Guild Wars 2

Hi all. I just wanted to discuss something with my fellow forum visitors about something that was shown to us when the new Super Adventure Box help site was made by Arenanet… At the very end of that page there was a little video called “Coming soon…” and it said it was coming on September the 17th. In the video you can see Tequatl the Sunless fight with new abilities like summoning waves etc. But the important part is that the narrator says that “it” has gathered powers in the DEPTHS and that it has become stronger faster etc. and that it has come to devour us all… Are you all thinking what I’m thinking? wink Bubbles* wink*?

bubbles? what bubbles? O_O

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

bubbles? what bubbles? O_O

“Bubbles” is the name given by fans to the unknown underwater Elder Dragon.

I’d actually say that the ‘it’ was referring to Tequatl:

• Tequatl comes out of the depths, so to speak.
• The mechanics are supposed to have made it tougher, which is the whole ‘it is faster. stronger’ thing.

but what makes tequatl so special?? and why does the title say “Rising”?

Death Diablos.6702:

but what makes tequatl so special?? and why does the title say “Rising”?

Maybe because Tquatl is rising up from the depths of the ocean. It could be that simple.

Vayne, why u so op? Also, why did they make it dat simple!! I WANT BUBBLES!!!

Death Diablos.6702:

Vayne, why u so op? Also, why did they make it dat simple!! I WANT BUBBLES!!!

It’ll get there. Patience is a virtue. lol

Link the video please. Always link a video.

http://youtu.be/W88hjgWI3QM

curses i didnt see the video’s name… It rlly does say Tequatl rising…

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

Because it’s much less resource-intensive to revamp an old encounter than create a whole new one.

Also, the old bosses really needed revamping to make them truly epic.

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

You mean make new stuff instead of fixing the old stuff? I disagree completely. It’s not a missed opportunity it’s what they said they would do. Fix what’s there.

Tom Gore.4035:

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

Because it’s much less resource-intensive to revamp an old encounter than create a whole new one.

Also, the old bosses really needed revamping to make them truly epic.

I don’t know, this looks to be pretty much a new encounter. Seems like it shouldn’t have taken all that much more effort to make it even more ‘new’ by introducing another dragon champion, and there’s certain veggie dragon players of sylvari have encountered that would have worked nicely. Set the encounter in a different zone and voila: the game has grown!

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

You mean make new stuff instead of fixing the old stuff? I disagree completely. It’s not a missed opportunity it’s what they said they would do. Fix what’s there.

Heh.

Making new stuff does not exclude fixing old stuff. And of course I never said old stuff shouldn’t be fixed. You seem to have a habit of responding to things people didn’t say.

Do you disagree?

I disagree that they should prioritize making new stuff over fixing existing stuff

It’s basically what you implied, like it or not.

Wolfheart.1938:

I disagree that they should prioritize making new stuff over fixing existing stuff

It’s basically what you implied, like it or not.

Technically, this is new stuff.

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

To be fair, the Karka were a result of Bubbles p-ing them off, which was how they got to Southsun in the first place.

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

You mean make new stuff instead of fixing the old stuff? I disagree completely. It’s not a missed opportunity it’s what they said they would do. Fix what’s there.

Heh.

Making new stuff does not exclude fixing old stuff. And of course I never said old stuff shouldn’t be fixed. You seem to have a habit of responding to things people didn’t say.

Do you disagree?

Yep, you said missed opportunity. Why is fixing the old stuff a missed opportunity…it makes no sense. The new stuff will be ready when they finish making it. As you say, it looks like a completely new encounter, therefore it is new stuff.

The problem is you say stuff and try to backpeddle…do you disagree?

Death Diablos.6702:

But the important part is that the narrator says that “it” has gathered powers in the DEPTHS and that it has become stronger faster etc. and that it has come to devour us all… Are you all thinking what I’m thinking? wink Bubbles* wink*?

Or Zhaitan is still alive. I never did the last story mission but from I heard he fell into the ocean right? And seeing as how Tequatl is a champion of Zhaitan and Zhaitan might be resting (if he’s still alive) in the ocean maybe he got powered up by him as Zhaitan’s first act of vengeance.

CaboSoul.1204:

Death Diablos.6702:

But the important part is that the narrator says that “it” has gathered powers in the DEPTHS and that it has become stronger faster etc. and that it has come to devour us all… Are you all thinking what I’m thinking? wink Bubbles* wink*?

Or Zhaitan is still alive. I never did the last story mission but from I heard he fell into the ocean right? And seeing as how Tequatl is a champion of Zhaitan and Zhaitan might be resting (if he’s still alive) in the ocean maybe he got powered up by him as Zhaitan’s first act of vengeance.

That would quite a nice theory to hang to. Whilst it’s probable he’s intended to be dead, it is possible for them to go back and explore the chance he’s not. I doubt they will invalidate the end of the personal story though, but options exist.

Sadly no Dragon stuff was confirmed for this year iirc. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t explore the idea later Teq has drawn magic from the UW dragon in someways..

Do you think maybe the underwater elder dragon will actually be called Bubbles? that would be Epic.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/e98b9fcb8fe2d974ebd3a335ff84cb8e/tumblr_mi1me64v9d1rqfhi2o1_250.gif

“Bubbles? I’m the zhaitaffies prince of darkness!”

Cue Hellraiser.

I think it’s just a cool advertisement for the new Teq encounter. Don’t think it has anything to do with Bubbles

The only thing we ever seen of Bubbles was a two second teaser at the end of the manifesto trailer years ago. Back then Cantha had a district, dyes were account wide unlocks, there was an entire team devoted to extended experience, and the Dragons were the main antagonist and immediate threat to the world that we battled via evolving dynamic event chains that shaped the surrounding area.

Cantha is not a district, dyes unlock per character, extended experience was reduced to a bare bones API and put in the hands of the community, the Dragons went back to sleep and we are battling cartoon characters via temporary content while ignored dynamic events have left the world static.

I’m personally never really expecting anything related to Bubbles to materialize in the game.

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Tequatl is an undead dragon, a lieutenant and champion of Zhaitan. Which begs the question:

Why Tequatl?

Why not a new dragon, a champion of an Elder Dragon as yet unseen? A precursor, if you will, of things to come.

Anet may have forgotten about the other Elder Dragons, but I haven’t.

So, regardless of whether the revamp works or not, I’m calling this yet another missed opportunity in a game full of missed opportunities.

You mean make new stuff instead of fixing the old stuff? I disagree completely. It’s not a missed opportunity it’s what they said they would do. Fix what’s there.

Heh.

Making new stuff does not exclude fixing old stuff. And of course I never said old stuff shouldn’t be fixed. You seem to have a habit of responding to things people didn’t say.

Do you disagree?

Yep, you said missed opportunity. Why is fixing the old stuff a missed opportunity…it makes no sense. The new stuff will be ready when they finish making it. As you say, it looks like a completely new encounter, therefore it is new stuff.

The problem is you say stuff and try to backpeddle…do you disagree?

Hah! Backpeddle, indeed. Where is this backpeddle? Point it out! What’s that? You can’t? Well, why not? Could it possibly be because it doesn’t exist anywhere except in the post where you made it up?

Hmm. Imagine that. Oh, wait. You did!

Moving on.

They’re not ‘fixing’ the Tequatl event. There’s nothing wrong with the Tequatl event. It may not be a particularly brilliant event, but it’s not bugged or broken. Is it? No. What they are doing is replacing it. With a new (and theoretically improved) Tequatl event. Do you disagree?

Which could just as easily have featured some dragon other than Tequatl, like perhaps the one in the sylvari story – I called it the ‘veggie dragon’ but thanks to you I’ve hit upon a better name – Bakpedalus!

Bakpedalus could have been the star of a new dragon event in some other zone. This gloriously new Bakpedalus event could have been something added to the game, something that would have brought some much needed growth to the game instead of a replacement for something already there that didn’t necessarily need replacing.

Which is why I dubbed it as yet another…

(….drum roll…)

Missed Opportunity!

So. Which way are we peddling now?

Tachenon.5270:

They’re not ‘fixing’ the Tequatl event. There’s nothing wrong with the Tequatl event. It may not be a particularly brilliant event, but it’s not bugged or broken. Is it? No. What they are doing is replacing it. With a new (and theoretically improved) Tequatl event. Do you disagree?

No matter how you say it, there IS something wrong when a big encounter is now a “spam1 to kill the dragon” event. They want the Lieutenant fights, no most World Boss fights, to be more fun and exciting than pressing 1 and standing in a safe zone. Tequatl is only the beginning, I bet they will change most of them.

Which could just as easily have featured some dragon other than Tequatl, like perhaps the one in the sylvari story – I called it the ‘veggie dragon’ but thanks to you I’ve hit upon a better name – Bakpedalus!

No. They are improving the CURRENT existing game with an encounter that is more fun and engaging than the old one. There is no need to add a new Dragon when you revamp an old encounter. And the revamp was badly needed no matter what you say.

There is no missed opportunity here, just Arenanet changing an unfun encounter to something that LOOKS better, we don’t know if it actually is until we play it.

maddoctor.2738:

They are improving the CURRENT existing game with an encounter that is more fun and engaging than the old one.

That remains to be seen.

As for the rest, we have differing opinions – and that’s cool! I appreciate that you didn’t disagree with me for something I didn’t say.

What happened here? o.O

Tachenon.5270:

Wolfheart.1938:

I disagree that they should prioritize making new stuff over fixing existing stuff

It’s basically what you implied, like it or not.

Technically, this is new stuff.

Technically everything they have done after release is new stuff, but I give you a 7/10 for the creative cop out!

The question is how does this tie into the story? Or have the devs completely abandoned the whole story thing at this point after the failure that was scarlet?

Is it a new dragon??? (4:18)

Mikau.6920:

Is it a new dragon??? (4:18)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPwxUu6kSI

Nah that is just the Dragon that All New Silvari Characters fight in the dream as part of the tutorial area.

I don’t think this has anything to do with Bubbles. Teq was Zhaitans champ which means he was undead. And Only Zhaitan could control him. I doubt Bubbles has that ability since every Dragons power is different.

I think this is just simply a remake to an existing fight. And frankly I hope it is more challenging.

AcidicVision.5498:

The only thing we ever seen of Bubbles was a two second teaser at the end of the manifesto trailer years ago. Back then Cantha had a district, dyes were account wide unlocks, there was an entire team devoted to extended experience, and the Dragons were the main antagonist and immediate threat to the world that we battled via evolving dynamic event chains that shaped the surrounding area.

Cantha is not a district, dyes unlock per character, extended experience was reduced to a bare bones API and put in the hands of the community, the Dragons went back to sleep and we are battling cartoon characters via temporary content while ignored dynamic events have left the world static.

I’m personally never really expecting anything related to Bubbles to materialize in the game.

So sad but so true.

But for the record, I give props to Anet for being so good at hyping up content and stuff via trailers and pre-release website info but most of the time the content is not as good as you expected it to be and what you thought was gonna be epic is purely based on your bias view of the hyped up trailers and stuff.

And yes, I want GW2 to get back on track with the Elder Dragon stories but unfortunately we won’t be seeing those for quite a while since the dev team is obviously so fond of making temporary content about parties, festivals, and cute, cuddly, and cartooney events.

Inb4 The elder dragons are the heroes and Scarlet is the true villain.

I just don’t know why Sarah Kerrigan is narrating the video?

We’re not getting anymore elder dragons if there are greater threats out there like Sky Pirates and Robots.

I require Kralkatorrik :C

Death Diablos.6702:

What happened here? o.O

Same thing that usually happens here in the forums…
Opinions gets shoved in peoples faces and people make darn sure that everyone knows how superior their opinions are to everyone elses…
:P

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

Death Diablos.6702:

What happened here? o.O

Same thing that usually happens here in the forums…
Opinions gets shoved in peoples faces and people make darn sure that everyone knows how superior their opinions are to everyone elses…
:P

Im scared now o.o

Will there be better loot?