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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Automatic translators never work properly. Look at Google Translation.

And Skynet does?

Just how this new plug works, exactly? Is it filtering words, or checking whether the user uses English/French/German/Spanish keyboards? What if i use an English keyboard and type french? Is the plug going to stop my message, or it’ll pass through like wind over a fishnet?

So what if my character uses a “native” tongue IC wise? Or has an accent? Or even better, using phrases like : “B…but, i r…really don’t und…underst…tand your m…meaning, s..sir”? (I do have an engineer girl who speaks like that, yes!) Is the phrase going to be plugged, or pass through? It’s not exactly English so to speak…

I know, you can turn the thing off, but it’s ridiculously funny if you think about it..

Good grief…

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Hystery.8415

Hystery.8415

Speaking of which, I’m still searching of how turning the thing off.

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Posted by: Lexie.1028

Lexie.1028

Speaking of which, I’m still searching of how turning the thing off.

Chat Options → Show Only [English/Spanish/German/French]

Note: Chat options is the little cog on your chat window.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Maybe right clicking the chat? Or maybe it’s a parameter to use on the client when it starts..

The game is slowly and definitely losing me, so i won’t bother with it. I only stay with my friends to complete our current RP chain events. If that’s finished or found ourselves unable to do so due to Skynet’s intervention, we’ll probably move away.

Unless of course (as if) A-net replaces the now broken glass which was formerly Guild Wars 2’s community with something that works.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: rstripn.8697

rstripn.8697

Post-post edit: lol. I posted this in the wrong feedback thread. Still works here, so I’m leaving it, but still (/em shakes head at self). All the comments about RP do make a lot more sense now :P

To RP peoples: Jeez. Didn’t even consider how hard this would be hitting you. You have my sincere sympathy, for whatever thats worth (not much probably).

Why the devs aren’t responding

  • Many of the devs, including most of the forum posters and many of the coders, are on break until early next week (No, I don’t know this for a fact, but I’m like 90+% sure based on a whole load of evidence).
  • The only devs reading our responses are the ones whose job is to keep the threads in order and pull information to present to the rest of the devs. It’s not their job to talk to us, they’re not trained for it, and so they’re not talking. (P.S. By the way, good job. No sarcasm.)
  • Semi-related: Bumping does no good – CS agents in pretty much every company are trained to purposely weight their response to not reward it. Bumps only help your post get seen by more players, not by more devs.
  • It’s not that ArenaNet does’t care (I assume). It’s that the devs who can fix things and/or talk to us about fixing things simply aren’t here right now.

The Megaserver system isn’t going away

  • Decisions like redoing the entire server architecture are made at the highest level of a company, and there is a massive amount of corporate inertia you have to reverse to undo them. The only way they’d undo the Megaserver change would be if they were absolutely convinced they were going to lose a big chunk of their player base… which they aren’t if they respond appropriately on their return.
  • I’m not saying don’t complain about the Megaserver, complaints about it = awesome, it shows where the problems are, and motivates change. But posts requesting or demanding it be “undone” are not going to be heeded. Spend your effort on a more useful endeavor, like giving more specific feedback, and/or making suggestions for improvement.
  • I’m seeing lots of people getting upset enough to quit the game, here and in my own play circles. Please be patient, at least for a couple days. We players have submitted many dozens of well-thought-out ideas, ways to make the Megaserver a workable solution instead of the mess it is now. We just have to wait now, until we see the response.

Use emotion effectively in feedback

  • “ANet” is being used almost like a curse word by a lot of users on these forums right now (way more so than usual). Consider how a local businessman would react if people talked about his business this way while inside his shop. Now extend that- how do you think ANet reps are going to feel about helping players when thats the attitude they’re facing?
  • Please note that I’m not saying anger isn’t justified. For a lot of people right now it is. But anger solves nothing without calm to focus it. Like a laser.

To ANet devs:

  • Dropping several game-changing features then disappearing for a week may not be the best move. Something to consider for the next post-Living Story drop :/
  • Also, you may want to rethink dropping several game-changing features all at once, regardless. Makes it very difficult to get a good feel of each individual change, which is integral to troubleshooting in any form. Consider some form of spreading next time.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Speaking about the “Foreign language blocker”…

I just logged into the game to see if this thing works… I had it on by default, so i checked it by typing some phrases in English, French, Spanish, German and Greek.

And guess what : They all got through! Nothing got blocked, not even simple words like “Bonjour” or “Hola” or “Langweilig” (Yes, for those who understand the last word, that’s how the game feels right now to me, and no, i’m not German.)

What exactly this thing blocks, again?

ArenaNet, what in god’s name are you doing????

EDIT : Regarding the megaserver, we all suggested many things, we all stated the problems, we all cried about how damaging is for our RP communities, even before the megaserver was released.

What we got? Instead of keeping it in PvP lobby as intended, the server occupied half the game. We cried, suggested, tried to reason with them again, but instead, A-net expanded the areas the megaserver controls, claiming that it’s progressing nicely. After that statement, our rage is justified i believe.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Cactus Brawler.7415

Cactus Brawler.7415

It blocks by client, if you turned your client to the French or German version, you wouldn’t see stuff written by people using the English client.

It doesn’t filter by what you type, it filters by the language you’ve set the game to display in.

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Posted by: Nage.1520

Nage.1520

Overall it remains such a waste of time. If we think about it, why did they decide to do this megaserver stuff?

They say it was to group people together. for more interactions and gameplay.
I say that the servers are getting empty, and thus they need to regroup people together to hide this fact.

It was perfectly working before, and I don’t remember seeing someone complaining about ‘OMG there’s none on this map! Laaaame!’. They did like the town clothes. They took something working perfectly fine, to kitten it up so hard.

Then you haven’t been paying attention. Every week from slower servers, there are game dead complaints. Each and every week. If you haven’t seen them you haven’t been looking. And it’s been going on for a long time. There are even people months ago who suggested underflow servers.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

It blocks by client, if you turned your client to the French or German version, you wouldn’t see stuff written by people using the English client.

It doesn’t filter by what you type, it filters by the language you’ve set the game to display in.

In other words, covering a hole with paper, expecting people not to fall in… Absurd…

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Cactus Brawler.7415

Cactus Brawler.7415

It blocks by client, if you turned your client to the French or German version, you wouldn’t see stuff written by people using the English client.

It doesn’t filter by what you type, it filters by the language you’ve set the game to display in.

In other words, covering a hole with paper, expecting people not to fall in… Absurd…

Yeah real triple A development isn’kitten

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Posted by: kuscheldrow.6415

kuscheldrow.6415

Why not 4 seperate Mapchannels in the first place? One could chose which to show and which not, and which to type in and which not.
The whole block everything but… and get blocked by others you may even read if YOU turn that option off is building more barriers than it actually removes.
Some people won’t even notice it’s there and think they’re on maps with only their language.

Duh the whole megaserverthing is a true desaster and it is getting worse with every day passing… x_X

Trahearne <3

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Posted by: Kastu.3269

Kastu.3269

At first time, I was worried about the megaserver thing. But I tried to see how it will work and how I will find all the people I meet everyday. And, guess what, I was unable to find them. Even if they are in my friend list or in one of my guild, I didn’t find them. I’m really sad about this days …

I’m a french roleplayer on the non-official RP server : Jade Sea.
When GW2 launched, I was roleplaying on another game.
My friends told me to come. And I came a couple of months after release.
And since this time, it was great. I had tons of RP. I met some new people. On lots of map (not just DR so), I met people, just random people, who I got to RP to and who was not in my friend list or in a guild we share.

But, since Tuesday release, it’s impossible to me to meet new random people. Even the guild up thing is not working. On Thursday, we got a cultural norn event on Hoelbrak (yeah, event to drink beer :p). We have to group with other people we knew they was coming to bring them in the same map. I hope this is kind of broke and will be repair soon. At least, we will be on the same map as our friends or ours guildies. But for all the random RP people who were on Hoelbrak to see this event, I guess they were lost. How can you put this people who want to RP with if they are not in your friend list or guild ? I guess the only way to do that is to put people that from your home server (and with guesting). RP people who knew that when they choose Jade Sea, it was to roleplay.

As I read this thread (yes, I read all this dozen of pages), I saw some people don’t understand how RP works and say we need to group/guild. But, RP is not like that. RP is something that can connect you with people you don’t even know. It’s like in real life. For example, you can ask a random guy for your way. And this one can tell you the right direction or the bad. He can follow you, try to buglar you, etc. It’s the surprise thing that is important in RP (with other RP people !). If we stay on group/guild, we will not create enough game content to amuse us. We need to interact to a large of people. So, it was good to know that on our home server, we will find this people. Actually, we don’t know where we are. We don’t recognize people we are used to meet. And, on EU servers, there is more people who is not talking your native language. And there is a lot more trolls …

So, at least, please, bring us a RP tag and mix us with people from our native language.

I guess I don’t recognize this game anymore. I’m glad I will be away from the game for some weeks, so I will see on my return if changes were made in the good way.

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Posted by: Vigorous Raven.1826

Vigorous Raven.1826

I think a lot of RPers are struggling to see a reason to continue playing this game.
Since the update my RP has literally died. I can’t walk around and do random RP anymore because I never get put on the same map as any RPers (or ones in my language). I am not part of any guild because:

1) There was no reason for any of my characters to join any guilds IC (In character).
2) Where the flula should I have to? Like seriously…why should I be forced to join a guild for RP?

I personally think Anet clearly have no idea what they are doing when it comes to their topic and the lack of communication to us just appears like they are burying their head in the sand and hoping we go away.
Thing is, a lot of us only joined this game FOR the RP.
A B2P game with RP has always been appealing but…what’s the appeal now if the RP part is literally dying?

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Posted by: Ebony Star.2840

Ebony Star.2840

Wandering around In-game recently, I’ve seen several people disparaging the Roleplayers amongst us since the launch of the Megaserver. I thought of an idea to help people recognise the players who like to and are up for Roleplaying. Why not have a title added to the list of achievable titles?Actively Roleplaying” or similar. It can be toggled on and off as required so those not interested in joining in- character activities and discussions can steer clear. I have 2 party groups one of which likes to RP and one that is purely PVE adventure based, so a title would be a great addition and would help form new bonds with like for like players.

EDIT— Didn’t see the MEGASERVERS and RP thread until I’d posted this one lol, but I still think a roleplay title is a good idea.

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Posted by: Kaiwen.1520

Kaiwen.1520

I’m hoping this isn’t all A-Net will give the RP community:

Reminder: if you encounter players using abusive or rude language in chat, please report them by right-clicking their name in the chat window and selecting ‘Report.’
Blocking a player still functions the same way.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

I think someone needs to sit down, get some A-net representatives, and explain to them what RP stands for, in an MMO RPG game…

It’s a cold fact of nature that i DID join this game for RP reasons. My guild thought it would be a good idea to migrate from SWTOR to this game, and before Skynet, it was worth the effort. We had a nice server (Piken Square). As a consequence, i did spent a lot of time leveling, as gameplay wise, i find the game to be one of the best games i’ve ever played.

Yes, the server wasn’t overpopulated, so you wouldn’t see 400 players on a single event. But what we DID have? Respect between us.. Open RP encounters, anywhere in the world, cross guild RP, and more importantly? Our friends and guildsmates. We had our share of trolls, yes… But the encounters were minimal. More importantly, we didn’t have discussions about sexual content or disgusting things in the chat (no, i won’t go into details), and our server was running like a well oiled machine.

Now? I shudder to think about the crap i’ve seen in the chat, excluding the multilingual feuds. Aside from that, all my friends and guildsmates are gone. They’re there, but we can’t see each other, unless we stay in the areas still not corrupted by Skynet. Over the last 3 days, RP echoes throughout the game have been silenced. And those who aren’t, are constantly harassed or ridiculed by the random people who got shoved down our throats. Role Play itself is probably older than most of them who ridicule it, and i seriously dare them to try it.

For me, appearance matters. Even the smallest piece of my character’s clothing is there for a reason. Even a boot, even a pair of glasses, even if i want to keep my character barefoot, for example. For that reason alone, i’ve spent a vast amount of my hard earned money, to give them the look i wanted. While the wardrobe/dye feature is something i always wanted to have around, being treated like garbage and tossed into a dustbin is something i don’t appreciate. I trusted them, and they betrayed my trust in the worst possible way.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: MidnightX.6294

MidnightX.6294

I think someone needs to sit down, get some A-net representatives, and explain to them what RP stands for, in an MMO RPG game…

Well said, thats exactly what it is what it should be.

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Posted by: ZeroStatic.2176

ZeroStatic.2176

Ha I’ve been waiting for the dueling option / open world pvp to be able to roleplay mr evil guy forever, and ANet still hasn’t put out either option yet. (I hate roleplaying without making use of game mechanics in one form or another, otherwise you’re just playing in a fancy chatroom) I don’t even get why half of the RP’ers in this game actually RP in guild wars 2 though. If you are of the I put my hand on your cheek and kiss you Oh im so lucky class of RP’er, you’re better off in a text based rpg.

Seriously, other than having fancy graphics to look at, guild wars 2 offers almost nothing to RP’ers, whereas text based rpg’s have a way better way of blending RP with the in-game world and gameplay, allowing players to have an actual effect on the world in a way more complex manner, and play a way bigger part in the world.

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Posted by: Vigorous Raven.1826

Vigorous Raven.1826

Because maybe we like the lore and aesthetics of Guild Wars 2…
Text based RPGs are so unapealing. What a ridiculous statement.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Ha I’ve been waiting for the dueling option / open world pvp to be able to roleplay mr evil guy forever, and ANet still hasn’t put out either option yet. (I hate roleplaying without making use of game mechanics in one form or another, otherwise you’re just playing in a fancy chatroom) I don’t even get why half of the RP’ers in this game actually RP in guild wars 2 though. If you are of the I put my hand on your cheek and kiss you Oh im so lucky class of RP’er, you’re better off in a text based rpg.

Seriously, other than having fancy graphics to look at, guild wars 2 offers almost nothing to RP’ers, whereas text based rpg’s have a way better way of blending RP with the in-game world and gameplay, allowing players to have an actual effect on the world in a way more complex manner, and play a way bigger part in the world.

Oh, you weren’t there to see our open world IC battles around Tyria with the guild.. Still, for me, any RP is welcome.. from “bar” RP (you know, static and such), to the “Epic” types (going out fighting stuff, doing IC dungeons, etc.). RP helps me relax, forget the stress and worries of my daily routine, and if i have good RP “partners”, i don’t care what we do, as long as it’s there.

RP is what kept me in the game (and spending money on it) for this long, as after leveling 600+ levels with all my chars, the game became a tad repetitive. If i can’t RP, i have no reason to exist here.

And yes, a dueling option would’ve been nice.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

I have a better solution to this whole mess : How about adding a universal translator to the game, translating every language (including English, French, German, Spanish or maybe Greek) into Swahili?

That way everyone will see the same thing, so no more complaints!

Wazo nzuri! Hebu kufanya hivyo!

I couldn’t stop myself

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

I have a better solution to this whole mess : How about adding a universal translator to the game, translating every language (including English, French, German, Spanish or maybe Greek) into Swahili?

That way everyone will see the same thing, so no more complaints!

Wazo nzuri! Hebu kufanya hivyo!

I couldn’t stop myself

Asante sana!!
Hehe, couldn’t resist either…

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

Hapa kwenda, mimi kwa kweli kama lugha. Uzuri sauti, na anataka kuimba.

Ok, let’s not derail the thread.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

Indeed.
In any case, i hope a solution is around the corner for all this, i would hate to abandon this game. What makes me ponder however, is the silence.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

I hope that the silence is because of the Dev’s working on patching up inevitable problems with implementation to begin with, and we will hear from them. After all, even a small change to a complex system like that is not a task for 20 minutes, right?

I guess we will see in the next couple of weeks, but it’s imperative that we keep raising our hands in objection until we receive an answer.

And of course, we must not under any circumstances fall into flaming and derogative posts, those most certainly will not help.

We must be like Gandhi – peacefully fight for what we need.

PS. And I don’t speak suahili all that well :P

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Posted by: Hystery.8415

Hystery.8415

I hope that the silence is because of the Dev’s working on patching up inevitable problems with implementation to begin with, and we will hear from them.

They are in vacation. But it’s great to have hopes.

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Aelius Brightmane (Charr, Zerk Grenade Engineer, 80) |
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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

I hope that the silence is because of the Dev’s working on patching up inevitable problems with implementation to begin with, and we will hear from them.

They are in vacation. But it’s great to have hopes.

Yeah, i’m betting on that as well. Still, they shouldn’t have added the megaserver to almost every area in the game if their entire team wasn’t present to fix/address the issues it brought with it.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: zwierz.9012

zwierz.9012

kitten, I want to go on vacation too… I guess I gotta make an mmo of my own. With blackjack and hookers!

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Posted by: Hystery.8415

Hystery.8415

If you put townclothes, I’m in.

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Aelius Brightmane (Charr, Zerk Grenade Engineer, 80) |
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Posted by: Hystery.8415

Hystery.8415

(Slight bump, I can’t let this thing fall into third page, it’s not right)

Also, to justify this bump, does someone know when they actually come back from vacation or whatever they are doing? Just to know when we could expect an actual answer to this problem. I know, I’ve hopes, but well.

Piken Square RPer ~ Growl Bladeskin (Charr, Zerk Warrior 80) |
Aelius Brightmane (Charr, Zerk Grenade Engineer, 80) |
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Posted by: Gwaymor.4835

Gwaymor.4835

Advice:
1. Make more money Rl.
2. Make even more money RL.
3. Buy your own development company.
4. Order you own game.
5. Put this list as an answer to every game-play thread there is:).

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Posted by: UncleOris.1892

UncleOris.1892

I am getting non-offensive posts in this thread infracted, so I hope at least this one will go through:

It makes no sense for Anet to play the unseeing in this case. The megaserver is a complete desaster and the complaints will keep coming. if they won’t get tended to, this game will die – It’s not even a question at that point.

Of course we could debate wether or not a B2P-Game can truely ‘die’ or not but that’s besides the point.

I have seen not a single soul, except the few extreme outliners, that like this change. In fact, most people hate it. And you have to remember this: Very few people visit these forums. Even fewer post in them.

And every single piece of feedback. Every_single_one that I heard from InGame. Be it my guild, my friends or the general chat. Everything was negative and there where a lot of threats of “leaving the game”.

Just answer us for the love of god – make things right.

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Posted by: Vigorous Raven.1826

Vigorous Raven.1826

I just hope that when a Anet rep turns up they actually say something constructive to ease our worries other than “it’s being looked into.” That’s never helpful or calming, if anything it always makes me worry more. I wish this game was more RP friendly. I see no reason why they haven’t made it so, when it has such potential.

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Posted by: StriderShinryu.6923

StriderShinryu.6923

(Slight bump, I can’t let this thing fall into third page, it’s not right)

Also, to justify this bump, does someone know when they actually come back from vacation or whatever they are doing? Just to know when we could expect an actual answer to this problem. I know, I’ve hopes, but well.

Depending on the work place, it could be Tuesday as some workplaces have Monday off due to Easter being a holiday that falls on a Sunday. Otherwise, Monday.

Of course, that’s just when ANet should be back in the office. Who knows when (or, knowing ANet, even if) we’re going to get a substantial response.

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Posted by: Jinroh.4251

Jinroh.4251

I still think it’s dumb that they said mega servers were going to get rid of overflow but that is not the case at all.

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

I still think it’s dumb that they said mega servers were going to get rid of overflow but that is not the case at all.

If you are in an overflow, you’re on a map that hasn’t had megaserver enabled yet (of which there are many).

Eilir Eirasdottir, Guardian, Tarnished Coast
Painbow.6059: Ignore what anyone else who doesn’t agree with me has said because its wrong.

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Posted by: kuscheldrow.6415

kuscheldrow.6415

Even overflows are better sorted than the megaserver actually is, what I find is quite funny.

Trahearne <3

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

Asacledhae.2650

I am getting non-offensive posts in this thread infracted, so I hope at least this one will go through:

It makes no sense for Anet to play the unseeing in this case. The megaserver is a complete desaster and the complaints will keep coming. if they won’t get tended to, this game will die – It’s not even a question at that point.

Of course we could debate wether or not a B2P-Game can truely ‘die’ or not but that’s besides the point.

I have seen not a single soul, except the few extreme outliners, that like this change. In fact, most people hate it. And you have to remember this: Very few people visit these forums. Even fewer post in them.

And every single piece of feedback. Every_single_one that I heard from InGame. Be it my guild, my friends or the general chat. Everything was negative and there where a lot of threats of “leaving the game”.

Just answer us for the love of god – make things right.

That is exactly how i feel about all this. I’m not a forum person myself. In fact, i rarely visit the forums, with the exception of bug reporting, troubleshooting, and maybe the occasional help towards players who have an issue i have a solution for.

I prefer to spend my time playing the game, instead of posting. But lately, it hurts me to play the game, as it’s not comfortable anymore, nor gives me the fun prior to the megaserver.

If you ask me a B2P game sustains it’s income by micro transactions, like the gem store. And us RPlayers have spent a LOT there. Heck i even spent money on gems for stupid items, simply to support A-net and see the game thrive…

I have to report yet another incident that happened earlier today. Some old people from our guild, who had left for about a year, decided to come back and check the game. They came, saw, and ran away screaming due to the megaserver. In fact, one of them stated that “the reason he joined up Piken Square, was to be able to RP in peace, which now it’s virtually impossible to do”.

And it’s the same for us remaining. Excluding Queensdale or Divinity’s Reach, anywhere else trying to RP is simply a terrible idea. So what’s going to happen if those two areas get infected by the megaserver too?

We have no issue with the other updates, we adapt. MMOs change, and it’s good to see variety and new stuff to do. But a community mashup the way it’s implemented now? No, it ruins the game. Not only the RP community, but even more.

Some say that most of the Devs are on Easter Holidays these days, so i wait. But yes, for the love of god, please give us an answer!

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Hannelore.8153

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So many posts raising conspiracy theories about ANet not caring because they are silent, without realizing that it is holidays and they are on vacation.

You’re just blowing hot air at the wind.

I sympathise with alot of what people say, but when you’re repeatedly told that they are not here and keep going on about how they’re doing it on purpose, everyone is just going to stop listening to you completely, especially ANet.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

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More voices = more chances of being heard. And if A-net is indeed on vacation, having our thread on the first page with 1000+ more voices added to it, will definitely attract attention. Oh, and… The day a company starts ignoring it’s customers and supporters, will be the day it dies.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Hannelore.8153

Hannelore.8153

More voices = more chances of being heard. And if A-net is indeed on vacation, having our thread on the first page with 1000+ more voices added to it, will definitely attract attention. Oh, and… The day a company starts ignoring it’s customers and supporters, will be the day it dies.

Actually, due to how forums work, its almost guaranteed that the more pages you keep adding to this thread, the less of them will be read.

A company does not have infinite time and resouces for its employees.

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Posted by: Kravick.4906

Kravick.4906

More voices = more chances of being heard. And if A-net is indeed on vacation, having our thread on the first page with 1000+ more voices added to it, will definitely attract attention. Oh, and… The day a company starts ignoring it’s customers and supporters, will be the day it dies.

Sadly, this isn’t true in this day and age any more. Otherwise companies like EA, NCSoft, UbiSoft, ActiVision, and countless others wouldn’t still be in business.

Stuff goes here.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

I am getting non-offensive posts in this thread infracted, so I hope at least this one will go through:

It makes no sense for Anet to play the unseeing in this case. The megaserver is a complete desaster and the complaints will keep coming. if they won’t get tended to, this game will die – It’s not even a question at that point.

Of course we could debate wether or not a B2P-Game can truely ‘die’ or not but that’s besides the point.

I have seen not a single soul, except the few extreme outliners, that like this change. In fact, most people hate it. And you have to remember this: Very few people visit these forums. Even fewer post in them.

And every single piece of feedback. Every_single_one that I heard from InGame. Be it my guild, my friends or the general chat. Everything was negative and there where a lot of threats of “leaving the game”.

Just answer us for the love of god – make things right.

That is exactly how i feel about all this. I’m not a forum person myself. In fact, i rarely visit the forums, with the exception of bug reporting, troubleshooting, and maybe the occasional help towards players who have an issue i have a solution for.

I prefer to spend my time playing the game, instead of posting. But lately, it hurts me to play the game, as it’s not comfortable anymore, nor gives me the fun prior to the megaserver.

If you ask me a B2P game sustains it’s income by micro transactions, like the gem store. And us RPlayers have spent a LOT there. Heck i even spent money on gems for stupid items, simply to support A-net and see the game thrive…

I have to report yet another incident that happened earlier today. Some old people from our guild, who had left for about a year, decided to come back and check the game. They came, saw, and ran away screaming due to the megaserver. In fact, one of them stated that “the reason he joined up Piken Square, was to be able to RP in peace, which now it’s virtually impossible to do”.

And it’s the same for us remaining. Excluding Queensdale or Divinity’s Reach, anywhere else trying to RP is simply a terrible idea. So what’s going to happen if those two areas get infected by the megaserver too?

We have no issue with the other updates, we adapt. MMOs change, and it’s good to see variety and new stuff to do. But a community mashup the way it’s implemented now? No, it ruins the game. Not only the RP community, but even more.

Some say that most of the Devs are on Easter Holidays these days, so i wait. But yes, for the love of god, please give us an answer!

Did they ran away screaming due to the mass hysteria some of you have created, or because the Megaserver is really bad for RP? Because not everybody agrees with the latter-including RPers from the RP servers (sadly, they are quickly attacked on this thread without given a chance to peacefully dissent-the “agreeing to disagree” concept must be quite dead.)

The Megaserver was never intended to “divide” your servers (much less “kill RP”-which IMHO can’t be killed anyway), but to enhance a more inclusive community. There must be bugs and kinks that aren’t currently working properly and need to be taken a look at. Hating on the megaserver won’t actually help your case, to be honest with you, and whatever you may think of it (help your case by offering constructive suggestions, not “revert the Megaserver or else!” threats-many players have made decent suggestions as how the system could be theoretically improved.)

Every time I read a post about how a player loves the megaserver, I think of this thread because it’s the complete opposite. No one’s side is “better”, but it surely can’t be “bad” for GW2.

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Posted by: Asacledhae.2650

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Did they ran away screaming due to the mass hysteria some of you have created, or because the Megaserver is really bad for RP? Because not everybody agrees with the latter-including RPers from the RP servers (sadly, they are quickly attacked on this thread without given a chance to peacefully dissent-the “agreeing to disagree” concept must be quite dead.)

The Megaserver was never intended to “divide” your servers (much less “kill RP”-which IMHO can’t be killed anyway), but to enhance a more inclusive community. There must be bugs and kinks that aren’t currently working properly and need to be taken a look at. Hating on the megaserver won’t actually help your case, to be honest with you, and whatever you may think of it (help your case by offering constructive suggestions, not “revert the Megaserver or else!” threats-many players have made decent suggestions as how the system could be theoretically improved.)

Every time I read a post about how a player loves the megaserver, I think of this thread because it’s the complete opposite. No one’s side is “better”, but it surely can’t be “bad” for GW2.

If you think that the inability to RP without being trolled is “mass hysteria”, then i have nothing else to say to you. And no, they didn’t leave because of this thread. It’s common sense, which obviously some people can’t grasp or understand. I must ask, however.. Are you part of any RP guild, or an RP community? Do you even RP at all?

Maybe the megaserver was never intended to divide our servers, but that’s exactly what it did at the state it is right now. And before you accuse me of assaulting A-net without constructive suggestions, be kind enough to search the forum and see how many times i’ve posted suggestions, not only on this thread, but to others. Unless of course you’re bored to do so. I’m simply tired of repeating myself without being heard.

And to clear this up, no i do not hate the megaserver. I simply hate what it brought with it, and how unplayable the game has become. So i would encourage you to try and RP in let’s say Kessex Hills for a couple of hours, without being trolled, or having a bunch of people spamming emotes on you for doing so.

Sadly, this isn’t true in this day and age any more. Otherwise companies like EA, NCSoft, UbiSoft, ActiVision, and countless others wouldn’t still be in business.

Maybe you’re right about this… Either way, time will tell of what’s going to happen, i suppose.

The reasons we love the new downgra…..er….feature patch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On3Ya0_4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqJlKjwrKB4

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

Did they ran away screaming due to the mass hysteria some of you have created, or because the Megaserver is really bad for RP? Because not everybody agrees with the latter-including RPers from the RP servers (sadly, they are quickly attacked on this thread without given a chance to peacefully dissent-the “agreeing to disagree” concept must be quite dead.)

The Megaserver was never intended to “divide” your servers (much less “kill RP”-which IMHO can’t be killed anyway), but to enhance a more inclusive community. There must be bugs and kinks that aren’t currently working properly and need to be taken a look at. Hating on the megaserver won’t actually help your case, to be honest with you, and whatever you may think of it (help your case by offering constructive suggestions, not “revert the Megaserver or else!” threats-many players have made decent suggestions as how the system could be theoretically improved.)

Every time I read a post about how a player loves the megaserver, I think of this thread because it’s the complete opposite. No one’s side is “better”, but it surely can’t be “bad” for GW2.

If you think that the inability to RP without being trolled is “mass hysteria”, then i have nothing else to say to you. And no, they didn’t leave because of this thread. It’s common sense, which obviously some people can’t grasp or understand. I must ask, however.. Are you part of any RP guild, or an RP community? Do you even RP at all?

Maybe the megaserver was never intended to divide our servers, but that’s exactly what it did at the state it is right now. And before you accuse me of assaulting A-net without constructive suggestions, be kind enough to search the forum and see how many times i’ve posted suggestions, not only on this thread, but to others. Unless of course you’re bored to do so. I’m simply tired of repeating myself without being heard.

And to clear this up, no i do not hate the megaserver. I simply hate what it brought with it, and how unplayable the game has become. So i would encourage you to try and RP in let’s say Kessex Hills for a couple of hours, without being trolled, or having a bunch of people spamming emotes on you for doing so.

Sadly, this isn’t true in this day and age any more. Otherwise companies like EA, NCSoft, UbiSoft, ActiVision, and countless others wouldn’t still be in business.

Maybe you’re right about this… Either way, time will tell of what’s going to happen, i suppose.

The argument "if you disagree with us you must not be a “tr00 roleplayer” or “be against roleplaying” doesn’t work. I love RP and RPers. A friendly RP poster here from TC was attacked for simply disagreeing with the mass “megaserver must suck for RP” idea. Also, implying that people who disagree with you must by all means lack common sense is not only offensive, but irrational, as there are other points of view out there other than our own (including yours, to be sure.)

I surely oppose anti RP trolls much as you do. I will report them happily and help keep the game clean from their toxicity. Don’t let them keep you from enjoying the game your own way.

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Posted by: Phantom.8130

Phantom.8130

The argument "if you disagree with us you must not be a “tr00 roleplayer” or “be against roleplaying” doesn’t work. I love RP and RPers. A friendly RP poster here from TC was attacked for simply disagreeing with the mass “megaserver must suck for RP” idea. Also, implying that people who disagree with you must by all means lack common sense is not only offensive, but irrational, as there are other points of view out there other than our own (including yours, to be sure.)

I surely oppose anti RP trolls much as you do. I will report them happily and help keep the game clean from their toxicity. Don’t let them keep you from enjoying the game your own way.

You do realize that any can look back and see the reality, and see that it’s quite different than the one you’re spinning, correct? You’re one of two posters who came into this thread and immediately began insulting everyone, then immediately began playing the victim the instant they returned fire. Furthermore, you’ve continuously overlooked the facts that have been presented to you and have simply been repeating “you’re all wrong because I say so.”

Simply put, you are wrong, but not because I say so. But because the facts of the situation say so. The Megaserver has split up the RP community. Fact. The Megaserver has split up guilds. Fact. The Megaserver mashed all the different language servers into a single one, then slapped a bandaid solution onto it. Fact. These are the things that have actually happened. You might feel that these things are good for the game, but thousands of other players (and anyone who has even a minor bit of business sense) do not.

If you had simply stated that you like the Megaserver, that would have been perfectly fine. No one would have taken exception to it. Perhaps people may have tried debating with you, but would have done so in a fair and rational manner. You didn’t, however, and are still trying to act like a victim when it’s your own actions that prompted any negative responses that were directed to you. At this point, it really is coming off as textbook trolling.

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

You can block trolls to quiet down your chat window but you can’t remove them from the game world. They are incredibly disruptive, and ignoring the giant norn jumping up and down on top of you only works for so long.

Regardless of the presence of trolls, the larger issue is the lack of roleplayers, which is what the mega servers are providing. It is more difficult to find like minded people under the new system which is completely contrary to the mission of the new system. Ergo, it is problematic and flawed, and thus worthy of reconsideration and possibly redesign.

It’s really as simple as that.

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Posted by: Suddenflame.2601

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Main issue i see here is no one is differing between NA and EU. The forums contain both but people play on different megaservers (NA and EU are still separate).

I do not know the case of EU since I am in NA. The NA servers from what I seen are doing great (since we dont have the language barrier in the first place as English is pretty much the most common). I havn’t seen the issue of breaking up the Guilds as every map i been on that uses megaserver (which by the way are not many atm and would never break up the guilds as they are not populated enough to do so) I have been with my Guildmates each time.

NA server towns are not widely populated such as the Grove is still pretty dead as is. I think the problem lies in EU servers more than NA.

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Posted by: Phantom.8130

Phantom.8130

Main issue i see here is no one is differing between NA and EU. The forums contain both but people play on different megaservers (NA and EU are still separate).

I do not know the case of EU since I am in NA. The NA servers from what I seen are doing great (since we dont have the language barrier in the first place as English is pretty much the most common). I havn’t seen the issue of breaking up the Guilds as every map i been on that uses megaserver (which by the way are not many atm and would never break up the guilds as they are not populated enough to do so) I have been with my Guildmates each time.

NA server towns are not widely populated such as the Grove is still pretty dead as is. I think the problem lies in EU servers more than NA.

From all the reports I’ve been reading, the ones getting hit the worst by this are the EU servers, the RP communities, and large PvE guilds. In that order, as well. There’s also smaller segments that are getting hit hard by it too. I’ve heard reports of small guilds from the same server being put into separate maps even when they’re in the same party.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

Star Ace is basically a troll at this point. He has gotten so many good answers to his questions and concerns it’s almost insulting that he’s still trying to play some sort of poor victim in this thread.

But that’s the thing I was talking about, there certaily are few outliners in the case of the megaserver that somehow think that this is a great change. However – not one of them seems to be able to explain “how” this change is good, not just for themselves, but for everyone. Because, as we’ve established, most people hate this change – going so far as to prompting them to |leave the game|.

You know, now that I think about, when everyone could easily become a jedi in SWG – The community also hated it, except a few outliners going “yay now i can haz teh laz0rsw3rd”. Guess what happened to that game? Yep. Servers shut down, baby.

Can’t refrain from attacking others? Isn’t it better to accept there are many sides to a story? Clearly your opinion is valid too. These “outliers” are not wrong just because they disagree with you.

And you certainly can’t speak for everyone, and not even “most” players. Not that it’s wrong to be a minority at ALL, but to claim that “everybody” or “most players” “hate” the Megaserver is not true.

I don’t feel like a victim at ALL, but it’s irrefutable that some people are being attacked on this thread for simply disagreeing with the premise that the Megaserver is “bad for RP.” Many of us contend that it doesn’t have to be, that’s all there is to it; feel free to disagree, but “trolling” is the farthest thing in my mind when stating my thoughts.