Matrix Cube Key Cool Down.
It all comes down to choice of the players. If some want to use their key in the waiting period before the fire elemental it is entirely their right to it. You or anyone else can’t dictate how others play the game, it could be someone who doesn’t even track world bosses that uses their key when they do. You just don’t know.
I believe once the Steam Creature boss has been killed, you are unable to unlock the area again for 20 minutes. This cooldown I think is to prevent quick farming of the steam creature, since it’s easy to farm the key and stack/hoard them in your bank, taking one at a time out to unlock the event.
Kitten.
(edited by Haleydawn.3764)
It all comes down to choice of the players. If some want to use their key in the waiting period before the fire elemental it is entirely their right to it. You or anyone else can’t dictate how others play the game, it could be someone who doesn’t even track world bosses that uses their key when they do. You just don’t know.
I believe once the Steam Creature boss has been killed, you are unable to unlock the area again for 20 minutes. This cooldown I think is to prevent quick farming of the steam creature, since it’s easy to farm the key and stack/hoard them in your bank, taking one at a time out to unlock the event.
Your first point would be valid IF you didn’t need to kill said world boss in order to charge the key, but as the 2 are linked yea im going to say someone is trolling this event/map, people used to troll it along time ago, and use a get around to get into the portal kill the golem, and when the key was used the golem would not spawn,
The key should only beable to be used on the portal within 15 minutes of the world boss dying, the key is linked to the world boss event, thus should be used with it, if Anet don’t want it this way, you need a different way to charge the key without the world boss.
I just use the Rift portals. No keys, no WBs necessary. =)
It all comes down to choice of the players. If some want to use their key in the waiting period before the fire elemental it is entirely their right to it. You or anyone else can’t dictate how others play the game, it could be someone who doesn’t even track world bosses that uses their key when they do. You just don’t know.
I believe once the Steam Creature boss has been killed, you are unable to unlock the area again for 20 minutes. This cooldown I think is to prevent quick farming of the steam creature, since it’s easy to farm the key and stack/hoard them in your bank, taking one at a time out to unlock the event.
Your first point would be valid IF you didn’t need to kill said world boss in order to charge the key, but as the 2 are linked yea im going to say someone is trolling this event/map, people used to troll it along time ago, and use a get around to get into the portal kill the golem, and when the key was used the golem would not spawn,
The key should only beable to be used on the portal within 15 minutes of the world boss dying, the key is linked to the world boss event, thus should be used with it, if Anet don’t want it this way, you need a different way to charge the key without the world boss.
You may need the fire elemental killed to charge the key, but you only need 1 key to open the area, so many people bank their keys to use later. There’s nothing wrong with this, people kill the steam ogre first because it’s efficient to do first, since you spend 10 minutes waiting for the elemental to pop in the first place. The fire ele is before the 2 “bigger” world bosses being Triple Wurm and Tequatl and maybe now even the Shatterer being 3rd too. Those few shaved minutes to get onto these organised maps can matter to some people.
Eitherway, you can’t really tell people how they play is wrong imo. It’s down to personal preferance and maybe a little organisation
Kitten.
It all comes down to choice of the players. If some want to use their key in the waiting period before the fire elemental it is entirely their right to it. You or anyone else can’t dictate how others play the game, it could be someone who doesn’t even track world bosses that uses their key when they do. You just don’t know.
I believe once the Steam Creature boss has been killed, you are unable to unlock the area again for 20 minutes. This cooldown I think is to prevent quick farming of the steam creature, since it’s easy to farm the key and stack/hoard them in your bank, taking one at a time out to unlock the event.
I am not really in favour of locking it but when people are actually doing it during the pre with only a few people for the sole purpose of locking the rest of players out after boss…something needs to be done. (these players, announce in map chat that they’re unlocking the event but they do not wait and start straight away and we all know that it is over within 30secs no matter how many people do it, thus no one can actually make it there in time in the first place).
Why cant they wait to use there key straight after the boss like everyone else. Makes absolutely no difference at all.
So what I would hope, the Matric event locked once fire ele pre starts until boss dead of time over. OR if the Matrix event is on cooldown, as soon as fire ele dies or the timer runs out, the cooldown instantly ends. This means the the heavy farming won’t be an issue and it gives all the other players opportunity to do the Matrix event.
Please read the thread.
I am not telling people how to play. I am suggesting some alternatives so more people can enjoy and play the game.
Also, the Matrix boss only takes an extra 1 minute. This is no time at all between bosses to be able to get to the bigger ones you suggest.
It all comes down to choice of the players. If some want to use their key in the waiting period before the fire elemental it is entirely their right to it. You or anyone else can’t dictate how others play the game, it could be someone who doesn’t even track world bosses that uses their key when they do. You just don’t know.
I believe once the Steam Creature boss has been killed, you are unable to unlock the area again for 20 minutes. This cooldown I think is to prevent quick farming of the steam creature, since it’s easy to farm the key and stack/hoard them in your bank, taking one at a time out to unlock the event.
I am not really in favour of locking it but when people are actually doing it during the pre with only a few people for the sole purpose of locking the rest of players out after boss…something needs to be done. (these players, announce in map chat that they’re unlocking the event but they do not wait and start straight away and we all know that it is over within 30secs no matter how many people do it, thus no one can actually make it there in time in the first place).
Why cant they wait to use there key straight after the boss like everyone else. Makes absolutely no difference at all.
So what I would hope, the Matric event locked once fire ele pre starts until boss dead of time over. OR if the Matrix event is on cooldown, as soon as fire ele dies or the timer runs out, the cooldown instantly ends. This means the the heavy farming won’t be an issue and it gives all the other players opportunity to do the Matrix event.
And why are you so sure people use the key to get there. I had my mesmer parked there for months for example. The Rift device also let you port up there without using the key. which people do on a regular bases I would venture.
You do not get to decide the timetable other people do events.
The Steam Minotaur should only spawn AFTER the death of the Fire Elemental. Then we can remove the lockout on the console and people can go up there whenever they want.
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The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
Server: Devona’s Rest
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
So is it griefing to do events out of order in FGS when there’s a group of players farming them? No player or group of players hold ownership of events including when they can be done. This particular event is on a 15 min timer so if players really must do it then they can wait. Whether or not someone does it during the pre-events doesn’t matter. Now if they verbally brag about it in map/local then you can report them.
(edited by Ayrilana.1396)
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
So is it griefing to do events out of order in FGS when there’s a group of players farming them? No player or group of players hold ownership of events including when they can be done. This particular event is on a 15 min timer so if players really must do it then they can wait. Whether or not someone does it during the pre-events doesn’t matter. Now if they verbally brag about it in map/local then you can report them.
When a player consistently triggers events in a targeted effort to deny other players access to content, it is griefing whether they brag about it or not.
If they don’t brag, you can’t really report them, but you can ask for some common-sense modifications to the game to make this form of griefing impossible.
Server: Devona’s Rest
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
So is it griefing to do events out of order in FGS when there’s a group of players farming them? No player or group of players hold ownership of events including when they can be done. This particular event is on a 15 min timer so if players really must do it then they can wait. Whether or not someone does it during the pre-events doesn’t matter. Now if they verbally brag about it in map/local then you can report them.
When a player consistently triggers events in a targeted effort to deny other players access to content, it is griefing whether they brag about it or not.
If they don’t brag, you can’t really report them, but you can ask for some common-sense modifications to the game to make this form of griefing impossible.
Players are only being denied the ability to do that particular event immediately after FE. That’s it. If they wait ~15 min then they can do it.
I am against a player, or group of players, who believe that they can dictate to others when an event or boss can be done beyond what Anet has already implemented into the game. Changing the behavior of something specific, in this case the steam Minotaur, in order to dictate this is no different.
(edited by Ayrilana.1396)
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
So is it griefing to do events out of order in FGS when there’s a group of players farming them? No player or group of players hold ownership of events including when they can be done. This particular event is on a 15 min timer so if players really must do it then they can wait. Whether or not someone does it during the pre-events doesn’t matter. Now if they verbally brag about it in map/local then you can report them.
When a player consistently triggers events in a targeted effort to deny other players access to content, it is griefing whether they brag about it or not.
If they don’t brag, you can’t really report them, but you can ask for some common-sense modifications to the game to make this form of griefing impossible.
Players are only being denied the ability to do that particular event immediately after FE. That’s it. If they wait ~15 min then they can do it.
Right, during the ~15 minutes when people are actually on that map…
Server: Devona’s Rest
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
So is it griefing to do events out of order in FGS when there’s a group of players farming them? No player or group of players hold ownership of events including when they can be done. This particular event is on a 15 min timer so if players really must do it then they can wait. Whether or not someone does it during the pre-events doesn’t matter. Now if they verbally brag about it in map/local then you can report them.
When a player consistently triggers events in a targeted effort to deny other players access to content, it is griefing whether they brag about it or not.
If they don’t brag, you can’t really report them, but you can ask for some common-sense modifications to the game to make this form of griefing impossible.
Players are only being denied the ability to do that particular event immediately after FE. That’s it. If they wait ~15 min then they can do it.
Right, during the ~15 minutes when people are actually on that map…
Well if they need/want to do that event then they can wait. No different than any other event that has a cool down after it has been completed.
The Steam creature event is just something that players decided amongst themselves to do after FE since the fire portion of the key typically gets completed then. It should not be locked to the FE event. Players are free to do it whenever they want.
Generally speaking, sure. However this particular event has spawned a wave of event griefers who intentionally trigger the event within a certain time frame in a direct attempt to prevent all of the world boss train players from being able to participate. The masses have a larger right to participate in this event than any single player does, and the game designers have a responsibility to ensure that that larger right is protected against intentional abuse.
So is it griefing to do events out of order in FGS when there’s a group of players farming them? No player or group of players hold ownership of events including when they can be done. This particular event is on a 15 min timer so if players really must do it then they can wait. Whether or not someone does it during the pre-events doesn’t matter. Now if they verbally brag about it in map/local then you can report them.
When a player consistently triggers events in a targeted effort to deny other players access to content, it is griefing whether they brag about it or not.
If they don’t brag, you can’t really report them, but you can ask for some common-sense modifications to the game to make this form of griefing impossible.
Players are only being denied the ability to do that particular event immediately after FE. That’s it. If they wait ~15 min then they can do it.
Right, during the ~15 minutes when people are actually on that map…
Well if they need/want to do that event then they can wait. No different than any other event that has a cool down after it has been completed.
Like when have to sit around waiting for a bunch of different events to spawn while making Nevermore …
I’m not against ANet changing things so that the portal only opens after the Fire Elemental, but neither do I think ANet should spend any energy worrying about this. It’s a minor event and the charged key can be used any time later. Surely, there are plenty of other QoL issues ANet should address before worrying about the hordes of leechers that skip the pre-events and instead sit around waiting for FE (including engineers that just leave their turrets out).
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
And there are many that purposely troll/grief the event just so those that finish the FE event can’t access the Steam Ogre. I often feel that are the majority that open the event before FE. They could come anytime to use one of their keys but chose to do it before FE.
And there are many that purposely troll/grief the event just so those that finish the FE event can’t access the Steam Ogre. I often feel that are the majority that open the event before FE. They could come anytime to use one of their keys but chose to do it before FE.
It only prevents those players who do FE from doing the steam creature within at most a 15 minute window. All players are able to do the event after the cool down provided that one of them has the completed key.
And there are many that purposely troll/grief the event just so those that finish the FE event can’t access the Steam Ogre. I often feel that are the majority that open the event before FE. They could come anytime to use one of their keys but chose to do it before FE.
It only prevents those players who do FE from doing the steam creature within at most a 15 minute window. All players are able to do the event after the cool down provided that one of them has the completed key.
You don’t even need the key anymore …
And there are many that purposely troll/grief the event just so those that finish the FE event can’t access the Steam Ogre. I often feel that are the majority that open the event before FE. They could come anytime to use one of their keys but chose to do it before FE.
It only prevents those players who do FE from doing the steam creature within at most a 15 minute window. All players are able to do the event after the cool down provided that one of them has the completed key.
You don’t even need the key anymore …
I didn’t account for the rifts because we do not know how long they will be available.
Actually I forgot there was also a way to get in without rifts or key XD