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Posted by: ninjazombie.2937

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hello

what should i be Selling , Savagaing and using in the mystic forge ?

thank you

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Posted by: Zev.3407

Zev.3407

hello

what should i be Selling , Savagaing and using in the mystic forge ?

thank you

items

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Posted by: ninjazombie.2937

ninjazombie.2937

i was looking for a more detailed answer ;p

as in what to sell for money, what to salvage for material and what to use in the mystic forge etc

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

I pretty much salvage everything white/blue/green while yellows and up I first check to see if they are worth more salvaged or sold. That usually means whether it has a nice upgrade or inscription that would drop on salvage.

I only use the MF now for material promotion when it’s financially advantageous to do so with reasonable certainty. That means at least a gold per spirit shard, preferably more than 2 gold per over selling the raw mats before promotion.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

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I usually salvage all my blues and mystic forge all my greens in hopes of getting rares or cloth armor. I got tired of salvaging and getting one mithril or some leather. I don’t worry that much about the essences of luck as I don’t think magic find works all that great. It’s mostly on kill only and so many things you get now are from containers.

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Posted by: Arioso.8519

Arioso.8519

Generally, for weapons/armor

The rule that trumps all: If it’s an exotic and you don’t know what it’s worth, check the value on the TP before doing anything else with it. You wouldn’t want to flush a 100g+ exotic weapon without realizing how much it’s worth, would you?

Salvaging:

Cloth is the most valuable common salvageable material in general, so you usually want to salvage any light armor you get.

On the opposite end, leather in general is so cheap that salvaging most leather tends to not be worth it.

Anything that ISN’T a high level piece of gear (i.3: Anything under level 65 or so) is generally worth salvaging, no matter what tier/rarity it is, because the mid-tier crafting mats tend to be in shorter supply and higher demand. Stuff like Iron, Platinum, Hard Wood, Linen, etc.

Naturally if the thing has an upgrade like a sigil or gem you want to salvage out, feel free to go for it. If you have a BL salvage kit, save it for extracting high value runes or sigils from gear. (At least 1g in value)

Rare and Exotic armor you don’t want to use is generally worth salvaging for ectoplasm and dark matter. (Armor tends to be worth less than weapons for selling, unless it’s a high demand stat combo like Zerk)

Mystic Forge [AKA Mystic Toilet]
Putting anything in here you mind throwing away is foolishness. That said:

Level 75+ Green gear is sometimes worth flushing to get rare tier gear which is worth significantly more than greens, so the 20%-ish change at an upgrade tends to be worth the lost gear.

Rare/Yellow WEAPONS can be gambled for a chance at a precursor or exotic weapon. Remember, it is a gamble, and for sure profit you may be better off selling them for 20-50 silver each on the TP. Armor isn’t worth it, IMO since there’s no precursor chance there.

Low value exotic weapons (less than 2 G) can be gambled in the forge if you’re willing to take the loss. It does guarantee you get an exotic weapon back, and you might occasionally get a rare skin. It’s not too bad a method for filling out your unlocks of common exotic skins either. (You unlock the skin of anything you flush) also, it’s about 4x-5x the odds of giving a precursor over rares. (on paper at least) though it’s a much more expensive gamble so you wouldn’t want to buy exotics just to flush them like some people do with rares. However, exotic dungeon weapons are totally worth buying just to flush if you have no other use for your dungeon tokens.

The mysic forge is the only way to turn soulbound, account-bound, karma-purchased or dungeon-token purchased gear into gold. So you can buy dungeon weapons (Or win them in PvP reward tracks) and forge them for a chance at a precursor, but even if you get something common it’s still one more sellable weapon than you had before. So that’s the way to forge without gambling gold.

Also, feel free to Wiki the set forge recipes. Lodestones tend to be worth making. Rare mats are sometimes worth promoting. Special weapon skins and such can be worth if you like them.

Selling:
Level 75-80 White and Blue gear is generally NPC vendor trash unless you want to salvage them for their specific mats. (again, cloth.)

Green sigils/runes are NPC vendor trash. Nobody wants them. Yellow ones can be used, forged or sold on the TP for 3+ silver each, at your discretion. Same goes for exotic runes/sigils though the value of those can very wildly from just a few silver to several gold, so check the TP on any you don’t know the value of before you try forging any.

Rares and exotics can be listed on the TP if you want sure profit over gambling via salvage or Forge. If the gear is pure offense gear, especially Exotic Berserker gear, it’s in higher demand and tells for much higher on the TP than similar items with less desirable stats.

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Posted by: Critical Lag.9075

Critical Lag.9075

I usually do it like this:
1. Salvage all white/blue/green with copper fed salvagomatic (or basic kits)

2. If yellow item is below like 35-37s I salvage them for ectos otherwhise selling. If I feel like “gambling” a bit or too lazy to put so many items on tp I just salvage all with yellow salvage kit. except for daggers/GS/staff/sword as they usually are 45-60s

3. Sell all exotics on TP unless the rune inside it is worth like 1.5g more than item itself , if so salvage it with BLSK for 100% chance to get rune back. if you dont have BLSK just sell the item.

I dont use MF for gambling, like putting rares and hope for precursors as you have to be extremly lucky for it to pay off.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

Basic kit on rares? Are you crazy? At the very least you are throwing away 3 out of every 5 sigils or runes which you can get after taxes and fees a bit over 3 silver each on average (placing bids) because you want to save 60 copper. Also isn’t the ecto recovery rate different for lower end kits? I know BL kits are better than master/mystic/silver-fed I’ve always assumed lower tier kits get worse. We are talking 30 silver for those.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

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Basic kit on rares? Are you crazy? At the very least you are throwing away 3 out of every 5 sigils or runes which you can get after taxes and fees a bit over 3 silver each on average (placing bids) because you want to save 60 copper. Also isn’t the ecto recovery rate different for lower end kits? I know BL kits are better than master/mystic/silver-fed I’ve always assumed lower tier kits get worse. We are talking 30 silver for those.

I’ve actually found that just the presence of a major sigil or rune is good enough to merit using a master kit instead of anything below it. nevermind ecto, just that value is enough. math:
journeyman: 60% of 4s = 2s40c
master: 80% of 4s = 3s20c (so master gives 80c more but only costs 61c
I’ve used masters on non-rares because of this.
crude is usually best for all minor runes and sigil-bearing items, but the difference between that and CFSoM/Basic is so small that the added convenience of those makes them a better choice (it’s like 0.3c different)

what I do:
salvage all white / blue / green items and salvageable materials with CFSoM or Crude or Basic
salvage all rares with SFSoM or Master (except greatsword – sell rare greatswords on the TP. maybe also staff and dagger? if it sells for more than the price of an ecto, it’s better to sell than salvage)
check TP price of exotics, if >12g, sell, if 7-12g, check if it would give high value things then likely salvage with BLSK, if <7g, check if it would give decent value things then likely salvage with SFSoM or Master
if an exotic can’t be salvaged or TP’ed, save it and throw it in the forge with others once you save enough (if it can’t be forged, maybe give it to a alt to use? or sell to merchant for 3s? maybe delete? iuno, you pick!)
throw any major runes and sigils into the forge, sell any superiors that come out

see my sig for other suggestions

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Posted by: Critical Lag.9075

Critical Lag.9075

Basic kit on rares?

Whoops, I meant to write greens. They way it is now , point 1 contradicts with point 2 , my bad. And yeah, i salvage rares with mystic/rare/silver fed salvagomatic.

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Posted by: BigZThyDoom.8750

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I play a LOT of SW, so my inventory is almost always full of blues/greens, with the occasional rare or exo.
Here’s what I do:
(If I’m lazy)- salvage all blue/green light armor, vendor all the other blues and greens, and sell the rares/exos on the TP.
(If I’m not lazy)- salvage all blue/green light armor, sell what other blues/greens I can on TP, then vendor the rest. Exos I always sell on TP, unless I want the skin. Then I’ll check the pricing on the rares. If they’re worth 37s+, I list them. If they’re the more common weps/armor that are only worth 33s ish, I salvage them for ectos.
Copper fed salvagomatic for light armor and mystic/rare for rares. If I have one, I use Black Lion Salvage for exos.

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Posted by: Sligh.2789

Sligh.2789

blue / green I salvage for mats. Gold level 80’s are reserved for MF in matched sets of 4. Level 79 and lower rares are TP’d if the price is greater than an ecto price +16.47% ( average 1.16 ecto per rare and accounting for exchange fees)
Exotic are salvaged if a costly rune is involved, TP’d unless I am in need of dark matter.
Named exotics are reserved and TP’d in sets of 4 as they seem to give pre return at a higher rate. I have 2 pre drops and 4 from MF in game since launch. That is usually 10-15 MF rolls a week.
Just my 2 cents…