New Infusions, Are They Agony Resist as well.

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Posted by: IceCold.5172

IceCold.5172

Just been looking at the new stuff you get from the new patch. I was looking at the new ascended amulets and infusions. I was wondering are they agony resistance as well.

It dont say.?

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Posted by: Magistrella.6970

Magistrella.6970

Some Agony resist Infusions are omni-infusions, as in infusions you can put in any slot. So you will be able to put in Agony Resistance Infusions bought in FotM Lab in a Utility Slot

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Posted by: IceCold.5172

IceCold.5172

Thats not what i said. The new infusions from the new vendor outside fractral dungeon, near the portals. He now sells some infusions, for example, vit ones, power etc but they are not showing any agony resistance on them. I was wondering if they come with agony resistance.

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Posted by: Magistrella.6970

Magistrella.6970

It does clearly not say agony resistance on them so they do not have resistance. They are purely utility.

Greetz (‘-’)/

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Posted by: irrimn.3192

irrimn.3192

It appears they do not come with agony resistance.

I think they should make them come with agony resistance. Just 4 stats on an infusion is next to useless. Who is really gonna waste their time with just 4 stats?

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Posted by: Palaryel.2463

Palaryel.2463

They do NOT give agony resistance at the moment, my best guess is:
1. They are upgradeable (likely)
OR
2. You can craft an infusion like the buyable on with AR included (not so likely)
OR
3. The utility infusions are meant to be without AR (not likely)

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Posted by: idorian.2859

idorian.2859

do someone knows if these new infusions stacks?

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Posted by: Palu.3405

Palu.3405

ANet has already stated that none of the items which can be purchased with laurels will provide agony resistance; I don’t see why that wouldn’t apply to the infusions. I don’t think they will be upgradeable because a) agony resistance is only needed for the Fractals dungeon and b) with the new laurels system, in conjunction with the mystic forge-created infusions, one can get at least 15 or 20 agony resistance without ever stepping foot in fractals.

Edit: To reply to idorian, (correct me if I’m wrong) only an amulet can currently receive a utility infusion. So yes and no, they might be stackable in the future, but currently there are not multiple pieces of gear to stack them in.

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Posted by: BroScientist.9875

BroScientist.9875

How many slots does ascended gear have? I recall it just being one. So if it’s one then that means every time we want to run a fractal we have to replace our infusion that doesn’t have AR with one that does?

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Posted by: Palaryel.2463

Palaryel.2463

ANet has already stated that none of the items which can be purchased with laurels will provide agony resistance; I don’t see why that wouldn’t apply to the infusions. I don’t think they will be upgradeable because a) agony resistance is only needed for the Fractals dungeon and b) with the new laurels system, in conjunction with the mystic forge-created infusions, one can get at least 15 or 20 agony resistance without ever stepping foot in fractals.

Edit: To reply to idorian, (correct me if I’m wrong) only an amulet can currently receive a utility infusion. So yes and no, they might be stackable in the future, but currently there are not multiple pieces of gear to stack them in.

where did they state that?
Also, didn’t Ascended gear imply AR by default, makes no sense TBH.

Even if what you said is true: you can still craft an off/def infusion with 5 AR or buy a versatile simple infusion and put it into an off/def amulet^^

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Posted by: Palaryel.2463

Palaryel.2463

They shouldn’t have agony resist.

The new laurel gear was added for the whiners who didn’t want to do fractals for their ascended goodies.

So now you have it and you want to use it to do the fractals which you wouldn’t do to get it in the first place?

Ascended gear was made with infusions and agony resistance in mind, having fractals go ad infinitum while providing no additional agony resistance makes no sense, thus adding more ascended gear with no agony resistance makes no sense

we shall know in ~3 weeks once someone gets an amulet and checks if you can upgrade it at the MF (OR if a developer/moderator/… comes here and decides to enlighten us and put a end to this thread xD)

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Posted by: idorian.2859

idorian.2859

ANet has already stated that none of the items which can be purchased with laurels will provide agony resistance; I don’t see why that wouldn’t apply to the infusions. I don’t think they will be upgradeable because a) agony resistance is only needed for the Fractals dungeon and b) with the new laurels system, in conjunction with the mystic forge-created infusions, one can get at least 15 or 20 agony resistance without ever stepping foot in fractals.

Edit: To reply to idorian, (correct me if I’m wrong) only an amulet can currently receive a utility infusion. So yes and no, they might be stackable in the future, but currently there are not multiple pieces of gear to stack them in.

i didn’t notice that only amulet had utility slot! thanks for the hint!

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Posted by: Palu.3405

Palu.3405

where did they state that?
Also, didn’t Ascended gear imply AR by default, makes no sense TBH.

Even if what you said is true: you can still craft an off/def infusion with 5 AR or buy a versatile simple infusion and put it into an off/def amulet^^

Colin Johansen stated it about a week ago:

Good question!

Ascended rings will also be available for laurels as well. Back slot items will be made more widely available in the future and will likely tie into a different reward system.

(Please note, the ascended gear purchased for laurels will not have agony resistance built in, since that mechanic is currently unique to progression in the fractal dungeons. They are however statistically the same as any other ascended gear.)

We will also introduce an additional reward system (or systems) in the future to make these items more accessible to WvW players on top of the laurel system.

The remaining ascended item types will be introduced in future releases, and may or may not tie into the laurel system, TBD.

I interpret “ascended gear” in the above quote to include infusions, since they can only be put in ascended items.

Yes, ascended gear came out with the fractals dungeon, but I think the design philosophy around it has shifted to make it more of an overall upgrade to exotics than something fractals specific. It should also be noted that all the non-infused fractal rings and the first tier of the ascended back items don’t have any inherent agony resistance (though granted their final forms do).

All that being said though, you are absolutely correct that we have the option of infusing these new amulets with AR, and I think we will see many players (myself included) doing so to either progress further into fractals or to min-max their stats, since the infusions that provide combat stats +5 all have +5 AR as well.

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Posted by: Palaryel.2463

Palaryel.2463

Colin Johansen stated it about a week ago:

Good question!

Ascended rings will also be available for laurels as well. Back slot items will be made more widely available in the future and will likely tie into a different reward system.

(Please note, the ascended gear purchased for laurels will not have agony resistance built in, since that mechanic is currently unique to progression in the fractal dungeons. They are however statistically the same as any other ascended gear.)

We will also introduce an additional reward system (or systems) in the future to make these items more accessible to WvW players on top of the laurel system.

The remaining ascended item types will be introduced in future releases, and may or may not tie into the laurel system, TBD.

Analyzing the important bit & underlining the AR related bit:
(Please note, the ascended gear purchased for laurels will not have agony resistance built in, since that mechanic is currently unique to progression in the fractal dungeons.

My guess the amulet will be infusable

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Posted by: Essence Snow.3194

Essence Snow.3194

do someone knows if these new infusions stacks?

That’s what I’d like to know…….6*20% increased gold looted from monsters +40% from bars…Kloher and Troll would net 52s?

Serenity now~Insanity later

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Posted by: Dytima.4092

Dytima.4092

Has anyone tested to see if the “Versatile Simple Infusion” will go into an item with a Utility Infusion slot?

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Posted by: CHOAM.7852

CHOAM.7852

Has anyone tested to see if the “Versatile Simple Infusion” will go into an item with a Utility Infusion slot?

I don’t see how anyone could afford an amulet to perform this test, unless there’s another way to get the amulet that I am not aware of yet.

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Posted by: Palaryel.2463

Palaryel.2463

Has anyone tested to see if the “Versatile Simple Infusion” will go into an item with a Utility Infusion slot?

Theoretically it should be possible.

However, nothing is stopping you from buying an amulet with an offensive/defensive slot

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Posted by: CHOAM.7852

CHOAM.7852

Has anyone tested to see if the “Versatile Simple Infusion” will go into an item with a Utility Infusion slot?

I don’t see how anyone could afford an amulet to perform this test, unless there’s another way to get the amulet that I am not aware of yet.

Nevermind, Triforge upgrades gives utility slot… anyone tried it yet?

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Posted by: Deadlyflea.4029

Deadlyflea.4029

Has anyone tested to see if the “Versatile Simple Infusion” will go into an item with a Utility Infusion slot?

I don’t see how anyone could afford an amulet to perform this test, unless there’s another way to get the amulet that I am not aware of yet.

Yes it is possible, just tested with my ascended Triforge Pendant.
(see attachment)

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Posted by: Phoenixfudge.5290

Phoenixfudge.5290

do someone knows if these new infusions stacks?

That’s what I’d like to know…….6*20% increased gold looted from monsters +40% from bars…Kloher and Troll would net 52s?

and don’t forget about the 30% coin booster

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Posted by: Palaryel.2463

Palaryel.2463

Has anyone tested to see if the “Versatile Simple Infusion” will go into an item with a Utility Infusion slot?

I don’t see how anyone could afford an amulet to perform this test, unless there’s another way to get the amulet that I am not aware of yet.

Yes it is possible, just tested with my ascended Triforge Pendant.
(see attachment)

could you try to put the triforge into the MF so we get an idea if it is infusable

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Posted by: Deadlyflea.4029

Deadlyflea.4029

could you try to put the triforge into the MF so we get an idea if it is infusable

Just tested, it doesn’t appear on the list of items to place in the forge.