Guild Wars 2

So I was slowly collecting toward this achievement and now see that it’s impossible now with the Account Binding of Miniatures?

That’s sort of lame.
I know its a collection and everything but I don’t WANT to FORCEFULLY bind my Miniatures. Plus, I have X number in my Miniatures Set tab, but only shows 1/20 on the achievement, do I have to account bind it?

I never asked for the inability to trade minis just for some forced collection. Or the fact I can’t see what I’m missing.

yea i don’t like the fact that i can’t see which one is part of which set either…

Whoever had this idea, is working with one thing in mind, greed and maximizing profits without any care for the players. Trust me, it doesn’t work like this, ArenaNet, you will rather end up losing players, and get the type of reputation some other larger F2P Korean-based company has.. I shouldn’t even need to name and shame, everyone knows what company I’m talking about. This is clearly about getting the player(s) to spend money in the Gem Store. You are no longer able to progress the old miniature collecting achievements by simply obtaining them, you must destroy them, take them out of the market rotation, create a larger demand for them. Never mind if you have no interest in collecting them of course, but rather in the achievements themselves as a different kind of collection. No, now you’re forced into buying them and destroying them, rendering it impossible to just buy and re-sell afterwards. Why? Clearly because ArenaNet is getting more and more greedy, and this is a tactic to forcefully send players into the Gem Store.

You see it through the entire update. BUY MORE GOLD is plastered on the Trading Post like some tacky mobile application. All it does, is take you to the currency converter tab, as if we’re too stupid to click that on our own. Oh and of course the Set I and II packs for the Miniatures are now magically back.

Collections for Black Lion weapons. Yeah, because it’s reasonable to collect 16 skins that you need to gamble on to obtain reasonably, from Black Lion Chests. Again, they want you into the Gem Store. Not all collections added are all bad, but some of these are absolutely making me loathe whoever it is that’s behind them. It’s screaming greed, and it’s making the game look so cheap and tacky, like a full-fledged Free-to-Play title. Only difference is I paid up front for this one.

PS: It’s so over the top stupid how I see my old Miniature Collector achievements, for both Set I and II, completed, but then exact duplicates of the achievements, with the same title that I’ve unlocked even(!), below them as incomplete. It makes so much sense! Disgusting, ArenaNet, absolutely disgusting. I’m not even sure there’s much respect left for the great company that brought Guild Wars and its expansions into the market. Perhaps a tiny bit, but you’re doing a great job in making me lose it.

Absconditus.6804:

Collections for Black Lion weapons. Yeah, because it’s reasonable to collect 16 skins that you need to gamble on to obtain reasonably, from Black Lion Chests. Again, they want you into the Gem Store. Not all collections added are all bad, but some of these are absolutely making me loathe whoever it is that’s behind them. It’s screaming greed, and it’s making the game look so cheap and tacky, like a full-fledged Free-to-Play title. Only difference is I paid up front for this one.

OR… you can buy them from the TP with Gold. No RNG necessary.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Absconditus.6804:

Collections for Black Lion weapons. Yeah, because it’s reasonable to collect 16 skins that you need to gamble on to obtain reasonably, from Black Lion Chests. Again, they want you into the Gem Store. Not all collections added are all bad, but some of these are absolutely making me loathe whoever it is that’s behind them. It’s screaming greed, and it’s making the game look so cheap and tacky, like a full-fledged Free-to-Play title. Only difference is I paid up front for this one.

OR… you can buy them from the TP with Gold. No RNG necessary.

Note how I wrote “reasonably”? Paying tens of thousands of Gold to collect these skins is not reasonable, is it? How are you going to amass it? Clicking on BUY MORE GOLD from the Trading Post? Then again, spending thousands of Euros on keys for your Black Lion Chests, in hopes of getting some claim tickets, is not really all that reasonable. In either case, it’s pretty unreasonable and these Collections should just not have been implemented.

Note that there are 16 skins per most of these sets. There’s also a good number over 10 sets in total, and although some doesn’t have all 16 weapon skins, most do. The reward for collecting all of the sets? Around 80 claim tickets.. guess what that gets you? Roughly one set that’s not the new kid on the block, which costs 5 tickets per skin. This collection category is so much “fun”! Oh wait, no, it’s frustrating, demotivating and annoying.

This is as obvious a cash grab as a Season Pass for DLC, pre-purchasable before a game is even released. It’s the kind of thing that baffles me that people will defend and buy into.

As I suspected, Anet had no contingency for partial achievements, and the fact that there is a mini cap undermines the UI improvements that were supposed to make it worth it. This is just another gold grab by Anet.

Does that Miniature Collection achievement still work if I add minis to my wardrobe?

I think that achievs should be available for people who have these minis physically (like other collections). Many people bought and sold back or borrowed minis from friends just for achievs which does not make them true mini collectors. this is reason why old achievs should be deleted.

Leablo.2651:

As I suspected, Anet had no contingency for partial achievements, and the fact that there is a mini cap undermines the UI improvements that were supposed to make it worth it. This is just another gold grab by Anet.

I have to say that you all are very much over reacting.

Like having few more AP would break the game.
Guess what – it doesn’t.

I take that originally minis were supposed to be collected, but they most of players just sold them. I will take it wasn’t the real plan. So it didn’t worked as intended. So after they fixed many other things they addressed this issue.

If you really were mini collector you would had them all instead many other things. They were really cheap for most time (not after new series was introduced but like 1-2 months later) and they still will be cheap soon. Next time they introduce new forgable mini to get in game market will be flooded with all kinds of minis again, so just wait… Really… stop being so jumpy.

As tof BLWeapons.
Well guess what, once one is introduced it costs 1 ticket and by finishing last collaction you get like 7 tickets? So I guess you need gold for only half of the set.
I would like to say “really good work good work ANet” on that, since it just easies the way to make new collection for those who already collected them. There is no real item that goes next to that like back piece or any other thing that would give an advantage.
Also key farming is pretty much still going, so people will still sell skins for gold and that’s great!

Don’t act high and might just because it will be hard to get additional 3 points of achievements per set.
Thats nothing!!! Next time you do daily make sure to do 8 not 5 and it all will be great for you…

TomaszL.5340:

I think that achievs should be available for people who have these minis physically (like other collections). Many people bought and sold back or borrowed minis from friends just for achievs which does not make them true mini collectors.

Great reasoning!
I also think that it makes perfect sense now.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Absconditus.6804:

Collections for Black Lion weapons. Yeah, because it’s reasonable to collect 16 skins that you need to gamble on to obtain reasonably, from Black Lion Chests. Again, they want you into the Gem Store. Not all collections added are all bad, but some of these are absolutely making me loathe whoever it is that’s behind them. It’s screaming greed, and it’s making the game look so cheap and tacky, like a full-fledged Free-to-Play title. Only difference is I paid up front for this one.

OR… you can buy them from the TP with Gold. No RNG necessary.

The only issue with BL collection that I truly have with it is that it’s literally for every set of weapons ever offered, provided you have at least one to enable the set, but Anet has decided that they’ll discontinue some sets such as Scelrite and I know they discontinued one other. IMO with this change (in terms of creating collection achievements for each one) they should set a maximum ticket cap per skins and keep every weapon they’ve created as an option to be traded in

(a minor gripe for the BL collections is that the game can award you with an items credit if you don’t or have never had one- forcing the tracks appearance)

The mini binding I can’t really see too much of an issue, but what annoys me is that they didn’t bother to make new achievements with the change- it’s literally the same 3, re done and god forbid you didn’t get the “old” ones before the change and miss out on the basically extra AP

From the looks of things they just reset the mini pet achievements so you have to start all over again.

They said there would be “new” achievements but they all look exactly the same as before.

The achievements really need to be moved to the new ‘Collections’ category in the achievement window. Having them still in the ‘General->Community’ category makes no sense since minis are now referred to as collections.

I have 2 separate achievements for series 1 for some reason. The new achievement is showing 1 less mini than the old one. (Risen Priest of Balthazar might not be counted when adding it to your collection)

See my post here. Screenshot proving it. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Miniature-Set-1-Achievement-Bug/first#post4385523

It’s not hard to see what their aim here is. It’s to make players destroy Miniatures. Now please.. think about what cause that has. Right, a drainage of Miniatures available in the market, with prices skyrocketing. This leads to players spending real money, in the Gem Store to get packs of Miniatures, be it to try save money from buying, or to sell and make a profit. This is obviously their tactic here. This is what they hope will come from this.

The same applies to the Black Lion Weapon Skins. They want to make more people spend money on Black Lion Keys. Especially those of us who have grabbed a single weapon now and again, but had no real interest in getting the whole freaking set of them. I really like the collectible categories that involves in-game stuff, but these collectible achievements that is based around real world transactions are just making me annoyed however. Especially seeing the same exact Miniature ones added as a duplicate, with the same exact title tied to them. Only this time it’s to destroy the items, to take them out of the market cycle. We can’t have people buying Miniatures and selling them afterwards of course? The people who may be “collecting” achievements (not AP, but the actual achievements) but have absolutely no interest in their greedy Miniature practice.

ArenaNet has proven a few times they can’t be trusted to make it possible to maintain a complete collection anyways. First Mini Mr. Sparkles, which got me to stop collecting, which caused several collectors to get frustrated and had an outrage over it, then they do it again.. with the Mini Llama.. I’m so glad I stopped collecting and supporting them with real money, because as I said during their Mini Mr. Sparkles frustration, what collector would want to have a impossible to (reasonably) complete collection? (Without any communication, some months later, after having skipped 2-3 packs, they did of course make Sparkles available if you purchased at least 50€ worth of Gems during that month, but yeah.. that was a bit late, huh? And now they’ve done the same thing again with that Mini Llama.. so yeah, my lowered respect and trust in them is warranted, to me, these days.)

The obvious cash-grab implementations of this patch are as annoying as that ridiculous GET MORE GOLD message plastered in our faces on the Trading Post now. Another reason to look at this entire update as some sort of grand plan of making players spend more money, without any care for how it makes them appear. Like some grind-fest F2P title, e.g., from that company everyone loves to hate for their greed, or any tacky cheap mobile app with advertisements all over it.

Seriously, someone at ArenaNet needs to talk back to the people pushing these things through from the eastern market. This is the western market, things like this does not get accepted here. We rather start talking about how greedy you are, quit your game and advice players to stay away from it. A game that actually depends a bit on reputation. It’s not a Free to Play title. It’s a Buy to Play title. There’s no testing to see for yourself in this, and with a horrible reputation, the sales of the game will decline, that much is given.