Guild Wars 2

Aerlen.5326:

Soulmyr.8094:

No human cultural armor should not be available to anyone but humans. This set is a pure rip off and should be removed. People will get a chance of refund and return of the skin they transmuted over. THE END
The majority wanted it to be removed and we succeeded. Couple of you will just have to deal with it.

You’re aware some people will also be losing their armor, yes? There are several people who bought and spent the 120 gold for human T3 light as a skin for their exotic armor. They then reskinned the armor with flamekissed as an upgrade. Last I heard, Anet has already said if they dislike the new flamekissed that they aren’t getting their T3 armor back – it’ll revert to the original exotic armor. Skin is lost. Forever. They have to rebuy it.

So there are human characters who bought human T3 cultural who are going to be kittened over by this – it’s not a fair solution. At all.

You do realize Anet will return the skinned armor in it’s original state?

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

I hate to break this to you but that’s not there problem. Lets say you decide to go out to a fancy restaurant to eat. Make reservations to go to said restaurant you go buy a new suit/dress get your hair done rent a car etc. When you get there the restaurant is closed even thought you had reservations. There not responsible for your other transactions. That was your call to spend all your gold/cash on those item’s. They already said they will be returning items you transmuted over to you.

Your example is Bad in all senses of the word. For starters this is a virtual Transaction/Mini Transaction not a resturant.. Usually when companies dont have to face to face much with their customers they are more appt to not put in as much effort to correct your needs than if your standing there. I promise you if your exampled happened to me (which ironically it sort of did in a weird way) i was fed for a week for free at the resturant to make up for their mistake.. if Subway can make me happy then Sureley Anet can..

Your argument is mute and also doesnt hold water with me as well!

ronpierce.2760:

That’s not the same thing. That’s two different businesses. This is a more realistic interpretation of what happened. (IE this became a scam)

“If someone said to you Buy this rock for 100 dollars and you can have this awesome gold bar worth 5000 dollars. Then once you bought the 100 dollar rock said you’re not getting the gold bar, you’re getting a STICKER of the gold bar, its worth 25 cents, deal with it. You can go through a terrible process to get your rock back if you spend a lot of time going through our process, and no you don’t get your 100 dollars back.”

Stop with this silly examples. Your business with Anet ends when you purchase the gems. What you do with it is your decision.

And I would not care at all, even though I got my “Emperor” title a while ago.
This would be the only reason for me to get upset, if the armor purchased from the shop would count to the achievement, thus introducing a slight p2w.

Soulmyr.8094:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

There will still be a flame armor and their changes will still match so nothing will go to waist. In the end they customized to match the theme not the model of the armor.

One of the biggest aspects of the “endgame” is kitting out your character in specific armour parts. You can have items that are similar in theme but very different in style.

As it stands the replacement flamekissed light armour is going to have to be outstanding to in any way lessen the impact of this debacle.

Based on past trends Anet will probably reskin a terrible light set and be genuinely surprised at the outcry.

Soulmyr.8094:

ronpierce.2760:

That’s not the same thing. That’s two different businesses. This is a more realistic interpretation of what happened. (IE this became a scam)

“If someone said to you Buy this rock for 100 dollars and you can have this awesome gold bar worth 5000 dollars. Then once you bought the 100 dollar rock said you’re not getting the gold bar, you’re getting a STICKER of the gold bar, its worth 25 cents, deal with it. You can go through a terrible process to get your rock back if you spend a lot of time going through our process, and no you don’t get your 100 dollars back.”

Stop with this silly examples. Your business with Anet ends when you purchase the gems. What you do with it is your decision.

Im sure people would stop with their silly examples if people like you who directly attack others posts and seem to not get infractions have to be shown in the easiest way possible to explain more than the onsided point of view you/they have mabe some of us wouldnt have to use silly first grade examples to communicate with some of the people on this forum

Aerlen.5326:

Last I heard, Anet has already said if they dislike the new flamekissed that they aren’t getting their T3 armor back – it’ll revert to the original exotic armor. Skin is lost. Forever. They have to rebuy it.

That is only an assumption due to the fact that a player by themselves cannot revert the skin, since a splitter will only give you back the item’s original skin.

ArenaNet has said that if you do not like the new skin, you can get a full refund and that support will take care of your individual needs, which implies they will fully fix the problem.

ronpierce.2760:

That’s not the same thing. That’s two different businesses. This is a more realistic interpretation of what happened. (IE this became a scam)

“If someone said to you Buy this rock for 100 dollars and you can have this awesome gold bar worth 5000 dollars. Then once you bought the 100 dollar rock said you’re not getting the gold bar, you’re getting a STICKER of the gold bar, its worth 25 cents, deal with it. You can go through a terrible process to get your rock back if you spend a lot of time going through our process, and no you don’t get your 100 dollars back.”

I am sorry but what your saying makes no since. The armor has no value you dont pay real money for it so there for its value is zero.

BeoErgon.9107:

Aerlen.5326:

Please tell me how much gold all of you complaining lost out on because flamekissed existed for 24 hours.

Not a peny.
I was not trying to save my gold, I was trying to save my game.

What people don’t seem to understand here is that the error comes from Anet, not from those that complained first.
They were destroying one of the fundamentals of the game. We shouted. They looked and admitted it was silly. We were rigth to complain.

You people bought the armor with money but that armor should never have been there in the first place. Anet removes it. You complain that you were scammed. You are right.

See? Both parties are right to complain. Why should other players compensate you for some bad decisions that the game made?

And how was everyone supposed to know it wasn’t supposed to be there in the first place? You assume everyone knows every armor by heart. I sure as heck don’t, playing light armor classes is new to me so if I wouldn’t have gone on the forums like I do every day – I’d have never known and I would have bought it – thinking it was a reskinned karma or WvW armor like the other two. I would have been scammed too.

Why should you compensate? Because of the huge kittening amount of bullkitten created. Do you think Anet would have done what they did without all these threads complaining? Those people are out of their armor because of you guys – sorry but it’s true. You cost some people 120 gold and the loss of their T3 cultural they paid for and you know, if I saw an ounce of anyone being sorry instead of entitled brats, I’d think differently but talking about “saving the game”? Please. You didn’t save anything. All you did was get an armor removed and tick off a bunch of players. That’s it.

I had bought new light skin, now this skin will be edited. This not fair, isn’t my problem if company did this great mess. Arena net did this mess and plyers will be punished ? If i dont like this new skin and i dont want my gems back ?
I dont want a new skin, i dont want my money back i want my skin.
ArenaNet offered me a product with specific features which bought GEMS with real money to purchase the product in game.
Past few days and because some people claim I will be punished losing the product which they OFFERED ME and I got in the company store.

Axialbloom.8109:

Soulmyr.8094:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

There will still be a flame armor and their changes will still match so nothing will go to waist. In the end they customized to match the theme not the model of the armor.

One of the biggest aspects of the “endgame” is kitting out your character in specific armour parts. You can have items that are similar in theme but very different in style.

As it stands the replacement flamekissed light armour is going to have to be outstanding to in any way lessen the impact of this debacle.

Based on past trends Anet will probably reskin a terrible light set and be genuinely surprised at the outcry.

You really think they would be that stupid to come up with another recycled set after all this? I’m pretty sure the new set will be amazing and most people won’t even want the refund.

Also, just think of the sheer pressure that’s on the shoulders of the artists right now. They’re probably getting heat over the cultural ordeal and they have to be kitten sure its worth the switch. I honestly feel terrible for them. :/

Soulmyr.8094:

Axialbloom.8109:

Soulmyr.8094:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

There will still be a flame armor and their changes will still match so nothing will go to waist. In the end they customized to match the theme not the model of the armor.

One of the biggest aspects of the “endgame” is kitting out your character in specific armour parts. You can have items that are similar in theme but very different in style.

As it stands the replacement flamekissed light armour is going to have to be outstanding to in any way lessen the impact of this debacle.

Based on past trends Anet will probably reskin a terrible light set and be genuinely surprised at the outcry.

You really think they would be that stupid to come up with another recycled set after all this? I’m pretty sure the new set will be amazing and most people won’t even want the refund.

Transmuted over my t3 human armor like hell I wont want a refund.

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

I hate to break this to you but that’s not there problem. Lets say you decide to go out to a fancy restaurant to eat. Make reservations to go to said restaurant you go buy a new suit/dress get your hair done rent a car etc. When you get there the restaurant is closed even thought you had reservations. There not responsible for your other transactions. That was your call to spend all your gold/cash on those item’s. They already said they will be returning items you transmuted over to you.

But the restaurant is closed. And people are justifiably not happy about it. Some people did get into the restaurant on time and ordered the steak. Now who knows what they’ll get? Lobster? A salad?! It’s a madhouse! What kind of terrible restaurant is this anyway?!

ShinNakon.9085:

Soulmyr.8094:

Axialbloom.8109:

Soulmyr.8094:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

There will still be a flame armor and their changes will still match so nothing will go to waist. In the end they customized to match the theme not the model of the armor.

One of the biggest aspects of the “endgame” is kitting out your character in specific armour parts. You can have items that are similar in theme but very different in style.

As it stands the replacement flamekissed light armour is going to have to be outstanding to in any way lessen the impact of this debacle.

Based on past trends Anet will probably reskin a terrible light set and be genuinely surprised at the outcry.

You really think they would be that stupid to come up with another recycled set after all this? I’m pretty sure the new set will be amazing and most people won’t even want the refund.

Transmuted over my t3 human armor like hell I wont want a refund.

And you will get it. You will also get your T3 back, how hard is that for you to comprehend?

Soulmyr.8094:

Axialbloom.8109:

Soulmyr.8094:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

There will still be a flame armor and their changes will still match so nothing will go to waist. In the end they customized to match the theme not the model of the armor.

One of the biggest aspects of the “endgame” is kitting out your character in specific armour parts. You can have items that are similar in theme but very different in style.

As it stands the replacement flamekissed light armour is going to have to be outstanding to in any way lessen the impact of this debacle.

Based on past trends Anet will probably reskin a terrible light set and be genuinely surprised at the outcry.

You really think they would be that stupid to come up with another recycled set after all this? I’m pretty sure the new set will be amazing and most people won’t even want the refund.

That hits the nail on the head.. Balls in their court now.. Fingers crossed … this light set better be the design of the new year or come december many might just finally move to new games and shelve this frustration. Thats what im afraid of cause i love this game and would hate to see bad moves force it down the drain!

Healix.5819:

Aerlen.5326:

Last I heard, Anet has already said if they dislike the new flamekissed that they aren’t getting their T3 armor back – it’ll revert to the original exotic armor. Skin is lost. Forever. They have to rebuy it.

That is only an assumption due to the fact that a player by themselves cannot revert the skin, since a splitter will only give you back the item’s original skin.

ArenaNet has said that if you do not like the new skin, you can get a full refund and that support will take care of your individual needs, which implies they will fully fix the problem.

Someone said they asked Anet about this and submitted a ticket only to be told that no, they will not get their T3 skin back. They will get the original exotic armor back.

If that’s changed, good on Anet, but I haven’t heard it has.

lol at the restaurant comments. What is this, Business Class 101? Might go hand in hand with the graphic design entry class that was scheduled 5 pages prior.

To say that we bought gems not armor is semantics. Gems are the way to get real life money into the game. The ‘gem’ itself does nothing until it’s traded.

I WANT THE ARMOR I BOUGHT. PERIOD. No substitutes, nor re-working.

Soulmyr.8094:

Axialbloom.8109:

Soulmyr.8094:

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

hchadw.1097:

RedStar.4218:

Yes some players might have bought gems specifically for this armor. But that doesn’t change the fact that in the future they have 800 gems they can use to buy something else they want.
And honestly, I’m pretty sure that for most buyers, this wasn’t their first time using their credit card to buy gems. When Anet releases a new skin, they will probably buy it. Or the one released after. Or after.

Point is : they aren’t going to lose those 800 gems. There’s nothing disingenuous about that.

No the point IS lots of folks feel bait and switched.

How can you feel bait and switched thought? There offering you a refund bait and switch would be telling you we have product A then u buying Product A it being product B and us saying tough luck no refund. There offering to do the right thing? I have mentioned it numerous times. How can you feel baited and switch when you rent a product. When you rent a car if the rental company does not have said promised car in stock you get the next best thing.

And how are they going to fix the other things, like give people their old armor back, Money spent on Hairkits/ Dyes to match armor up. Weapons to match the new armor.. just seems many are being shortsided with there solution not realizing the problem is much larger than more complex than.. (you get your gems back whats your problem) attitude.. ANet Mods and Devs are acting the sameway.. u work for them ?

There will still be a flame armor and their changes will still match so nothing will go to waist. In the end they customized to match the theme not the model of the armor.

One of the biggest aspects of the “endgame” is kitting out your character in specific armour parts. You can have items that are similar in theme but very different in style.

As it stands the replacement flamekissed light armour is going to have to be outstanding to in any way lessen the impact of this debacle.

Based on past trends Anet will probably reskin a terrible light set and be genuinely surprised at the outcry.

You really think they would be that stupid to come up with another recycled set after all this? I’m pretty sure the new set will be amazing and most people won’t even want the refund.

Counterpoint – The other flamekissed sets.

Say they design an entirely new amazing flamekissed light armour set. Now the heavy and medium sets are just lazy reskins by comparison.

This is a pretty poor situation Anet have made for themselves.

angelpaladin.7921:

Khallis.5708:

Sunshine.4680:

I rolled a human for many reasons including t3 armor etc, people who are calling people who dislike the human cult armor being sold at the cash shop and calling them “kittenes” are morons. The set costs less than half of actual armor. That’s crap, how would you like it if something you paid hard time or money for, had to pick a certain race to get it and suddenly it’s for everyone?

It’s not fair to anyone who rolled a human for the armor because they cannot race change. So stop calling people who complain selfish, you kittenes are the ones being selfish because it’s all benefits for you.

10 real life dollars > make believe money

Your mistaken thought the armor did not cost 10 real life dollars. The armor cost 800gem’s which technically have no real monetary value since there backed by no governments.

Anet made true on there promise when you gave them 10 dollars they gave you 800 gem’s to spend.

This is correct. You choose to give them your money. If you do not feel that you got the value you were expecting perhaps you should refrain from giving them your money in the future.

I have a fear.. if we get more of these sparkling items legendarys will become even more useless
i mean, one of their features was the special glow they provided. If they continue, everything will be up in effects and we have our own little disco everywhere we go.

You got a legendary? that is sweet.. but check out my new gemstore ultra mega deluxe sparkly armor. It has the same effect as your weapon on me, but i got some fine fiery wings bursting out my back.. oh yeah…

Aerlen.5326:

Healix.5819:

Aerlen.5326:

Last I heard, Anet has already said if they dislike the new flamekissed that they aren’t getting their T3 armor back – it’ll revert to the original exotic armor. Skin is lost. Forever. They have to rebuy it.

That is only an assumption due to the fact that a player by themselves cannot revert the skin, since a splitter will only give you back the item’s original skin.

ArenaNet has said that if you do not like the new skin, you can get a full refund and that support will take care of your individual needs, which implies they will fully fix the problem.

Someone said they asked Anet about this and submitted a ticket only to be told that no, they will not get their T3 skin back. They will get the original exotic armor back.

If that’s changed, good on Anet, but I haven’t heard it has.

Gaile made a post implying they are in the process of coming up with ways to fix it on a case by case basis but they won’t do it until the new one is out or people will then want to go back the new one if they like and cause even more problems ect.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Flamekissed/first#post3276620

McSlappy.1372:

angelpaladin.7921:

Khallis.5708:

Sunshine.4680:

I rolled a human for many reasons including t3 armor etc, people who are calling people who dislike the human cult armor being sold at the cash shop and calling them “kittenes” are morons. The set costs less than half of actual armor. That’s crap, how would you like it if something you paid hard time or money for, had to pick a certain race to get it and suddenly it’s for everyone?

It’s not fair to anyone who rolled a human for the armor because they cannot race change. So stop calling people who complain selfish, you kittenes are the ones being selfish because it’s all benefits for you.

10 real life dollars > make believe money

Your mistaken thought the armor did not cost 10 real life dollars. The armor cost 800gem’s which technically have no real monetary value since there backed by no governments.

Anet made true on there promise when you gave them 10 dollars they gave you 800 gem’s to spend.

This is correct. You choose to give them your money. If you do not feel that you got the value you were expecting perhaps you should refrain from giving them your money in the future.

thats what i will be doing… LOTS of refraining LOL

So many joke names coming to mind now
SkinWars2
RefrainWars2
GemWars2
GuildWaits2 Har har har!

Jaken.6801:

I have a fear.. if we get more of these sparkling items legendarys will become even more useless
i mean, one of their features was the special glow they provided. If they continue, everything will be up in effects and we have our own little disco everywhere we go.

You got a legendary? that is sweet.. but check out my new gemstore ultra mega deluxe sparkly armor. It has the same effect as your weapon on me, but i got some fine fiery wings bursting out my back.. oh yeah…

ANet has to make money some how, as long as there are items in the game you do still have to work for (all meta achievements for example). Also you work just as hard for gemstore products as you do for Tier 3, both canb e bought with gold, you just have to convert the gold to gems for gemstore items.

Arnath.2319:

The Angle of Deth.2985:

To say that we bought gems not armor is semantics. Gems are the way to get real life money into the game. The ‘gem’ itself does nothing until it’s traded.

I WANT THE ARMOR I BOUGHT. PERIOD. No substitutes, nor re-working.

If you want to keep the armor then role a Human and put in the time and effort to buy it just like the thousands of other players did, dont be lazy, dont be selfish.

Its not ArenaNets fault you are not capable of understanding how the gem store works.

I AM human, and I don’t like the regular stuff, I like it with fire. Furthermore mine is on my PvP character, where you only get cultural armor at rank 80 (virtually impossible to reach by the way, never obtained yet) and it’s not as cool. I want what I bought, it fit my race, was exactly what I liked and I finally got cultural armor in PvP (and still paid a price for it) that suited me. And to be frank I honestly couldn’t care other races can wear my precious “cultural armor”, I’m not that greedy. #RacialEqualityInGW2!

The Angle of Deth.2985:

Arnath.2319:

The Angle of Deth.2985:

To say that we bought gems not armor is semantics. Gems are the way to get real life money into the game. The ‘gem’ itself does nothing until it’s traded.

I WANT THE ARMOR I BOUGHT. PERIOD. No substitutes, nor re-working.

If you want to keep the armor then role a Human and put in the time and effort to buy it just like the thousands of other players did, dont be lazy, dont be selfish.

Its not ArenaNets fault you are not capable of understanding how the gem store works.

Ah, I did role a human and I have tier 3 cultural armor. So no I’m not lazy or selfish.

And I do understand that I purchased a product that is may be replaced with an unknown item. I know how the gem store works. ^ ^ Meaning I WANT WHAT I PAID FOR. tyvm

The Angle of Deth.2985:

To say that we bought gems not armor is semantics. Gems are the way to get real life money into the game. The ‘gem’ itself does nothing until it’s traded.

I WANT THE ARMOR I BOUGHT. PERIOD. No substitutes, nor re-working.

No it is not semantics.
It makes a MASSIVE difference when it comes to legal issues and such.
In a situation where people had bought this item directly with money ArenaNet could get in major legal trouble for suddenly taking it away.
That is not the case here, since you never spent a single $ on the skin, but rather on the gems, and after you bought the gems their value no longer exists.

ronpierce.2760:

Arnath.2319:

The Angle of Deth.2985:

To say that we bought gems not armor is semantics. Gems are the way to get real life money into the game. The ‘gem’ itself does nothing until it’s traded.

I WANT THE ARMOR I BOUGHT. PERIOD. No substitutes, nor re-working.

If you want to keep the armor then role a Human and put in the time and effort to buy it just like the thousands of other players did, dont be lazy, dont be selfish.

Its not ArenaNets fault you are not capable of understanding how the gem store works.

I AM human, and I don’t like the regular stuff, I like it with fire. Furthermore mine is on my PvP character, where you only get cultural armor at rank 80 (virtually impossible to reach by the way, never obtained yet) and it’s not as cool. I want what I bought, it fit my race, was exactly what I liked and I finally got cultural armor in PvP (and still paid a price for it) that suited me. And to be frank I honestly couldn’t care other races can wear my precious “cultural armor”, I’m not that greedy. #RacialEqualityInGW2!

Not greedy but expect a virtually impossible to reach luxury item for a mere $10?

I have an idea for new skins….

How about some of the good ones from GW1? They can “flame” them or something and re-release them..

I would throw gems at them for a flame version of Norn Dervish armor from EOTN…. They could make all 3 variants and I would owe my soul to Mastercard.

Substance E.4852:

lol you are boycotting the store because they gave you an optional product you didn’t like? Be an adult and just don’t buy it. No need to act like a spoiled child who didn’t get their ideal toy for Christmas when they never even told their parents what it was in the first place.

lol you are responding to this post because they gave an opinion that is of no concern to you? Be an adult and just ignore it.

OT:

I find it interesting they are selling reskins in the gem store; it’s kind of a slap in the face in my opinion. Also, the only good flame armor they had was the light armor and now it’s gone lol (the medium coat is just too… puffy and I have always disliked that part of it and the heavy is just kind of…. normal; at least it has the helmet going for it…).

I expect they will sell quite well though as people don’t really give a kitten about how it actually looks as long as it’s all glowy and sparkly. You could sell most people a piece of kitten if you made it glow.

Sollith.3502:

Substance E.4852:

lol you are boycotting the store because they gave you an optional product you didn’t like? Be an adult and just don’t buy it. No need to act like a spoiled child who didn’t get their ideal toy for Christmas when they never even told their parents what it was in the first place.

lol you are responding to this post because they gave an opinion that is of no concern to you? Be an adult and just ignore it.

Might want to try that yourself first.

ronpierce.2760:

Jaken.6801:

I have a fear.. if we get more of these sparkling items legendarys will become even more useless
i mean, one of their features was the special glow they provided. If they continue, everything will be up in effects and we have our own little disco everywhere we go.

You got a legendary? that is sweet.. but check out my new gemstore ultra mega deluxe sparkly armor. It has the same effect as your weapon on me, but i got some fine fiery wings bursting out my back.. oh yeah…

ANet has to make money some how, as long as there are items in the game you do still have to work for (all meta achievements for example). Also you work just as hard for gemstore products as you do for Tier 3, both canb e bought with gold, you just have to convert the gold to gems for gemstore items.

I never denied them the means to make money.
t is just that if they continue that way they will end up undermineing every purpose of the other items existens (worst case).

“Working” for items in the gemstore should not be the point. They should be additional items to enhance the game experience, instead of devalueing it.

I can convert my mony into gems, if you mean that as “working”, but that should not be the case.
i glaldy spend real money on their offers, if they fit. however right now they are creating an imbalance between the ingame offers and the “optional” gemstore.

And in the end i was talking about an oversaturated market of special effects items, while the game from the beginning had very few of them.
Now every new item is sparkly, every armor is glowing, while these should have been for “prestige” items, like legendarys or hard to get items.

Substance E.4852:

lol you are boycotting the store because they gave you an optional product you didn’t like? Be an adult and just don’t buy it. No need to act like a spoiled child who didn’t get their ideal toy for Christmas when they never even told their parents what it was in the first place.

What if we told them for ages what kind of armor we want but they keep doing the opposite ? Like trenchcoats and more concrete concept art from their own game they aren’t using/making available ? Can we complain ?

kinda off topic sorry but is this the longest thread in form history?

You guys have a valid reason to be upset, but unfortunately this is a “deal with it” case.

They can’t please everyone with this, the current plan has the least amount of people negatively affected and you (“you” as people who bought gems for the sole reason of buying this set and had no plans to use gems on anything else ever in the future, and also happen to not like the skin replacement) are a minority.

angelpaladin.7921:

kinda off topic sorry but is this the longest thread in form history?

I don’t think so, I think the balance change threads get bigger than this.

jester.1246:

Caffynated.5713:

Creating an ultra rare armor set only available to the few thousand who bought it before being pulled from the TP does not seem the most fair or solve the issue of human cultural being made available to other races for 1/3 the price.

ANet goofed. Flamekissed is getting nerf. It happens.

Ok lets say they change looks for those who bought it. If I dont like it, I want my armor back in same state as it was on the day I applied your skin. I have even transmuted some norn cultural and other (already transmuted) armors. We will end up losing 50+ gold and some skins for supporting this game and purchasing in shop.

You’re making baseless assumptions. When the time comes, if you don’t like the replacement armor, contact support. end of.

angelpaladin.7921:

kinda off topic sorry but is this the longest thread in form history?

lol check out the Cantha thread.

It kind of debunks this rampant “anet was swayed by whiny forum folks” theory pretty hard.

I just created an opinion poll thread but it was merged. I thought it would be nice to see what ppl would like to happen next with this set and its skin. I also thought that it would make things easier for them to have a single thread that was only a poll so they could get peoples opinions without reading all the discussions but obviously not lol. I might as well continue it here as they merged it to here. : )

Copy/Paste/Edit the options with your replies. : )
(feel free to add new options ofc)

[ ] Change the skin and refund those that don’t like it.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl choose old or new.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl how used it on human T3 to keep old one.
[x] Keep the skin and change the other two sets to T3 skins.
[ ] Make three new sets making three T3 sets and three normal.

Personally, I don’t care what they do as long as I get to keep the existing skin. Unlikely I know : (

Star Ace.5207:

Soulmyr.8094:

Jaymee.1560:

Okay, it’s based off a T3 Racial armor. Big deal, lol… I think the flames compliment the armor nicely. but, oh, who am I kidding….? someone spent 120 gold of fake money, something that doesn’t truly exist and now they are outted imaginary money? Really? Just because the Flamekissed, in essence, is NOT exclusive? It’s because of that, me and others may be penalized someone else’s dislike of the concept, even though WE knowingly bought it cause we loved it.

Oh yes, that’s real fair.

And where do you think those 120g plus transmutation come from? You find it reasonable people spend hours to gather that amount of gold only to be presented by pretty much identical set that would cost less than half as much time or gold?

Do you find it reasonable for players who legally paid for such a thing to have it removed it from them as a bait and switch-which is what it all looks like right now?

Human T3 without the particle effects looks nicer than its fiery version, and is still exclusive to Humans. I consider the Flamekissed version to be an affordable variant, not necessarily an improvement. It shouldn’t have been based on human T3, IMHO, but it’s too late for that. The fact is that the human variant never lost its exclusiveness due to it being the original, “vanilla” model that no other race had access to.

There not removing what you “legally” payed for you didnt pay for the armor the armor was free. The gem’s you used to buy said armor where what you paid for. They are going at a minimal give you back 800 gem’s if you dont like the new armor redesign.

angelpaladin.7921:

Star Ace.5207:

Soulmyr.8094:

Jaymee.1560:

Okay, it’s based off a T3 Racial armor. Big deal, lol… I think the flames compliment the armor nicely. but, oh, who am I kidding….? someone spent 120 gold of fake money, something that doesn’t truly exist and now they are outted imaginary money? Really? Just because the Flamekissed, in essence, is NOT exclusive? It’s because of that, me and others may be penalized someone else’s dislike of the concept, even though WE knowingly bought it cause we loved it.

Oh yes, that’s real fair.

And where do you think those 120g plus transmutation come from? You find it reasonable people spend hours to gather that amount of gold only to be presented by pretty much identical set that would cost less than half as much time or gold?

Do you find it reasonable for players who legally paid for such a thing to have it removed it from them as a bait and switch-which is what it all looks like right now?

Human T3 without the particle effects looks nicer than its fiery version, and is still exclusive to Humans. I consider the Flamekissed version to be an affordable variant, not necessarily an improvement. It shouldn’t have been based on human T3, IMHO, but it’s too late for that. The fact is that the human variant never lost its exclusiveness due to it being the original, “vanilla” model that no other race had access to.

There not removing what you “legally” payed for you didnt pay for the armor the armor was free. The gem’s you used to buy said armor where what you paid for. They are going at a minimal give you back 800 gem’s if you dont like the new armor redesign.

If you go to a gas station and select unleaded fuel for your car, but yet the tank underground has diesel in it so you put Diesel in your car even thought the button you clicked was Unleaded isnt it the gas stations fault for having the wrong gas in the underground tank or is it your fault for making a mistake you couldnt have possibley known about? thats pretty much what ur saying!

The ratio “bad analogy”/“forum post” in this thread is through the roof :p

ANet made a mistake, it shouldn’t have released this armor set. They issued a recall, you’ll have to deal with it and move on. There could have been a lot of reasons to recall a set. Copyright infringement, quality problems, game crashes, damaging the ingame economy etc…

In this case, ANet concluded that the set is incompatible with the vision they have for cultural armor sets, so it is removed.

I just created an opinion poll thread but it was merged. I thought it would be nice to see what ppl would like to happen next with this set and its skin. I also thought that it would make things easier for them to have a single thread that was only a poll so they could get peoples opinions without reading all the discussions but obviously not lol. I might as well continue it here as they merged it to here. : )

Copy/Paste/Edit the options with your replies. : )
(feel free to add new options ofc)

[ ] Change the skin and refund those that don’t like it.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl choose old or new.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl how used it on human T3 to keep old one.
[x] Keep the skin and change the other two sets to T3 skins.
[ ] Make three new sets making three T3 sets and three normal.

Personally, I don’t care what they do as long as I get to keep the existing skin. Unlikely I know : (

5th time a charm! :-)

[ ] Change the skin and refund those that don’t like it.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl choose old or new.
[X] Change the skin but let ppl that used it on human T3 to keep old one.
[ ] Keep the skin and change the other two sets to T3 skins.
[ ] Make three new sets making three T3 sets and three normal.

hchadw.1097:

I just created an opinion poll thread but it was merged. I thought it would be nice to see what ppl would like to happen next with this set and its skin. I also thought that it would make things easier for them to have a single thread that was only a poll so they could get peoples opinions without reading all the discussions but obviously not lol. I might as well continue it here as they merged it to here. : )

Copy/Paste/Edit the options with your replies. : )
(feel free to add new options ofc)

[ ] Change the skin and refund those that don’t like it.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl choose old or new.
[ ] Change the skin but let ppl how used it on human T3 to keep old one.
[x] Keep the skin and change the other two sets to T3 skins.
[ ] Make three new sets making three T3 sets and three normal.

Personally, I don’t care what they do as long as I get to keep the existing skin. Unlikely I know : (

5th time a charm! :-)

YES!

At a minimum LET US KEEP OUR ARMOR!

I would love to be able to buy other tier 3 armors with the flaming touches. 120 g gem price equivalent.

hchadw.1097:

angelpaladin.7921:

Star Ace.5207:

Soulmyr.8094:

Jaymee.1560:

Okay, it’s based off a T3 Racial armor. Big deal, lol… I think the flames compliment the armor nicely. but, oh, who am I kidding….? someone spent 120 gold of fake money, something that doesn’t truly exist and now they are outted imaginary money? Really? Just because the Flamekissed, in essence, is NOT exclusive? It’s because of that, me and others may be penalized someone else’s dislike of the concept, even though WE knowingly bought it cause we loved it.

Oh yes, that’s real fair.

And where do you think those 120g plus transmutation come from? You find it reasonable people spend hours to gather that amount of gold only to be presented by pretty much identical set that would cost less than half as much time or gold?

Do you find it reasonable for players who legally paid for such a thing to have it removed it from them as a bait and switch-which is what it all looks like right now?

Human T3 without the particle effects looks nicer than its fiery version, and is still exclusive to Humans. I consider the Flamekissed version to be an affordable variant, not necessarily an improvement. It shouldn’t have been based on human T3, IMHO, but it’s too late for that. The fact is that the human variant never lost its exclusiveness due to it being the original, “vanilla” model that no other race had access to.

There not removing what you “legally” payed for you didnt pay for the armor the armor was free. The gem’s you used to buy said armor where what you paid for. They are going at a minimal give you back 800 gem’s if you dont like the new armor redesign.

If you go to a gas station and select unleaded fuel for your car, but yet the tank underground has diesel in it so you put Diesel in your car even thought the button you clicked was Unleaded isnt it the gas stations fault for having the wrong gas in the underground tank or is it your fault for making a mistake you couldnt have possibley known about? thats pretty much what ur saying!

Please explain to me how that makes any since at all? Payed for unleaded gas the key word being PAYED FOR.

This is like you choosing 7-11 over Circle K (both gas stations) so you can get gas and a slurpee. Pre Paying at the pump for gas pumping said gas going inside and wanting a slurpee and the machine being broke. When you ask for a refund for the gas there going to politely ask you to leave.

To avoid MANY furious/upset customers (myself included) i have a proposed solution for the flamekissed armor skin.

First, i want to preface this with where i am coming from personally. I spent 1600 gems, and 28 gold with the release of this flamekissed armor. I spent 800 for the armor skin, and because of how i forsaw this armor skin looking on a sylvari, i spent another 800 gems on a new character slot (my 9th character). i spent the 28 gold on two different rare Midnight dyes (Fire and Ice). If they redo the skin into something i personally hate (having a background and career in art, character appearances are the most important thing to me in this game), i will be furious with just the simple refund of 800 gems. If i hate it, i would definitely want the full 1600 gems and 28 gold back (i’d eat the time i spent playing the toon and leveling with just minor dissatisfaction). I only created this character and spent all those gems and gold SOLEY because of the way i enjoyed the appearance of the flamekissed skin on a Sylvari.

SOLUTION: to avoid all the headache and hassle with dealing with customer support and the chance that i may not even be given back everything i spent in full, my solution is that you give an option to players to either a) RETAIN the skin appearance AS they bought it, when they bought it or b) use the new skin that Anet plans on replacing it with. This way there would be NO need for customer support or gem refunds. People who want to keep what they paid for get to, and people who want the new flamekissed skin they are going to design can take that instead. This is something that could be mailed upon selecting the new version of the skin, or retained if not desired.

I really hope the devs read this. I am very particular about the way my toons look, and am quite nervous/apprehensive to them being able to please me with a new design that i did not previously approve. I hope my proposed solution does not go unnoticed. Thanks

Yea… for obvious reasons, that’s not going to happen.

And so, you’ll be the only ones getting the skin? Lol, that would be the worst solution ever.