Guild Wars 2

Hey,

I have been playing mostly Necromancer during the last 3 years on/off which is my only level 80 character. (I don’t even have ascended armor/weapon yet). This is not a thread to beg for nonsense buffs or making the class generally better overall, as I could always choose the class which seems “op” generally in my opinion. I usually play WvW, and I have noticed that Necromancer doesn’t have nearly as much defense as other classes, especially without the new expansion which I don’t know about.

It’s not possible to be immune, invulnerable, block attacks, or even have stability except if you want to transform into almost useless Lich form or sacrifice a trait for short stability. Evading is the only reasonable way to defend yourself as Necro. To me it’s really hard to tell when someone is being invulnerable or immune, blocking usually has a clear visual effect though. Also, Necromancers have zero mobility so escaping isn’t an option either. While playing WvW and I am left alone, I have to use crowd control as much as possible and run around, and hope that someone comes to save me.

So, the point is that I think it would be reasonable that also Necromancers have an option to have ANYKIND of defense when they are surrounded by a bunch of players to increase the chances of getting away. For example having an extra endurance block for evading would be enough.

Otherwise this class is special enough with all the AoE, and thats why it has to be less defensive than other classes, but I think having zero defensive gameplay is the reason why people don’t usually want to play Necro in WvW for example. Most of the people go for classes which are better for 1vs1 situations.

Mobility and damage avoidance (through blocking and invulnerability) is intended to be the necromancer’s primary weakness. It is a highly offensive class by design. What you’re asking for would unbalance necromancers.

If you want to play defensively, you’re going to have to focus on your ability to face-tank. Bring skills and traits to the fight that give you good up-time on protection boon or damage reduction from other sources such as shambling horrors (they absorb 50 percent of the damage you would receive while they are attacking). Do what you can to extend and sustain death-shroud as much as possible.

Those are your defensive options as a necromancer.

As I said, I don’t know about the expansion which I don’t have. Shambling Horror seems to be part of it. The Necromancer I’m playing with is completely useless when facing Necros with the expansion of GW2 in 1vs1. Also, I mentioned that Necromancer as a class is “special” enough so it needs to have a weakness, just like every class have some differences. If it was possible to create the same type of character from every class, having different classes would be pointless. But after spending some time in WvW, I see how rare Necros actually are. People don’t want to lose the duels. They want to escape when the situation is hopeless, and then attack and chase when its 5vs1 and so on. But I think there should be a tiny bit of hope, for any class to survive.

For now, it’s just no go for Necros if you want to survive. I play on a server which is not country/language based so no one cares about me. Also I don’t belong to any guild so people don’t care. I’m always left behind and dead with THIS CLASS. That’s a different thing if people don’t like me, but seems like Necromancer is meant only for people with friends.

If you’re main concern is that you feel weaker compared to HoT Necros then that is probably by design. They want HoT characters to feel strong so that everyone will buy HoT. Necromancer is my main character and I’ve enjoyed it from day one and still enjoy it. In WvW I mainly use my Necro to run with a zerg and with careful positioning and tactics they can survive just fine. I personally am terrible at 1v1 situations in any game but I’m sure there are many others out there that will tell you that in those situations Necro can be decent as well. If you die in WvW, just WP and continue on. Dying is part of the game. We can all learn and get better from it.

@Boysenberry.1869

Sigh… This thread is about the defensive gameplay of Necromancer as I clearly stated in my first post. Just like I mentioned that I could always go for the class which I feel is the “best”. I also mentioned that I have no knowledge about the expansion Necro. I don’t know about any of the other expansion characters either.

That is the exact reason why I wrote that this isn’t a thread about begging nonsense buffs. There is a reason for all changes in the gameplay mechanics. I’m merely sharing my experience of Necromancer gameplay during these years in WvW and bringing up a discussion of what other people feel about it. Please move on to another thread if you feel like being a smart kitten . Thanks.

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@Boysenberry.1869
and bringing up a discussion of what other people feel about it. Please move on to another thread if you feel like being a smart kitten . Thanks.

So now it seems you just don’t want to hear about other viewpoints judging by your mild insult about “smart kittens”. Which is odd because you claim to want to know how other people feel about Necros. I was merely responding to your post (mainly your second post which brought up HoT and WvW) in how I feel about the State of the Necromancer. If players abandon their fellow players that speaks about the players themselves and not the class. People can feel differently than you without being smart kittens.