my i7. This is during bigger zerges. Normal gameplay areas I get 70-100 fps.

Errant Venture.9371:

kailin.4905:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I think Errant is trolling you guys.

I dunno…. I know people who seemingly have zero issues with gw2 performance wise. Strangely enough most of them aren’t ppl with killer systems either. I do have to wonder if the game was optimized and play tested for the i5 as I see a ton of ppl with i5 processors that are having better luck than other people who even have much stronger processors. Either way there are obviously issues in my opinion or this thread and countless others would not receive these levels of debate they have if it was just a localized issue or a few ppl with very outdated pc’s.

Out of curiosity, how does your system run at medium settings? That might help narrow it down to whether or not the game’s just not optimized to run at full high settings.

At medium settings I run ok, BUT, my system woiuld be considered outdated it being just a socket 775 Q9650.

kailin.4905:

This is at medium settings. The game auto detects at ultra and I turned it down medium with post processing off and shadows and reflections to low. It gives me about 5 fps more than the auto detect settings. On my AMD I have most everything on low and can’t even get the 20-25 fps I get on my i7. This is during bigger zerges. Normal gameplay areas I get 70-100 fps.

Interesting. I normally run around 80 FPS in normal gameplay and drop to 40-60 FPS in big zergs with everything at high (except shadows at medium + post-processing off).

Same here
Powerful rig, but when the zerg comes, bbye performance.
I got used to play with everything set to low now.
Why?
Most importantly, because map loads a LOT faster while having your settings on low.
Fewer effects on screen so I can actually see what is going on.

All the people saying “it is your computer that s u x”, please, stop using lowest settings and then come here to troll.

When I7 @ 4.4 Ghz @ max 45 celsius on load, 16 GB RAM and SSD is not enough, blame your computer. Right…

Kailin, why on earth would you change an i7 for AMD 8350?
AMD is known to cheat benchmarks.
In real life usage, AMD is no match for i7

Errant Venture.9371:

kailin.4905:

This is at medium settings. The game auto detects at ultra and I turned it down medium with post processing off and shadows and reflections to low. It gives me about 5 fps more than the auto detect settings. On my AMD I have most everything on low and can’t even get the 20-25 fps I get on my i7. This is during bigger zerges. Normal gameplay areas I get 70-100 fps.

Interesting. I normally run around 80 FPS in normal gameplay and drop to 40-60 FPS in big zergs with everything at high (except shadows at medium + post-processing off).

I don’t believe you for one second.

Firstly, you are using a nvidia card on a 60-75Hz maximum monitor refresh. IF you are getting 80 FPS, then you are first up not using Adaptive V-Sync which is already the wrong thing to do. If you are running with vsync off and sustaining 80 FPS, then you should obviously tuen vsync on. Alternatively, if you are running in windowed mode this will instantly cut ~10-15% performance further indicating you will not sustain 60 FPS.

Next up, a couple months ago I moved from a Core i7-940 + GTX580 to a brand new Core i7-4770 + GTX780. The performance increase is just about where I expected it to be, and it still does not sustain 60 FPS in any large fight such as Tequatl.

1) Neither system auto-detects as Ultra in any setting.
2) Both systems test comparably in all other games with equal specification PC’s.
3) My new system still averages around 25 FPS on High for most of the Tequatl fight with high player numbers, with player count upped to Highest. Sure if I look at the ground/sky I get 60 FPS – this is not an indicator of performance.

If you turned post-processing and shadows off/down then obviously you aren’t running with the graphics set to high. So if you want to retain any viable belief in your systems performance, you need to submit a video preferably with FRAPS enabled and showing all detail settings used. Alternatively, keep the F11 settings window up so we can see current FPS.
Until then, in my opinion you are just trolling.

Stormcrow.7513:

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

My system specs are in my sig.
I get 20fps in zergs and high pop events. It is NOT our systems, it is the crappy engine that the game is built around.

20fps in high pop zergs isn’t bad, regardless of your specs. A particular MMO which shall not be named couldn’t handle any part of its content at launch. To have 5 fps in the main city, battlegrounds or raids was a luxury. I’ve done content at lowest graphics with a single frame every 2 or 3 seconds. That’s not to mention constant disconnects, extreme lag at any part of the game (500ms ping was normal), 3000 people queues and 8 hour maintenance which didn’t fix anything. Not only was the client optimized but neither were the servers capable of running an MMO.

In comparison, I’d say GW2 does pretty well.

Perfectly said. Its 2013 and they have no plans to upgrade to DX11 rofl. Milking gem store is more important than offering a smooth and fun experience for your fanbase. I wish the current team working on FF14 came for gw2, they’re doing absolutely everything possible to please their players and are already building a DX11 patch while anet doesn’t even dream about it.

PCI-E Palit GeForce 9600GT 512MB DDR3 DVI TV-Out
Gigabyte Socket-AM2+ GA-M720-US3 nForce720D 4xDDR2-1200 PCI-E 8ch 6xSATA RAID 1xU133 GLAN 3×1394 ATX
AMD Athlon II X4 630 2.8 GHz 2Mb Socket-AM3 BOX w/cooler
2x Samsung DIMM DDR-II 1024MB PC6400 800MHz
Windows XP

Auto-Detect in Open World
Best Performance in WvW and World Bosses.
No lags

Nuka Cola.8520:

Perfectly said. Its 2013 and they have no plans to upgrade to DX11 rofl. Milking gem store is more important than offering a smooth and fun experience for your fanbase. I wish the current team working on FF14 came for gw2, they’re doing absolutely everything possible to please their players and are already building a DX11 patch while anet doesn’t even dream about it.

What would DX11 bring to GW2? Graphics don’t make a game, gameplay does. And GW2 has the best gameplay of any MMO by a long shot.

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

you talk about weak pc’s from the 90’s and then suggest some garbage gtx640 ROFL. I have a gtx580 (like wut? 5 times more powerful than trashy 640? or more lolz) with a 2500k@4.2 and unless i turn character model limit to lowest/low the game runs at 12-18fps and you’re telling your crappy gpu from a Dollar store runs the game maxed without a sweat? gotta lol at some ppl on this forum some times hah

marnick.4305:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Perfectly said. Its 2013 and they have no plans to upgrade to DX11 rofl. Milking gem store is more important than offering a smooth and fun experience for your fanbase. I wish the current team working on FF14 came for gw2, they’re doing absolutely everything possible to please their players and are already building a DX11 patch while anet doesn’t even dream about it.

What would DX11 bring to GW2? Graphics don’t make a game, gameplay does. And GW2 has the best gameplay of any MMO by a long shot.

optimization is what it brings, removes ugly ps2 quality textures almost everything in gw2 has, adds tesalletion that removes the blockyness of this game as if gw2 came out in 2003 or something. go google DX11… there’s plenty of VERY useful things it has and not a single game would be better without it.

Well, Teq fps is better than the fps I get in Maw fractal..

I have intel core i5 processor and 16gm ram and I barely lag – on Teq-like population, I uaually have 30-45fps.
My video card is outdated though – Nvidia GeForce gtx560 1gb

Low FPS is your (computer’s) fault.

Skill lag is Anet’s fault

Lord Kuru.3685:

Low FPS is your (computer’s) fault.

Skill lag is Anet’s fault

Let the truth be heard. But wait, there’s more!

It’s not always ANet’s fault if you lag (aka: skill delays) – could be your ISP as well.

Since 11/15 they have shown a proclivity for emphasizing and encouraging participation in what they can’t technically support. And, yes, I don’t understand it either.

Errant Venture.9371:

Stop playing on machines from the late 90s. A 3rd gen intel i5 and a GTX 640 GPU will run Tequatl on max settings without breaking a sweat. The problem isn’t the servers or even the engine. It’s YOUR machine.

Source: Running Teq with no lag on max settings on a Dell XPS 8500 with a 3rd Gen i5 processor and GTX640 GPU

No, it’s the engine.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Low FPS is your (computer’s) fault.

Skill lag is Anet’s fault

No, it’s the engine.

Nuka Cola.8520:

marnick.4305:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Perfectly said. Its 2013 and they have no plans to upgrade to DX11 rofl. Milking gem store is more important than offering a smooth and fun experience for your fanbase. I wish the current team working on FF14 came for gw2, they’re doing absolutely everything possible to please their players and are already building a DX11 patch while anet doesn’t even dream about it.

What would DX11 bring to GW2? Graphics don’t make a game, gameplay does. And GW2 has the best gameplay of any MMO by a long shot.

optimization is what it brings, removes ugly ps2 quality textures almost everything in gw2 has, adds tesalletion that removes the blockyness of this game as if gw2 came out in 2003 or something. go google DX11… there’s plenty of VERY useful things it has and not a single game would be better without it.

At the cost of 20% of the framerate, ruining the game for the average player, especially those who play on laptops. That’s not acceptable.

I have no problem with the texture. Not to mention the ps2 is the most successful console ever running against 3 vastly superior consoles. Maybe the textures were not what people were interested in. PS2 had the best games for the time. GW2 has the best gameplay regardless of textures.

I’ve been playing videogames for over 2 decades. Graphics do not make a good game. I’ve seen that time and time again. If too much money is dumped into graphics, the game as a whole suffers. GW2 is a beautiful game. Anyone who thinks differently has to get his eyes checked.
Could it be even more beautiful. Most certainly. Would that be worth the cost? Probably not.

Some figures.

AMD 955 Black Edition processor, GTX670 GPU, 12Gb RAM, 11fps on medium settings at any world boss.

shrug

GuzziHero.2467:

Some figures.

AMD 955 Black Edition processor, GTX670 GPU, 12Gb RAM, 11fps on medium settings at any world boss.

shrug

Shouldn’t expect first class performance with second class hardware. The game is CPU-bound and you simply have a bad CPU. You have good memory and videocard, but an AMD CPU is always going to be the bottleneck.

I think one thing we can say for sure is this game’s performance doesn’t really correlate with typical hardware benchmarks.

Sometimes I even find that slightly higher settings give me more fps o_O

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Nuka Cola.8520:

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Nuka Cola.8520:

Perfectly said. Its 2013 and they have no plans to upgrade to DX11 rofl. Milking gem store is more important than offering a smooth and fun experience for your fanbase. I wish the current team working on FF14 came for gw2, they’re doing absolutely everything possible to please their players and are already building a DX11 patch while anet doesn’t even dream about it.

What would DX11 bring to GW2? Graphics don’t make a game, gameplay does. And GW2 has the best gameplay of any MMO by a long shot.

optimization is what it brings, removes ugly ps2 quality textures almost everything in gw2 has, adds tesalletion that removes the blockyness of this game as if gw2 came out in 2003 or something. go google DX11… there’s plenty of VERY useful things it has and not a single game would be better without it.

At the cost of 20% of the framerate, ruining the game for the average player, especially those who play on laptops. That’s not acceptable.

I have no problem with the texture. Not to mention the ps2 is the most successful console ever running against 3 vastly superior consoles. Maybe the textures were not what people were interested in. PS2 had the best games for the time. GW2 has the best gameplay regardless of textures.

I’ve been playing videogames for over 2 decades. Graphics do not make a good game. I’ve seen that time and time again. If too much money is dumped into graphics, the game as a whole suffers. GW2 is a beautiful game. Anyone who thinks differently has to get his eyes checked.
Could it be even more beautiful. Most certainly. Would that be worth the cost? Probably not.

did you at least know that 99% of games supporting DX11 also can be played in DX9? You have a crappy $250 pc from Walmart you can still play the game and enjoy it on very low. Those with gaming rigs would be playing as a person should in 2013…