Maroon Dye
If they are going to “fix” anything, it would be to rename the dye from Maroon to “Tyrian Purple”.
However, I’m not convinced that there is something that needs fixing. By any other name, #80000 would still look as sweet:
- Crayola defined ‘maroon’ as #C32148.
- X11 used the term to label #B03060
The use of #800000 as ‘maroon’ is a recent web convention, so I would argue that you really like that color, regardless of the name to which it is referred.
The GW2 BLTC dye matcher thinks that Crimson Lion is a close match, along with Cherry
Check out those first and then maybe come back to suggest that #80000 deserves its own slot in the dye panel or you’d just like to see Crimson Lion renamed to “Maroon Lion” and “Maroon” to “Tyrian Purple”
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Color is… complicated. Aside from human perception differences, color is an integration of standard spectral eye response, source light spectral content, and object spectral reflection. Ambient light changes the actual color of any object. That is three curves multiplied together.
Add to that the calibration cuve of your monitor, gamma and other curves of your graphics generator, then compare that to the same curves of the developing artists at Arenanet.
Finally, someone had to name the colour at Arenanet and receive approval for the name.
Is it not easier to pick the color you want from the palate and ignore the name?
Color is… complicated. Aside from human perception differences, color is an integration of standard spectral eye response, source light spectral content, and object spectral reflection. Ambient light changes the actual color of any object. That is three curves multiplied together.
Add to that the calibration cuve of your monitor, gamma and other curves of your graphics generator, then compare that to the same curves of the developing artists at Arenanet.
Finally, someone had to name the colour at Arenanet and receive approval for the name.
Is it not easier to pick the color you want from the palate and ignore the name?
In the case of GW2 there is also the ambient lighting issue.
In the hero/dye panel my mesmer’s shoes are purple. In world while standing at the flax patch in VB at night they look grayish.
In the case of GW2 there is also the ambient lighting issue.
Not just in GW2; RL colors are also affected by ambient lighting.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
Well, the RGB definition of Maroon is wrong. That’s just a dark red.
Maroon is supposed to be Blue+Red.
Well, the RGB definition of Maroon is wrong. That’s just a dark red.
Maroon is supposed to be Blue+Red.
“Merriam-Webster defines it as a dark red (3rd noun definition). It’s been in use since 1779, long before color was described using RGB triplets, when it was ported from a French word that means ‘brown red’.
There’s no agreed-upon definition. It’s just a label. (And that’s well before worrying about how humans actually perceive colors, differences between colors on different monitors, differences between reflected light and illumination, and so on.)
Accept that GW2 defines ‘maroon’ as 2F0019, 2D0018, or 270017 (cloth, leather, metal) and that 800000 isn’t represented on the in-game palette. The closest match is Crimson Lion, which is 810000.
I’m not sure why ANet decided to label this particular color as ‘maroon’ and I have no objection to seeing ANet add something for 80000.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
Well, the RGB definition of Maroon is wrong. That’s just a dark red.
Maroon is supposed to be Blue+Red.
That’s my expectation too, and how I’ve always thought of Maroon. Does this vary from country to country or region to region?
Anyway, crimson lion seems to be close to what OP wants (although calling it Tyrian Purple seems especially appropriate).
In the case of GW2 there is also the ambient lighting issue.
Not just in GW2; RL colors are also affected by ambient lighting.
Hehe that is true … there was the thing with the dress where nobody could agree what color it was
Hey guys, I noticed that the maroon dye isn’t maroon.
Maroon dye in the game is currently Tyrian purple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple
Maroon colour is supposed to look like this http://www.color-hex.com/color/800000
Hex color huh?
Funny that per them, Maroon is this.
http://www.color-hex.com/color/b03060
Or even this
pound sign 500000 looks more like maroon to me.
Enameled Crimson, Blood, Rosewood, Ruby or Brick all look pretty close.
This is Aggie Maroon (Texas A&M), btw.
As if integrating multiple power vs wavelength curves is not confusing enough, read this article on the “No red pixels” image a wise color scientist sent as an example of human perception messing with reality.
Oh, and red+blue is magenta, not maroon.
I’m just amused there’s a colour named “Tyrian purple”, but isn’t used as a named dye.