Negative Feedback is important too!!

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

This is not a suggestion, this is a discussion. A suggestion could be drawn from here, but I would appreciated if we left this thread on here rather than on suggestions where it just dies without ever seeing any poster’s light.

We have the option to “upvote” posts, but we lack the option to downvote them. I understand that by limiting the options to only “positive” you are missing out on a very important part of expression and decision making. Remaining neutral is not the same, neutral means you neither agree nor disagree. Reporting is also not what we need. I often see the thumbs up posts but if I see a bad suggestion I would like to be able to let the dev/mods know that I do NOT agree

“Negative” feedback is important too and it does not mean negative is the bad sense of the word. When I mean negative feedback is for example;

Tittle: Armor should scale harder with levels

Text: blah blah blah, no gear progression sometimes is bad, blah blah blah, lvl 80 exotic should be 30% stronger than lvl 79, the threshold should exist, making WvW better for exotic gear . blah blah

Rating: Yes+ (20) ; No- (78) ; Neutral" (320), Views (3586)
“Neutral being all those who saw the post logged in without going for neither.
Also a numerical value might be needed, or at least a ration of bad to good (like youtube), 100% positive is not the same as 70% positive and 30% negative. Also, the current rating should be hidden until your own has been given, that way you can prevent from it influencing your own decision.

then people can put different points and the devs can analyse from which has positive and which has negative (subsequent posts) which part of the suggestion can be taken as a suggestion, rather than only those which people agree.

Overall I think that since we lack Polls this would be a good start

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Inb4 " I wish I could downvote this…." and “my lack of upvotes for you is as conclusive as downvoting you”

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Posted by: daver.8324

daver.8324

While I agree negative feedback is just as important, I find adding a numerical value to anything causes the kitten to hit the fan.

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

While I agree negative feedback is just as important, I find adding a numerical value to anything causes the kitten to hit the fan.

well, forget the number, but at least a ratio, otherwise seeing a 100% positive post is not the same as 68% positive 32% negative.

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Posted by: daver.8324

daver.8324

While I agree negative feedback is just as important, I find adding a numerical value to anything causes the kitten to hit the fan.

well, forget the number, but at least a ratio, otherwise seeing a 100% positive post is not the same as 68% positive 32% negative.

Still an Numerical value though, I might be naïve but I don’t think its right that some ideas rise to the top while others that might be equally good or better sink because a forumite doesn’t like it.

Other than that I agree if we have + why not -.

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

While I agree negative feedback is just as important, I find adding a numerical value to anything causes the kitten to hit the fan.

well, forget the number, but at least a ratio, otherwise seeing a 100% positive post is not the same as 68% positive 32% negative.

Still an Numerical value though, I might be naïve but I don’t think its right that some ideas rise to the top while others that might be equally good or better sink because a forumite doesn’t like it.

Other than that I agree if we have + why not -.

No, when I referred to youtube I didnt mean the good rising to the top, I mean the little bar where it shows likes/dislikes.

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Posted by: Jaall.3420

Jaall.3420

I agree with the concept but in practice it wouldn’t work at all. People would go around down voting everything just because they can and so nothing will ever get implemented on the basis that it has more negative votes. It happens all over with sites that have down voting, and is very clear where people haven’t even read what they’re disliking. Overall though it’s a good idea, but forum communities aren’t really place for that unless it’s a very close-knit community which an mmo isn’t really.

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Posted by: Siphaed.9235

Siphaed.9235

This is a site suggestion and should be moved to the SUGGESTION section. Who cares if other posters don’t read it? The matter is that the game’s developers, the webmasters, and moderators all view them. They’re the ones that can make the changes you ask for, NOT the other posters.

Yes, I would love to see a down-vote system similar to YouTube’s comment section. If a comment is down-voted so much, it becomes invisible unless someone chooses to click on it to see the comment.

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

Who cares if other posters don’t read it? The matter is that the game’s developers, the webmasters, and moderators all view them. They’re the ones that can make the changes you ask for, NOT the other posters.

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because you cant improve something if nobody sees it. Also who said devs/mods dont frequent GD? As a matter of fact GD should be the most important sicne stuffs are being discussed and improved, rather than just seen once, if anything

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

And here is the prove, right now it has 85 views, made on 4/21. Lets check it again on 4/22 and then on 5/1.

Once ain, mods keep fragmenting the forums, stuff should be more unified, rather than all over the place. It seriously feels almost as if they are purposely hiding it while not deleting it, “freedom of speech”.

Thats it, I give up with the forums, so much for trying to improve the game. Another potential help lost.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

Up-voting lets me indicate that I would have said exactly the same thing without making a “me too” post. If I disagree with a post but don’t say why, it has less value as feedback.

Don’t ever think you know what’s right for the other person.
He might start thinking he knows what’s right for you.
—Paul Williams

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

Pandemoniac.4739

I was looking over the description of changes to the +1 system in the news forum, and learned that the popularity of a post is relative to the number of +1s in the thread, so you can affect the thumbs up icon by posting an opposing view to a popular post and having lots of folks agree with you.

It’s kind of a cool system actually (IMO of course

Don’t ever think you know what’s right for the other person.
He might start thinking he knows what’s right for you.
—Paul Williams