Guild Wars 2

Mugiwara Luffy.1087:

This again?

GW2 doesn’t need mounts. Every MMO I played with mounts they are a clunky mess that clogs up the screen with unnecessary particle effects.

A big no for me.

Hmm. Which of these screenshots depicts the most unnecessary particle effects?

Question – do the current mounts and toys get put away when you exit a map? So if you equip it in Gendarran Fields and then walk into Kessex does it un equip your Magic Carpet?

Because if they do there would be one my biggest issues with mounts in this game. Apart from the fact that I dislike the idea in general would it not be the most annoying thing in the world to just constantly re-equip the darned thing every time you changed maps?

nothing you wrote hasn´t been discussed a million times before in these threads. No need to give this thread a special treatment.

Tachenon.5270:

Mugiwara Luffy.1087:

This again?

GW2 doesn’t need mounts. Every MMO I played with mounts they are a clunky mess that clogs up the screen with unnecessary particle effects.

A big no for me.

Hmm. Which of these screenshots depicts the most unnecessary particle effects?

So you’re trying to make a point ? You use mount to ride around and you will see other mounts riding around. You have shown me a picture of zoomed in part while killing some kind of champion. when you enter combat you dismount from a mount. And your point doesn’t even make sense because first 2 pictures you put there are alone players on mount compared to 10 people spaming spells.

Algreg.3629:

nothing you wrote hasn´t been discussed a million times before in these threads. No need to give this thread a special treatment.

Problem is in people not in thread.

Blackbeard.4356:

Tachenon.5270:

Mugiwara Luffy.1087:

This again?

GW2 doesn’t need mounts. Every MMO I played with mounts they are a clunky mess that clogs up the screen with unnecessary particle effects.

A big no for me.

Hmm. Which of these screenshots depicts the most unnecessary particle effects?

So you’re trying to make a point ? You use mount to ride around and you will see other mounts riding around. You have shown me a picture of zoomed in part while killing some kind of champion. when you enter combat you dismount from a mount. And your point doesn’t even make sense because first 2 pictures you put there are alone players on mount compared to 10 people spaming spells.

Mounts don’t necessarily cause unnecessary particle effects and unnecessary particle effects can and often do exist when and where there are no mounts at all. Is it not so?

Where’s the guy who always posts the giff of the dead horse being beat by a jockey?

We’ve been told over and over that we will not be getting mounts that increase our speed, that’s why the other threads have been closed, it’s not needed because the game world is too small, waypoints are more effective and the way the game performs will be reduced by the extra speed. I’d just give up already.

Mugiwara Luffy.1087:

Every MMO I played with mounts they are a clunky mess that clogs up the screen with unnecessary particle effects.

You mean like world bosses in GW2?
XD
Really though, before ever considering mounts, they should work on properly balancing map shard populations. If we can’t even have minis due to culling, mounts ain’t gonna make it.

I was not aware that the ‘hardcore’ players’ goal was to get much girls (with aforementioned mounts, of course).

Thus, I will have to veto the whole idea of mounts. =(

On topic: No. This is not WoW.

Off topic: I love these “mount” threads for one thing: the moment when you look at the URL and see /forum/game/gw2/Mounts-15/.

Dramen Maidria.1034:

Where’s the guy who always posts the giff of the dead horse being beat by a jockey?

He was probably away – 29 posts and still no gif:

Lishtenbird.2814:

On topic: No. This is not WoW.

Best argumentation ever:
X is not Y, so Z shouldn’t be happening. Yeah….

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

TLDR: We’d like the game to be more like insert random generic MMO here. So please add [dueling, open world pvp, mounts, race changes, class changes, marriage, gold to real world cash conversion, insert additional non-GW centric thing here ]

/sarcasm off

munches popcorn

Carry on

But.. Gold→Cash would be an excellent gold sink! =P
And legitimate private housing.
And, and, and, from 9000 other threads.
/derail
/yawn

Maybe we could just have a Ride-a-Warrior skill and use that to piggyback one.

HHR LostProphet.4801:

Lishtenbird.2814:

On topic: No. This is not WoW.

Best argumentation ever:
X is not Y, so Z shouldn’t be happening. Yeah….

As you can conclude from the number in the URL, why exactly it should not be like WoW has been discussed countless, countless times.

Travel speed isn’t a problem in this game. If mounts are added I don’t think they should have a movement speed increase. If the goal is simply to look epic, then it should be a transformation tonic.

Ohh! I never noticed that! What does it mean? The 15th this month? This year? What? Surely there have been more than 15 mount threads.

Or is it the 15th just titled ‘Mounts’? That must be it.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Or is it the 15th just titled ‘Mounts’? That must be it.

Yes, it means that this is the 15th thread titled exactly “Mounts”.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I was not aware that the ‘hardcore’ players’ goal was to get much girls (with aforementioned mounts, of course).

Thus, I will have to veto the whole idea of mounts. =(

Well really gonna lower the tone but… I think he’s using a different definition of hardcore and mount ;-)

AdaephonDelat.3890:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I was not aware that the ‘hardcore’ players’ goal was to get much girls (with aforementioned mounts, of course).

Thus, I will have to veto the whole idea of mounts. =(

Well really gonna lower the tone but… I think he’s using a different definition of hardcore and mount ;-)

Nooo, why did you make me Google that? T-T
That’s going to stay in my search history. Curse you. T__T

Nah, not really. Boon you, for I wish you well~

Tachenon.5270:

Mugiwara Luffy.1087:

This again?

GW2 doesn’t need mounts. Every MMO I played with mounts they are a clunky mess that clogs up the screen with unnecessary particle effects.

A big no for me.

Hmm. Which of these screenshots depicts the most unnecessary particle effects?

I did say “Every MMO I played”. Also, to everyone showing me screenshots of GW2’s particles, I know. I hate the amount of particles, it is really absurd. It’s the reason I don’t do world bosses since the graphics give me headaches.

I just think there are more then enough particles in the game, and knowing Anet, when they release mounts they will be a heaven for particle effect lovers.

No, I don’t want to see your black and red dyed Charr Warrior with your Twilight riding in some vehicle with a lot of smoke and fire into battle. Too much particles for me.

Against.

1) performance issues.
2) graphic polution (we already have enough of that with all the particle effects). Dont want to stare at 100 doliak behinds and have griffons blazing all around when i do a Boss dynamics.
3) it promotes imature behavior (just like the no to openworld pvp in pve), remind you that guildwars has a decent mature community.
4) We have waypoints, dont want to have to go 3 hours with a mount to all the places before i can do the content i want to (something to do with a thing called life).
5) I am glad that there is one mmo who does it different then all the so called Wow clones.

Still don’t want.

Blackbeard.4356:

I’m an person who wants mounts in the game and I have a reasons why I want them.

3) You go and explore faster with your epic mount and it will be more enjoyable then running and porting around

6) You can made diffrerent mounts speed for lower or bigger levels (60%) for lower and (100%) for higher levels

7) Mount can be shown as an effort you put in the game, something like legendarys. If you’re a hardcore player you will probably have some epic mount, much color, much epicness, much speed, much girls and so on

I paraphrased you a little to target certain points in particular. I think the biggest issue I have with the mount topic is that there are other aspects of the game that I would prefer them to target for development. Now different teams have different aspects they would need to address and I think mounts would impact a lot of teams’ time and budget therefore taking them away from other development.

That said as soon as you granted the above points you moved mounts into the category of you need everyone to have them which changes from a “I would like” to a “You will need” item. You may be looking at it from just a PvE side but this opens the door to WvW and PvP and that greatly increases the scale of this with balancing, game client mechanics on forcing dismount and so fourth. If are you suggesting this just for PvE I would further oppose this since they should be developing aspects of the game for all play modes and less that only affect one play mode, in my opinion.

Anyway, quick counter thoughts and I will leave it from there. Good hunting!

Ideal for Silverwastes. That place is unbearable without speed skills. I doubt the game has the scale though. It wouldn’t ‘fit in’, like that other MMO which it does like a glove.

yorick.1305:

Ideal for Silverwastes. That place is unbearable without speed skills. I doubt the game has the scale though. It wouldn’t ‘fit in’, like that other MMO which it does like a glove.

What?!? From the waypoint to the other side of the map takes like a minute.

Waypoint to other side of the map with mounts 10 secs, crap still to SLOW!

Normally I let these threads alone to die their inevitable death, and they do make a good running joke (yay for that gif).

But a recent fall damage thread included a link to a video that illustrates why flying mounts in particular won’t work here, same reason they didn’t in pre-Cataclysm Azeroth. The world is a Hollywood facade, and asking for flying mounts is, along with all the other issues, asking ANet to rebuild Tyria from the ground up.

Take a look at the disconnected floating arch bits here. That’s what everything looks like that players aren’t meant to get to.

yorick.1305:

Ideal for Silverwastes. That place is unbearable without speed skills.

Solution: add more waypoints. Not only would it solve the problem better than mounts, but also at far lower development time price.

Again – No mounts.

Many people i see always bring the same old argument. This is not ‘wow.’….this is Gw2………But in case you haven’t noticed, Wow is still doing great, Aion which is another game published by NCsoft seems to be doing better than GW2…….Clearly Gw2 needs some significant changes to match up to them player base wise……….Mounts, Flight, Raids, Some actual progression in gear instead of just skins etc maybe some things that might rejuvenate the game……lets not just say this is not wow and ignore them. This game is already leaning far too much towards ‘casual’ players. I think we should all accept this once and for all, most MMO players like Wow type features. Am not saying that GW2 should become a wow clone. But there is no harm in comparing and bringing in some traditional MMO features in to this game.

And before somebody tells me to go play those games , i dont want to pay subscription fees and i like the graphics here. But I want gw2 to be better than those games.

^ It indeed needs a massive amount of new conten/ changes, but mounts are just useless considering the amount of WPs we got access to

sigh

This subject again. No mounts. They aren’t needed. For those that are already complaining that GW2 seems to be “dumbing” things down for players I’d think you’d fight tooth and nail against this. There are speed buffs in the game, players need to learn to use them.

yorick.1305:

Ideal for Silverwastes. That place is unbearable without speed skills. I doubt the game has the scale though. It wouldn’t ‘fit in’, like that other MMO which it does like a glove.

Unbearable? Hardly. I often play a Guardian which happens to have the worst temp speed buffs in the game. Still I have no problem getting from camp to blue in under 2 min (if I just skip the garbage mobs maybe 1 min) so no, no need for any more waypoints till they expand the map more. Now if only people would come help me defend the place. :P

Peace.

A few remarks.

I ) Guildwars has been equipped with nice waypoints and portals; they removed the need for long distance travel
II ) When you’d get a speed buff be sure this can’t succeed 33%,
Any boost whatsoever will make a mount automatically unsuitable for WvW and PvP,
If the boost would be 1% higher (34%) and if any mount would EVER become available in the trading post we’ll get a nice return to “A-Net said no Pay 2 Win” and you’ll probably get a refund, or a nice nerfed thingy for which you will get a refund if you do not need it anymore.
III ) IMHO it goes against the “feel” of the game. We had mounts in gw1, we could learn to travel in the big wurms in the crystal desert. It was a game mechanic. no payment, only in 3 or 4 map pieces in the crystal desert.
IV ) My opinion is that most people who want a mount should buy a moped or motor IRL, but thats out of context…
V) Why after 20+ threads is it still not known mounts are not for Gw2. The best thing I would ever hope for would be a Dolyak companion, they move walking speed, so -50% speed… I would love one! I could be the next Sandford, but When I would look around there would be 50 of those things in range cluttering everything… SO: OK, maybe not…
VI) Why would a mount be cool? The sandwurms in the crystal desert were cool, but I doubt they’re implementable ingame… I run an i7 with 2 GTX 780s I doubt I’ll have many problems, but If 40-50% of players would be adversably affected, SO NO: no mounts
VII ) Because I want time spend on DUNGEONS, EXPANSION AREAS, WEAPON SETS, RACES, PROFFESSIONS, not another toy…
VIII) Because I’m against any speedbuffs provided by items, the kites were a bad thing… Please NO MORE!
IX) No, Just because I do not want them as a gamemechanic for all areas… 1 exception: air movement… but we have pact ships, helo’s, zephyrite airships, dragons…
X) Why am I still replying to these threads, The posters never seem to read the other dozens of posts?

I hope it’s clear now:
NO MOUNTS AND NO MORE MOUNT THREADS PLEASE

Ok so now we have another mounts thread…It’s about time for another open world PvP/Dueling thread…

@OP

I understand the forum search function doesn’t work, but a simple google search will show that there have been countless threads on mounts, with nearly every one of them filled with reasons why having them in this game would not be a good idea. Both from a lore and story stand point, and a mechanics stand point. While they may work great in other games, with little to no issues, the major problem is the whole game design practically eliminates any need for mounts. In order to have mounts, flying or other wise, (cosmetic gem store items aside) they would need to completely redo much of the game as a whole. WPs would be come obsolete, and a valuable gold sink would be lost. In short, mounts just wouldn’t work for this game. And thats ok. Just because other games have them, and it works for them, doesn’t mean that it would work for this one.

So, go google all the other mounts threads, and save yourself a ton of time and enegery reading the responses on the other threads. All the responses here are going to be exactly the same. The majority of forum goers don’t wnat mounts. Period.

Big fan of mounts, reduce the amount of WP add mounts. GW2 would have kept more players and brought new ones into the game if we had mounts.

Wetpaw.3487:

Big fan of mounts, reduce the amount of WP add mounts. GW2 would have kept more players and brought new ones into the game if we had mounts.

Absolute rubbish.

uknortherner.2670:

Wetpaw.3487:

Big fan of mounts, reduce the amount of WP add mounts. GW2 would have kept more players and brought new ones into the game if we had mounts.

Absolute rubbish.

Hardly, I will let the genre for the last 10years speak for itself.

I would love if mounts were implemented.

Archeage implemented mounts right (the only thing I like about their game besides the intense crafting). They have animation that supports you mounting your ride from all sides and you can perform combat on your mount. Anet’s last story zone with its woefully inadequate single waypoint screams for mounts.

Ankushp.7245:

Many people i see always bring the same old argument. This is not ‘wow.’….this is Gw2………But in case you haven’t noticed, Wow is still doing great, Aion which is another game published by NCsoft seems to be doing better than GW2…….Clearly Gw2 needs some significant changes to match up to them player base wise……….Mounts, Flight, Raids, Some actual progression in gear instead of just skins etc maybe some things that might rejuvenate the game……lets not just say this is not wow and ignore them. This game is already leaning far too much towards ‘casual’ players. I think we should all accept this once and for all, most MMO players like Wow type features. Am not saying that GW2 should become a wow clone. But there is no harm in comparing and bringing in some traditional MMO features in to this game.

And before somebody tells me to go play those games , i dont want to pay subscription fees and i like the graphics here. But I want gw2 to be better than those games.

Did Aion add mounts since the last time I played?

As far as flight goes, the game is centered around it (Aion). The world was created from the ground up to allow for it. You can’t just add that stuff in later without having to overhaul a lot of the areas that look accessible but in reality aren’t.

Wetpaw.3487:

uknortherner.2670:

Wetpaw.3487:

Big fan of mounts, reduce the amount of WP add mounts. GW2 would have kept more players and brought new ones into the game if we had mounts.

Absolute rubbish.

Hardly, I will let the genre for the last 10years speak for itself.

You are more than welcome to play those other games then. Nothing is stopping you from playing more than one game. If you need your daily fix of mounts, go get them, but gw2 doesn’t need them. There are dozens of other things this game needs more.

We already have mounts. It’s called the magic carpet and witches broomstick.

Now please let this unnecessary idea die.

Wetpaw.3487:

uknortherner.2670:

Wetpaw.3487:

Big fan of mounts, reduce the amount of WP add mounts. GW2 would have kept more players and brought new ones into the game if we had mounts.

Absolute rubbish.

Hardly, I will let the genre for the last 10years speak for itself.

But mounts were created for other mmorpg’s, while GW2 was not meant for having mounts.

Were you referring to WoW? because that isn’t a genre.

Anyway, my opinion on mounts is that they were not made for this game and overall just look too ridiculous, also the fact how mounts just spawn out of no where and make things just feel awkward.

Oh. Man. I can just see it if mounts were in the game: “Ooo…I want that pink, fluffy spider mount, he looks so cuuutte!” Gah. Please. Spare me that.

misterman.1530:

Oh. Man. I can just see it if mounts were in the game: “Ooo…I want that pink, fluffy spider mount, he looks so cuuutte!” Gah. Please. Spare me that.

It’d probably be something godsawful like a quaggan riding a skateboard while the player rides on its shoulders. Then again, I could see having a truck full of junk with skritt riding on it, a la, Beverly Hillbillies. :P

Wetpaw.3487:

uknortherner.2670:

Wetpaw.3487:

Big fan of mounts, reduce the amount of WP add mounts. GW2 would have kept more players and brought new ones into the game if we had mounts.

Absolute rubbish.

Hardly, I will let the genre for the last 10years speak for itself.

Judging by the reaction to any mention of mounts on this forum, I would have to agree with uknortherner. There is no evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, that would point to a greater player retention, and new player growth. However, I will conceded that this is your opinion, and leave it at that.

As far as the genre and the last ten years, those games, in this same genre, had a system where mounts would work, and be an integral part of traversing the world. This game has an alternet system in place that makes having mounts irrelevant. This doesn’t make this game better, or the other games with mounts better, it’s just different. Waypoints, and not mounts, were the designers vision for this game, and they did an excellent job of brining that vision to life. Mounts weren’t exluded on accident. This was on purpose.

Rauderi.8706:

misterman.1530:

Oh. Man. I can just see it if mounts were in the game: “Ooo…I want that pink, fluffy spider mount, he looks so cuuutte!” Gah. Please. Spare me that.

It’d probably be something godsawful like a quaggan riding a skateboard while the player rides on its shoulders. Then again, I could see having a truck full of junk with skritt riding on it, a la, Beverly Hillbillies. :P

Ok. The Skritt thing would be awesome…I must admit One skritt playing a banjo-like instrument made out of junk. Ok. THAT I would be okay with

misterman.1530:

“Ooo…I want that pink, fluffy spider mount, he looks so cuuutte!”

I didn’t see the need in having a mount until you suggested this. My asura in her pink gear would like to request this as the next gem store mount please.

misterman.1530:

Oh. Man. I can just see it if mounts were in the game: “Ooo…I want that pink, fluffy spider mount, he looks so cuuutte!” Gah. Please. Spare me that.

Mounts ARE in the game. I’m guilty of exactly this :/ Flying Broom+Wicked Witch themed character=entire MINUTES of joy.

Adventuring on my trusty Dolyak or Moa would be pretty fun. The mounts in the cash shop are a good start, I look forward to seeing what Anet does with that in the future.