Guild Wars 2

Im expecting to be 300% MF in about a week (most likely next weekend) on current projections. Are there going to be other uses for essences of luck in the future? Or am I going to have to bank them with all those fractal rings or destroy them whenever I want to salvage something?

Nothing has been announced. It is, of course, possible that they’ll be used for something unusual down the road, but it’s anyone’s guess whether they will or not, much less when if they do.

On the bright side, if you do bank them, at least you can use an artificer to craft all of your small ones into Exotic-quality ones for easy storage. Yay, I suppose?

That does sound like a huge hassle, though. I had enough irritation back during Queen’s Jubilee and I was getting tons of tons of Gauntlet tickets I wasn’t going to use.

Don’t worry about it. More likely than not, your projections are wrong.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/e/ec/TotalLuckReq.png

Even at the peak (30k luck to level), that’s still only a stack of ecto salvages… it’s not even hard. Perhaps expensive if you’re casual as casual gets, but not hard.

The chart made me laugh. It also made me a little sad, but, hey, it’s about what I expected.

I’ve been salvaging all my fine/masterwork gear since they revamped the luck system, but I’m almost starting to wonder if I’d be better off just selling that gear after a certain point, as my returns (luck gain and salvage) on my investment (gear and kits) has naturally slowed down quite a lot.

yes considering it probably take as much time to go 0-200 as it does going from 295-300, I dont see how you can be 300 so soon… unless of course you just plowed $10,000 into gems.

Young Somalia.1706:

Even at the peak (30k luck to level), that’s still only a stack of ecto salvages…

It takes THREE MILLION points of luck to get to 260% MF. Four million to 300%.

Redenaz.8631:

The chart made me laugh. It also made me a little sad, but, hey, it’s about what I expected.

To think MF gear worth 100% would cost ten times less than you have to spend now, too. :/

My guess is, you should stop somewhere just below 80% mark before it becomes an absurd waste of time.

Draco.2806:

Young Somalia.1706:

Even at the peak (30k luck to level), that’s still only a stack of ecto salvages…

It takes THREE MILLION points of luck to get to 260% MF. Four million to 300%.

And? A stack of ecto will give you up to 27-30k points, of which ~70% of your investment is recouped by selling off the dust. Like I said, it only matters if you’re casual.

Young Somalia.1706:

Draco.2806:

Young Somalia.1706:

Even at the peak (30k luck to level), that’s still only a stack of ecto salvages…

It takes THREE MILLION points of luck to get to 260% MF. Four million to 300%.

And? A stack of ecto will give you up to 27-30k points, of which ~70% of your investment is recouped by selling off the dust. Like I said, it only matters if you’re casual.

(4,500,000luck)(250ectos/30,000luck)(.3gold/ecto)*30% = 3375 gold.

It’s as casual as casual gets guys.

I broke 200 gold last week. \o/

I /may/ not be the most efficient farmer. /understatement

Young Somalia.1706:

And? A stack of ecto will give you up to 27-30k points, of which ~70% of your investment is recouped by selling off the dust.

Assuming ecto costs 30 S, and a stack costs 75 G (30% = ~22 G), it’ll cost you 2,200 G to get the last 100% worth of MF if the progression were linear, not counting the previous 200%.

If you have that kind of money to throw around, good for you, but… please… do not make any suggestions on these forums that devs may see, even by accident. For the good of all of us.

Young Somalia.1706:

Like I said, it only matters if you’re casual.

(Jesus kittening Christ, what the hell.)

Ectos aren’t hard to get, either. You don’t need to buy them all

Please stop.

Seriously.

I guess you guys hate dungeons. But they truly throw ecto at you

You forgot to add in the cost of your salvage kits.

Mmm… about 7 silver per stack at 3 copper a salvage. Mostly negligible but yeah it will add up eventually.

To the OP: it’s entirely your own fault that you are nearing the cap, although they really should have made the essences tradeable.

Most players will take at least a year or more to reach the cap – it’s only people who are deliberately burning resources and targetting the MF that will have any problem before then.

The short answer is ‘no’ once you reach the cap they will be just junk for you.

Does anyone else see the irony of spending thousands and thousands of gold to attain a stat that will net you a marginally better chance at getting items of higher value? It seems counter-productive. Definitely a long-term payout.

This isn’t really a question more him bragging. As all he needs to do it not salvage anything he doesn’t need to salvage. so maybe it should stop trying after 295% and let the game do the rest.

i got to 100% after about 2 weeks of champ farming after the luck patch and then stopped lol. im now at 101% since then just completing daily objectives. unless you have nothing else youre working towards, it seems a waste to go for MF first.

Seras.5702:

Does anyone else see the irony of spending thousands and thousands of gold to attain a stat that will net you a marginally better chance at getting items of higher value? It seems counter-productive. Definitely a long-term payout.

If you place mass buy orders on the right things, you will actually make a profit. And now there is even more reason to do it with essence of luck to boost your accounts magic find. But it doesn’t seem like a large majority of players are focussed on this atm. Im pushing to get my magic find up through buy orders, but im not losing coin doing it from TP buy orders. But Im still making profits off most of these buy orders and I honestly thought that would not be possible if players were doing this in mass.

I had around 800 gold when I started doing this. I now have around 400 gold and about 400 gold worth of materials listed on the TP, which I am believe most if not all will sell over the weekend. I guess the one area Ive actually “lost profit” from is I spent around 3 million karma on greens which I put into the mystic forge and salvaged the returns, so I have “lost” 3 million karma on it.

I don’t think Im by any means ahead. I think there are probably some people who have or are about to hit 300MF. And these essences will have no use. So if I want to continue making profit from flipping for buy orders and salvaging them I am going to end up having to fill up my bank and then start deleting essences of luck. Despite the curve, I will be close to this by next weekend. And realizing this I came here expecting to see this issue being brought up already. We need more uses for our essences very soon or there are going to be serious storage issues for some people who like to flip things on the TP. We will either have to stop flipping these things for profit or we will have to delete these essences.

An average player is probably going to probably take 3 years to get to 300% luck, it hasn’t even been 3 months and you’re almost at the finish line, I think I read somewhere that anet is going to do something about people who get to 300% luck, but I highly doubt they’ll do anything for a year since the amount of players who’ll have 300% luck will only be a handful.
Luck will be very useless to you after you get to 300. I’d say get some stacks of the best quality luck you can craft incase anet increases the cap or makes it so that you can do something with them.

If you are about to hit 300% MF, congratulations.

Now, if your problem is that you are facing either deleting escences of luck or quit flipping stuff on the TP then I have no type of worries for you. Neither one of those is a real ‘problem’.

Just delete them and move on with your life, happy that you have achieved 300% long before most will even have hit 200%.

Just use an artifcer to combine escences of luck all the way up to exotic level and save a few stacks of those if you want to keep for later.

Looks like Ill be hitting around 290% by the end of this weekend, so I wasn’t too far off. I think Ill just have to do what the guy above suggests and stop my goal of maxing magic find and let the game do the rest. Although, as I say, this is a problem for me because I salvage for profit from items I buy from the TP regardless of whether I get the essence or not. So eventually Ill have the cap and end up storing some 250 stacks of 200s and then start deleting everything after that.

Also, some might be interested to know, I found that once you hit around 225MF every level after that is only 30k luck per level, so there is a hard cap of 30k per 1% up to 300%.

sostronk.8167:

Looks like Ill be hitting around 290% by the end of this weekend, so I wasn’t too far off. I think Ill just have to do what the guy above suggests and stop my goal of maxing magic find and let the game do the rest. Although, as I say, this is a problem for me because I salvage for profit from items I buy from the TP regardless of whether I get the essence or not. So eventually Ill have the cap and end up storing some 250 stacks of 200s and then start deleting everything after that.

Also, some might be interested to know, I found that once you hit around 225MF every level after that is only 30k luck per level, so there is a hard cap of 30k per 1% up to 300%.

can you screenshot the MF requirement bar? ty

kiwituatara.6053:

can you screenshot the MF requirement bar? ty

Screenshot in this topic on BLTP Forum:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/Tradable-Essence-of-Luck/first#post2991801

Within the current rules…

Since they are not trade-able then I would think the best way to deal with the Essence would be to have your Artificer convert them.

If my calculations are correct (done in my head so somewhat suspect) then 1 stack of Exotic Essences would be 5,000 Fine Essences or 50,000 luck points or 1.6 Luck percentage points at Luck Hard-cap.

Now for those of us with two digit luck, 5k of Fine Essences seems like a huge amount but for those of you that are already 80 Luck points above the hard-cap, I guess this would be a problem.

Possible changes…

• There is the option of adding Ascended Luck into the equation and make that upgradeable to Legendary Luck; which would add another two levels to the equation. This may only be delaying the inevitable though.
• I can see the problem where making them trade-able might pose another issue of the rich being able to buy yet another accomplishment, so it might be best to stay away from that option.
• What if they just made a Mystic Forge recipe to convert them to something else? That seems like the easiest option. As to what they would convert to is anyone’s guess.

Yalora Istairiea.6287:

Within the current rules…

Since they are not trade-able then I would think the best way to deal with the Essence would be to have your Artificer convert them.

If my calculations are correct (done in my head so somewhat suspect) then 1 stack of Exotic Essences would be 5,000 Fine Essences or 50,000 luck points or 1.6 Luck percentage points at Luck Hard-cap.

Now for those of us with two digit luck, 5k of Fine Essences seems like a huge amount but for those of you that are already 80 Luck points above the hard-cap, I guess this would be a problem.

Possible changes…

• There is the option of adding Ascended Luck into the equation and make that upgradeable to Legendary Luck; which would add another two levels to the equation. This may only be delaying the inevitable though.
• I can see the problem where making them trade-able might pose another issue of the rich being able to buy yet another accomplishment, so it might be best to stay away from that option.
• What if they just made a Mystic Forge recipe to convert them to something else? That seems like the easiest option. As to what they would convert to is anyone’s guess.

Clovers, of course!

I’m always a fan of no limit on how much +% mf you can get, but constantly be increasing how much is required for the next level. so 218→219 requires 30,000 and 219→220 requires 30,370 and 220→221 requires 30,750 and so on. adding 10 each level. under this plan, 300% would require 6.5 million total and 400% would require 23.5 million total and 500% would require 62.4 million total and 599→600 would take 874,870 luck for a total of 133.3 million

Maybe stop making them?

You can sell everything that makes essence of luck. So just sell them.

There is literally no problem to solve in this thread.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Maybe stop making them?

You can sell everything that makes essence of luck. So just sell them.

There is literally no problem to solve in this thread.

But how else can one humblebrag so effectively?

Can you actually feel the difference with 300% magic find? I mean most things drops as chests now so you don’t even get a chance to roll the dice

Can somebody also post a guide of the best way of getting luck fast?

New ascended gear stat combination coming soon! Power / Precision / Magic Find

Combine Essence of Luck with ascended crafting materials to make Insignia of Luck!

#circleoflife

kiwituatara.6053:

Can you actually feel the difference with 300% magic find? I mean most things drops as chests now so you don’t even get a chance to roll the dice

Can somebody also post a guide of the best way of getting luck fast?

Pretty sure the champ boxes use MF, it’s just the open world chests and meta event boss chests that don’t. I know I can see a difference in the amount of t6 mats I get now that I’m getting closer to 100% natural.

In the last couple weeks I’ve gotten to 90%+ by salvaging everything I get from running champ trains. That wasn’t too hard but once you get to like 100%+ it might be more efficient just to buy stacks of ectos and break down any you get from rares/exos.

The first people already maxed out on 300% MF and they made a pretty good effort doing so. As far as i know, you can still consume Essences of Luck at 300% so i think Anet might raise the bar at some point.

Apart from that, i think its the best idea to introduce recipes that use Essence of Luck for crafting, either as an ingredient for personal limited time mf boosters, food trays giving mf or in ascended jeweler crafting, making mf utility infusions.

This topic clearly shows whats wrong with the playerbase side of MMO problems. Rush, rush, rush, make bragging topic, then complain they have nothing else for you to do.

if you did it just for bragging rights or something to do, then congrats. But don’t come complaining that there’s nothing else to do with it afterwards when you obviously went out of your way to max MF as soon as possible, presumably by spending coin to do it in such a short timespan. Congrats on all your clicking.

^Yup. Maybe the OP should take a break from the game and give his fingers a rest. Maybe by that time they’ll have something else for him to rush through.

I dont see whats wrong with getting to 300% mf fast~ If he’s found a way to get to 300mf without losing much, why would he not do it?

im have 98% playing 7 hours per day……… try 2 find real life bro

kiwituatara.6053:

I dont see whats wrong with getting to 300% mf fast~ If he’s found a way to get to 300mf without losing much, why would he not do it?

There’s nothing wrong with doing it. Its to then come here and start asking whats next when I would bet the vast majority of the population isn’t even close to capping.
This is the portion of the MMO playerbase that gets time-gating, gear-treadmills and rushed content put into games because they rush through it as fast as humanly possible, brag about it, then start complaining they have nothing to do and want more.

Well far in the future when you have 300%(if Anet dont do anything with it)it will just be an “right click” “delete” item

kiwituatara.6053:

I dont see whats wrong with getting to 300% mf fast~ If he’s found a way to get to 300mf without losing much, why would he not do it?

The way I see it, MF is an account bound upgrade that will pay dividends the quicker I get it upgraded. I know there are alot of people who see it the same way and are doing the same thing and I discuss it with them in LA. The others here don’t see it the same way and thats cool. I don’t really care about their opinions on my how I should live my life or anything. As someone said above, what is next? I don’t know what these essence of luck could be used for. They could be very valuable and if I start deleting them I may be deleting something of value. So I will have to start banking them for now until Anet let us know what they are going to be used for in the future or I run out of bank space and I come here and start raging about not telling us :p

Oh and Im only at 278%. Another 660k luck to go!

Draco.2806:

Don’t worry about it. More likely than not, your projections are wrong.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/e/ec/TotalLuckReq.png

A graph of vertical progression in GW2! Kill it with fire before it breeds!

Waste thousands of gold to get 300% MF for more blue and green items

GW2 logic.

Mathias.9657:

Waste thousands of gold to get 300% MF for more blue and green items

GW2 logic.

There are many ways on the TP to gain essences of luck while turning a profit.

Just because you dont know how to do it, doesnt mean everybody else is wasting thousands of gold to max his mf.