Guild Wars 2

Are you going to continue adding new ways to obtain Ascended Gear?

I would like an answer to the above question because with the advent of Laurels and Guild Missions my two friends and I are thinking of taking a break from the game until you add ways to obtain the best gear where we don’t have to rely so heavily on other people.

We’re getting sick and tired of dealing with PUGs for content, because most of the players we get are absolutely terrible and our Blocked lists are growing far larger then they should be.

Here’s why I ask though: We like your game. We want to keep playing your game, but with certain Ascended gear gated behind systems where we’d fall significantly behind if we took a break (Laurels), we’re beginning to wonder if we should just quit altogether. None of us want to even level new characters because of this and we don’t want to play the game just for Dailies because that would make us hate your game and we don’t want that.

So are you going to add alternative ways to attain ascended gear or is it going to remain gated behind content that relies on us having to form PUGs with people that are only causing us grief?

Inb4 Elitist: All we ask is that people don’t waste our time. If you are causing us to wipe on things we know we are capable of with competent people, you are wasting our time.

If this were any other MMO I wouldn’t be making a post like this because I expect certain content to be gated behind certain restrictions like requiring a certain number of people or what have you, but seeing as how those were things you promised NOT to do I have to ask the question, if you’ve decided to go in a different direction then you previously intended, fine, it’s disappointing, but fine.

are you in a guild?

Errrmmmm. You dont need to pug to join dailys. Also im not saying this to be elitist or anything

But if you want to realy enjoy an MMO (any mmo) join a guild! But dont just join any guild join a guild that meets the requirments you have to enjoy the game.

As for gear takeing time to get. Who cares! You dont need it to complete content. And just through standard play you will have it eventually

There’s plenty out there and if you can fined a guild of like minded people (or when i shold say) they will probably be happy to take you

We’re in our own guild, we have the first tier of Guild Missions unlocked. We’re not looking to merge with other guilds. If we happen to find people that we like and play the game well then we make an effort to invite them to play with us regularly, except we rarely find people that meet those two requirements and when we do, they either leave for bigger guilds or stop playing.

Also only half of my post was in reference to PUGs.

We don’t want to take a break because the alternative to obtaining certain Ascended gear is a straight up time block. If we take a break we fall behind and we’re right back where we started. We don’t want to create new characters because with the current system it requires like 3 months of doing Dailies every day to outfit a new character with those Ascended items.

As for gear takeing time to get. Who cares! You dont need it to complete content. And just through standard play you will have it eventually

We care, we don’t want to have to wait 3+ months to outfit each new character with the best gear simply because we have no other alternatives that we can do without going through the painful process of doing things with PUGs.

I would like to see a useful alternative than Fractals for back pieces. Right now the only way to get them is to get the Vials from Fractals and lots of stuff.

Stop and fall off the treadmill, GW2 new philosophy.

I don’t mean to sound harsh, but if you feel that the process for Ascended Gear is too much then just simply don’t do it. There is absolutely nothing in this game that requires you to have Ascended Gear, the stats are fairly nice but not so much better that you can’t play with far easier to obtain exotics instead.

I’m not really sure why people feel they have to have everything in order to succeed in this game. For example, I think the process for Legendary Weapons is completely ridiculous, so I simply don’t do it. I’m more then happy just using my Exotic Weapons and spending my time doing things that are more fun for me.

If the process isn’t something you enjoy, just skip it. It’s really that easy.

Agree with the OP. Except from the point of view of WvW.

I don’t want to gather or craft to get laurels. I want to kill people and take objectives. Before Ascended gear, this was a perfectly viable way to get best in slot gear. Not now.

There better be a forthcoming way to get Laurels in WvW without having to depend on dailies. I hate the concept of dailies to begin with. Same with dungeons. I’m not going to do them to get my gear.

There are other games that currently have viable WvW-only progression systems (e.g. Planetside 2). The fact that WvW progression is currently so screwed up shows it was an afterthought added when the game was handed over from the developers to the live team.

If this isn’t fixed relatively soonish (next month), I’ll start counting the days until TESO.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

I would like to see a useful alternative than Fractals for back pieces. Right now the only way to get them is to get the Vials from Fractals and lots of stuff.

As much as i hate doing fractals now (when it’s no longer fun and became a chore), and how the tying ascended eq to Fractals was a bad idea, having all ascended type eq acquirable there in the same way as rings would be an improvement over what we have now.
There’s not enough variance in getting the other eq, and the time gating is a complete fun killer (especially if you do have several alts).

Darth Llama.9217:

I don’t mean to sound harsh, but if you feel that the process for Ascended Gear is too much then just simply don’t do it. There is absolutely nothing in this game that requires you to have Ascended Gear, the stats are fairly nice but not so much better that you can’t play with far easier to obtain exotics instead.

I’m not really sure why people feel they have to have everything in order to succeed in this game. For example, I think the process for Legendary Weapons is completely ridiculous, so I simply don’t do it. I’m more then happy just using my Exotic Weapons and spending my time doing things that are more fun for me.

If the process isn’t something you enjoy, just skip it. It’s really that easy.

Except for, you know, Fractals. Which we enjoy doing when we have competent people. Also we don’t settle for second-best, that’s not who we are and not how we want to play. We joined this game because it had a gear plateau that was fairly casual and we could enjoy the game simply for what it was instead of worrying about grinding gear, which is exactly what we’d be doing when we’re getting to the point of only getting on to do Dailies.

Not having the best gear means we’re not playing the best way possible, which is how we play our games. All I want to know is if they are going to continue to add more ways to obtain this gear other than teaming up with people we don’t like or getting on to do Dailies everyday for 3+ months per character.

Kuishen.6140:

All I want to know is if they are going to continue to add more ways to obtain this gear other than teaming up with people we don’t like or getting on to do Dailies everyday for 3+ months per character.

Unfortunately your chances at getting an answer here is pretty much zero. We might as well be talking to a brick wall here, on all of these issues.

Kuishen.6140:

Except for, you know, Fractals. Which we enjoy doing when we have competent people. Also we don’t settle for second-best, that’s not who we are and not how we want to play. We joined this game because it had a gear plateau that was fairly casual and we could enjoy the game simply for what it was instead of worrying about grinding gear, which is exactly what we’d be doing when we’re getting to the point of only getting on to do Dailies.

Not having the best gear means we’re not playing the best way possible, which is how we play our games. All I want to know is if they are going to continue to add more ways to obtain this gear other than teaming up with people we don’t like or getting on to do Dailies everyday for 3+ months per character.

Fair enough.

I play casually as well, and I totally understand what you’re talking about. I’m just used to the idea that if you want ‘the best’ in a game like this it usually means you have to devote far more time then I would ever consider. To me personally, I don’t need ‘the best’ to enjoy the game, but it’s always nice to have something to work toward.

I certainly wouldn’t object to them putting in a better way of getting this gear, but it seems to me after the last update that they are going in the exact opposite direction. The newer items not only require more laurels but Ecto as well. I think Arena Net wants Ascended Items to be reserved for those that put in significant time which sadly will rule out players like you and I.

Time isn’t the issue. It’s them telling me I can’t progress past a certain point each day and/or them telling me I have to be a part of a large guild to do certain things.

If I could grind away my ascended gear with my 2 friends in something that doesn’t have a block put in place to where we can only progress a certain amount each day/week, I wouldn’t have an issue.