Guild Wars 2

http://www.gamerzines.com/mmo/sacred-destroyed-pondering-guild.html

Better take all your screenshots of LA folks, cause it’s gonna get invaded by a dragon and destroyed ;|

YES!

I mean nooooooooo!

meniacal chuckle

Well kitten, I knew I should have started making that vista album from the get go, but my system is still in need of upgrading XD.

I had wanted to compile all the world vistas into an album, and then take new screenies as things changed. =( I’m ….uh…. a lot behind in that task…

It was speculated earlier this week or last week that LA could be destroyed, but many said that this would be very difficult to handle since it would interfere with the personal story and map completion

Now I don’t think that they would make the entire zone inaccessible. They can just make the landscape completely different, which they have always done during the holiday/themed events. For example, there could be charred remains of buildings, the roof of the BLTC can be gone, some of the ships could have fallen off and created new buildings to access, the mystic forge can be partially destroyed (yay?)

There needs to be a permanent reminder from the end of this Living Story, so that people can say, yep, I was there when the BLTC got destroyed. Right now, many of the changes are out of sight, out of mind. It would be nice to have LA completely destroyed or inconvenient to go around, while it steadily and noticeably gets repaired and improved through subsequent patches.

While it is interesting, games like Asheron’s Call did this ages ago and IMO much better. They had events like the Shadow Wars which blew up an entire town and the portals in it (sort of like a subway on a map similar to GW2 waypoints) leaving only a crater in its place. Servers even had influence as to how a story unfolded on their server so different story paths from other servers. They also had specialized items that were given out to the first players to beat the content on each server.

Oh wow, Scarlet’s been the protagonist the whole time? What a twist!

I’m still waiting for this Battle of/for Diviniy’s Reach that was mentioned so long ago. I mean….. a real battle. Let’s blow some stuff up here people!

Theres no way LA is being destroyed because that section of the map still has asuran gates to unopened expansion areas. Some of them even have portals with that red no entry sign on them. They wouldnt have designed that area just to destroy it before they use it.

Black Scoutsman.5830:

Theres no way LA is being destroyed because that section of the map still has asuran gates to unopened expansion areas. Some of them even have portals with that red no entry sign on them. They wouldnt have designed that area just to destroy it before they use it.

How’s this for a thought..what if the currently active Asura gates right now in LA get destroyed..and afterwards, the map was designed so that the unused one would be a temporary fix? I cannot remember if there 5 gates in that area that was being constructed, but remember, they don’t have to destroy the asura gates. They could just adjust the art so that they were damaged.

All your gates are belong to us.

This does not bode well, remember the outcry when the fountain was destroyed?

I still say that the Pale Tree is going to snap like a toothpick when Mordremoth kicks it over.

Crespus.7405:

I still say that the Pale Tree is going to snap like a toothpick when Mordremoth kicks it over.

Mmm…maybe Mordremoth will awaken in that zone and then end up travelling all the way to LA, leaving behind it some entrails (kind of like Kralk and the branded ground you see on the map), and then proceed to destroy LA and quickly gtfo.

And then season 2 starts, and we will have to fight it’s champion.

“Nothing is sacred, everything can be destroyed” Except for, you know, the stuff that can’t be destroyed because we are using it for Personal Story stuff that folks sometimes drop after their main has gone through it. Now if they burn away the PS I’ll be happy to see that stuff get integrated into the LS more if possible!

“There is a big point here, in terms of the battle between Scarlet’s free will versus this creature’s and you’ll see her transformation” Looks like my fears of her turning good and staying after Season One might be true. I really wanted her to die off like a good little weed. I don’t mind the other characters in the Living Story, but she turned boring after the tower.

“Basically this entire time we’ve been doing this massive story, with lots of undertones and hidden plots throughout this entire year, and over the next four releases we’re tying all that together” I really don’t follow this.
Most of the hidden plots were beaten in a small dungeon here or there. The only two things I’m wondering now are how is Scarlet tied to Dragons and when do we kill her off for stronger villains?

‘Can’ only implies, chances are the fountain will get wrecked again but LA will be fine overall.

I hope I’m wrong, heck I want to be wrong about Lion’s Arch actually being in danger.

Vol.7601:

Crespus.7405:

I still say that the Pale Tree is going to snap like a toothpick when Mordremoth kicks it over.

Mmm…maybe Mordremoth will awaken in that zone and then end up travelling all the way to LA, leaving behind it some entrails (kind of like Kralk and the branded ground you see on the map), and then proceed to destroy LA and quickly gtfo.

And then season 2 starts, and we will have to fight it’s champion.

I would be ecstatic if either of these happened. I’m just ready for our new lizard-friend.

no spoiler tags because I’m assuming you read that article….

“This is the first time players get to see a little bit of the history behind Scarlet and tells the back story of how she looked into the eternal alchemy, and saw something looking back at her,” Mike explained in a typically excited fashion.

“This malevolent being out there was so powerful that it started taking over her mind and giving her suggestions in terms of what she should be doing and things like that. There is a big point here, in terms of the battle between Scarlet’s free will versus this creature’s and you’ll see her transformation.”

Well lookie there! Remember the thread a few days ago that talked about some sort of cosmic space elder dragon?…Cosmic Space Elder Dragon Confirmed!!!!

also…. oh lord. people were right! Scarlet isn’t evil, she’s being controlled..

Maybe I have been too harsh on the potential for this development.
I mean if this is true, the amount of Cthulhu jokes I could do on Scarlet would be glorious.

Even if she’s being controlled, it’d be really nice if she became some champion to this new dragon and had to be destroyed, much like how we destroy the Shatterer or Tequatl. That would be a really nice final transformation for her to undergo.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Even if she’s being controlled, it’d be really nice if she became some champion to this new dragon and had to be destroyed, much like how we destroy the Shatterer or Tequatl. That would be a really nice final transformation for her to undergo.

Well let’s just hope that if she turns out to be the champion, we get to kill her in this season and not have to wait out next season…and have her end up being a recurring boss fight ;/

I don’t believe that anything that has impact on the personal story line of any race will be affected. I read in one interview way back during the Queen’s Jubilee that they entertained killing Queen Jenna, but she was involved in the personal story line so they couldn’t. (Don’t ask me where or who. I don’t remember.)

I can see non-story events and areas destroyed. Maybe the MAW or Fire Elemental or areas of cities that do not impact personal characters or the like.

Vol.7601:

Well let’s just hope that if she turns out to be the champion, we get to kill her in this season and not have to wait out next season…and have her end up being a recurring boss fight ;/

I could derive a lot of satisfaction from getting to kill her every day for a rare and some blues.

Tell me lies Zadorojny. Tell me sweet sweet lies.

jheryn.8390:

I don’t believe that anything that has impact on the personal story line of any race will be affected. I read in one interview way back during the Queen’s Jubilee that they entertained killing Queen Jenna, but she was involved in the personal story line so they couldn’t. (Don’t ask me where or who. I don’t remember.)

I can see non-story events and areas destroyed. Maybe the MAW or Fire Elemental or areas of cities that do not impact personal characters or the like.

Killing the queen would have interesting so we could see what sort of crazy thing Logan does to avenge her death (and I’m pretty sure it would have been insane, over the top, even deadpool aint got nothing on this kind of crazy)

So they’re going to go the hollywood way of supplementing lack of story with more mayhem and destruction.

Black Scoutsman.5830:

Theres no way LA is being destroyed because that section of the map still has asuran gates to unopened expansion areas. Some of them even have portals with that red no entry sign on them. They wouldnt have designed that area just to destroy it before they use it.

What if those portals don’t lead you to something new, but lead something new to you?

I’m so happy I have the Royal Terrance Pass right now. Dragons! Stay away from Divinity’s Reach. We (humans) have suffered enough!

Nabuko Darayon.9645:

I’m so happy I have the Royal Terrance Pass right now. Dragons! Stay away from Divinity’s Reach. We (humans) have suffered enough!

And then that’s a perfect time to put it back on sale :P

“Sick of the burnt corpses, charred buildings and homeless children in Lion’s Arch? Buy a Royal Terrace pass today to get away from it all!

Vol.7601:

Nabuko Darayon.9645:

I’m so happy I have the Royal Terrance Pass right now. Dragons! Stay away from Divinity’s Reach. We (humans) have suffered enough!

And then that’s a perfect time to put it back on sale :P

“Sick of the burnt corpses, charred buildings and homeless children in Lion’s Arch? Buy a Royal Terrace pass today to get away from it all!

Aan you still buy the Royal Terrace Pass? I dont’ think it’s up for sell any more.

Lord Kuru.3685:

So they’re going to go the hollywood way of supplementing lack of story with more mayhem and destruction.

I wish I could give you a medal right now, sir. Ripped the very thoughts from my mind.

Can someone post the gist of the article? I’m at work and the site is blocked

Gnat.9405:

Can someone post the gist of the article? I’m at work and the site is blocked

Interview with Mike Zadorojny.

(…)

“Basically this entire time we’ve been doing this massive story, with lots of undertones and hidden plots throughout this entire year, and over the next four releases we’re tying all that together,” he declared while talking us through the forthcoming updates.

“We’re doing it in an epic fashion with some major revelations and some things that’ll change the face of Tyria as we know it.”

(…)

“A lot of the focus of these final releases will be putting the player character at the centre of the story again. For the personal story it was all about the player’s journey and during the last year we’ve been telling the story of the world. Now we want to get back to why the player matters in the story,” Mike again foretold, with the promise that Tyria won’t be the same after this current season wraps up.

“Nothing is sacred, everything can be destroyed,” he revealed in a rather foreboding manner.

It would be nice if they put the destruction on such a large scale in the hands of the players. In other words, if the players fail to stop Scarlet, the results is something like L.A. getting destroyed.

Neural.1824:

It would be nice if they put the destruction on such a large scale in the hands of the players. In other words, if the players fail to stop Scarlet, the results is something like L.A. getting destroyed.

Meaning I could visit another server and it would look different? Interesting, not sure what kind of a nightmare that would be for the design in the future.

Rouven.7409:

Neural.1824:

It would be nice if they put the destruction on such a large scale in the hands of the players. In other words, if the players fail to stop Scarlet, the results is something like L.A. getting destroyed.

Meaning I could visit another server and it would look different? Interesting, not sure what kind of a nightmare that would be for the design in the future.

On a simpler level, it could be game-wide. That’s how it was with the Ellen/Evon event.

Rezz.8019:

So the jungle dragon is controlling her. How original.

“Ah, yes…the Reapers. We’ve dismissed those claims.”

Neural.1824:

On a simpler level, it could be game-wide. That’s how it was with the Ellen/Evon event.

Mhhh, so we would not see the progression, it would be tallied in the background and one day we get the result?

Your efforts where in vain as the rest of scarlet’s forces overrun (let’s say) Lions Arch.
cutscene

Victoriffic! Watch the surviving cowards flee.
cutscene

Or it could also be used to display the level of destruction, definitely some option there.

Rouven.7409:

Neural.1824:

On a simpler level, it could be game-wide. That’s how it was with the Ellen/Evon event.

Mhhh, so we would not see the progression, it would be tallied in the background and one day we get the result?

Your efforts where in vain as the rest of scarlet’s forces overrun (let’s say) Lions Arch.
cutscene

Victoriffic! Watch the surviving cowards flee.
cutscene

Or it could also be used to display the level of destruction, definitely some option there.

That would work, though I was thinking something more event related. Take Origins of Madness for example. Let’s say this was the last in this living story segment. The way it could play out would be that the Marrionette fight would be a lot more difficult, and if not one server ever completed the event by the final date, Lornar’s Pass would be turned into a wasteland, completely void of life except for twisted monstrosities left roaming around the land.
This would give the players a large stake in the course of the game.

Neural.1824:

That would work, though I was thinking something more event related. Take Origins of Madness for example. Let’s say this was the last in this living story segment. The way it could play out would be that the Marrionette fight would be a lot more difficult, and if not one server ever completed the event by the final date, Lornar’s Pass would be turned into a wasteland, completely void of life except for twisted monstrosities left roaming around the land.
This would give the players a large stake in the course of the game.

Well event related is nice, but I would find it superfluous if for example my server never managed it, but because another server did everything is still ok.

That’s kinda what I meant by not seeing the progress.

They can’t attack LA!

Once Zommorros’s hut is broken, thousands and millions of rare swords will pour out and cover the world!

Korossive.7085:

They can’t attack LA!

Once Zommorros’s hut is broken, thousands and millions of rare swords will pour out and cover the world!

My Gods…
Scarlet attacks LA, Zommorro’s mystical toilet is crushed, hundreds upon hundreds of precursors will scatter across maps and we get to play scavenger hunt for them!

Does she need help with the drill?!

Korossive.7085:

They can’t attack LA!

Once Zommorros’s hut is broken, thousands and millions of rare swords will pour out and cover the world!

I just figured out the story…. Zommorros is controlling Scarlet!!!!!

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I just figured out the story…. Zommorros is controlling Scarlet!!!!!

Ah, so that’s where all my swords really go …

Does this mean my Mystic Forge is going to be broken too? That means no more Zommoros.

Time to start investing in Precusors if they can’t be MF’d anymore.

Vol.7601:

It was speculated earlier this week or last week that LA could be destroyed, but many said that this would be very difficult to handle since it would interfere with the personal story and map completion

Now I don’t think that they would make the entire zone inaccessible. They can just make the landscape completely different, which they have always done during the holiday/themed events. For example, there could be charred remains of buildings, the roof of the BLTC can be gone, some of the ships could have fallen off and created new buildings to access, the mystic forge can be partially destroyed (yay?)

There needs to be a permanent reminder from the end of this Living Story, so that people can say, yep, I was there when the BLTC got destroyed. Right now, many of the changes are out of sight, out of mind. It would be nice to have LA completely destroyed or inconvenient to go around, while it steadily and noticeably gets repaired and improved through subsequent patches.

This is the reason they need to phase out the personal story. Because of the personal story, we can never change some things. Orr will forever be a desolate zombie infested wasteland, undead will continually attack certain points. This is especially notable in bloodtide coast. We’re here what, 2, 3 years after finishing the personal story? Skritt and vigil are standing around in the same spot that the wurm guys show up talking about how the undead just attacked some dredge and that they are on the front lines in the war.

If the living story would have been around from the very start, we could be cleaning up Orr right now or all kinds of other cool things. Lions Arch could be blown up completely because there would be no personal story clogging the gears.

Maybe there is a way to keep it, similar to GW1 where going to Shing Jae Island in factions with a prophecies character would pop up a message saying “stuff that happened here happened before you arrived.” If they did that, “personal story occurred x years ago,” not much would even need to be changed since the whole thing is instanced anyway.

Mike Zadorojny = General Zadorojny? “No No No. We should go to the armory. That’s where Zadorojny is likely to be.”

Except buzzwords are just that -buzzwords.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Does this mean my Mystic Forge is going to be broken too? That means no more Zommoros.

Time to start investing in Precusors if they can’t be MF’d anymore.

Exactly and precursor hunt is going to be released so no point on Zommoros any more.

ps actually there are mystic forge in place other than LA. I think you guys are over think too much.

Neural.1824:

Rouven.7409:

Neural.1824:

It would be nice if they put the destruction on such a large scale in the hands of the players. In other words, if the players fail to stop Scarlet, the results is something like L.A. getting destroyed.

Meaning I could visit another server and it would look different? Interesting, not sure what kind of a nightmare that would be for the design in the future.

On a simpler level, it could be game-wide. That’s how it was with the Ellen/Evon event.

Or they could rig it like the tower of nightmares destruction where everything is predetermined, but the players have an illusion that they are affecting the world.

Everything can be destroyed… except Scarlet.