Guild Wars 2

Let’s say tomorrow Arenanet announces the newest expansion(let’s call it Cantha for now), and advertises 2 new Legendary Weapons available to those who buy Cantha, would you be okay with that?

Given that HoT was advertised with 16 new Legendary Weapons, would you feel scammed that you now have to buy Cantha to get the 2 next Legendary Weapons that were once promised as part of HoT?

What if they make the 2 Legendary Weapons require materials/currency/masteries that can only be obtained in Cantha? Is that okay?

Before you say that this wont happen, let me remind you that Precursor Crafting was once promised in 2013 for the core game for which we paid, was then given to us under HoT for which we also paid. Plans change, and plans to make more HoT Legendaries also changed, and to include the newest Legendaries into the next expansion instead of HoT might be part of the change of plan…

P.S: This is about new Legendary Weapons (if) coming advertised with the next expansion, or new Legendary Weapons requiring things from the next expansion. This thread is not about Arenanet putting next Legendary Weapons on indefinite hiatus, there’s another thread for that.

Let’s say clearly to Arenanet whether we are okay with new Legendary Weapons(that were once promised with HoT) being advertised as part of the next expansion instead.

Yep plus 12 other characters

No. I wouldn’t be ok with that.

If we will be getting any legendary weapons it better be before the next expansion or be free for anyone with HoT. Anything other than that is taking what I already paid for and asking me to pay for it again. Weapons can still be found on the HoT advertisement page.

Due to the way legendaries were actually advertised (on the site), they could easily get away with requiring the next expansion to continue building the second set of legendaries. Only the beginning of the legendary journey was advertised to be included with HoT itself, while the actual weapons are post-HoT content. They wouldn’t even need an expansion to create a wall, as new materials could easily be included in season 3. Personally, I’d expect to see that in order to make the seasons more valuable because not everyone cares about a story.

I doubt they’ll even announce legendaries with the next expansion however. Personally, I don’t care what they do. As for only offering a few legendaries per expansion, WoW does that.

Well… I doubt they would advertise legendaries with an expansion ever again. Not after what they pulled of.

It would be fairly stupid of them to advertise it as part of an expac, however since HoT will come free with the expac, technically it would still fall under the HoT umbrella.

It is a matter of being clear they arent being added with the new xpac, but as late content for the previous..

Regardless, id buy an expac based on a wide range of things, not just whether legendaries were or not included

NO!

Don’t want them promising something so difficult to develop that they can’t even get HoT ones out. No legendaries for the love of God. Thank you.

Yeah, let’s not do that okay…. legendaries are fine and all, but I would rather see them develop something besides fancy looking art assets and effects for weapons. Something that could potentially see re-use, like I don’t know, maybe game mechanics, monster AI, animation rigs etc.

Crise.9401:

Something that could potentially see re-use, like I don’t know, maybe game mechanics, monster AI, animation rigs etc.

Oh yeah .. i have a vision of new “challenging” content with new mechanics,
instead of perma-stunlock and pushing you to the ground, mobs now learn
to play Badminton with players. Flying through the air until your dead each
time you meet a mob .. wouldn’t that be great challenging fun ?

That would actually be a kick in the balls of everyone who bought HoT for the legendaries. Therfore I say it will happen.^^

If they do I’ll just consider it vaporware (vaporpromises?). Anything that isn’t there at launch is not to be counted on or considered when it comes to looking at the price.

Let’s say Anet turns completely stupid, what would you say?

Wow, how thick do you think the people at Anet are? After this fiasco, do you honestly think they don’t know how the reactions would be? Seriously…

I would maybe expect another legendary armor or backpiece, but no weapons.

Torolan.5816:

That would actually be a kick in the balls of everyone who bought HoT for the legendaries. Therfore I say it will happen.^^

I guess also they will sell those Legendarys now forever .. in every expansion that
will see the light of the world .. THIS expansion will now really bring you all the
missing legendarys .. oh no, not this time .. but the next will bring them really,
but maybe not at release .. but at least when the next expansion is released ^^

Beldin.5498:

Torolan.5816:

That would actually be a kick in the balls of everyone who bought HoT for the legendaries. Therfore I say it will happen.^^

I guess also they will sell those Legendarys now forever .. in every expansion that
will see the light of the world .. THIS expansion will now really bring you all the
missing legendarys .. oh no, not this time .. but the next will bring them really,
but maybe not at release .. but at least when the next expansion is released ^^

I can imagine MO, grininng from ear to erar, bring the news:
“Ok, we did not manage to bring them all to you this time, but we have made a nice legendary spear for you! Be grateful!”
^^

Torolan.5816:

Beldin.5498:

Torolan.5816:

That would actually be a kick in the balls of everyone who bought HoT for the legendaries. Therfore I say it will happen.^^

I guess also they will sell those Legendarys now forever .. in every expansion that
will see the light of the world .. THIS expansion will now really bring you all the
missing legendarys .. oh no, not this time .. but the next will bring them really,
but maybe not at release .. but at least when the next expansion is released ^^

I can imagine MO, grininng from ear to erar, bring the news:
“Ok, we did not manage to bring them all to you this time, but we have made a nice legendary spear for you! Be grateful!”
^^

And ofc its raid exclusive .. if it ever really will be released .. normal folks don’t
need legendarys .. only true players do.

Oh .. and we deleted all other legendary from players that have never beaten
Raid tier 26 .. they simply were not worthy to keep them ^^

A lot of moustache twirling is included while writing down those patch notes

I really don’t see any point in discussing this until the HoT Legendarys development is reactivated.

They can advertise as many Legendaries as they like, though I am sure most people will not believe a word of it.

I could care less. As in, I really don’t care much about it, but still could care even less. That’s why I wrote this post that doesn’t add anything to this discussion. Sorry.

They wouldn’t do that, they have postponed legendaries for the time being.

At this point it’s about trust, do the customers trust. Trust has to be earned and leads to loyalty. I’m not feeling particularly trusting nor loyal to anet at this time so unless something radically changes I will be keeping my money.

You PvE player are adorable complaining about your legendary weapons when WvW players are stuck suffering with a barely playable map that they implemented with HOT until they figure out how to bring the old maps back..

If you’re going to complain about something, pick an area of the game that needs attention, not WEAPON SKINS.. I think we have plenty enough of those for now.

It would not bother me, as I would likely purchase, if not pre-purchase the next expansion, regardless. /shrug

AN needs to be careful what they commit to. That’s all I’m going to say

Since the question is specifically about opinions, here’s mine. I don’t really care. Legendaries (of which I have crafted one) comprise an amusing side game that means little to me. I tend to focus on ascended gear instead. In fairness, part of this is the fact that the appearance, in general, of legendary weapons in GW2 doesn’t much appeal to me.

When HoT was released, the mention of legendary weapons didn’t get much of a rise out of me to begin with. Not sure how prevalent among the broad player base my view is.

As for the next expansion in general, I am far more interested in the new maps.

Probably not. They are going to be working/waiting on current ones getting finished for years to come probably. Better off if they stuck to making more (non legendary) armor sets instead. Armor is apparently difficult for them but at least it wouldn’t require special effects and large collections. Much better addition too as long as they are unique instead of the same old coats and buttcapes.

I would be kittening livid.

Elothar.4382:

Since the question is specifically about opinions, here’s mine. I don’t really care. Legendaries (of which I have crafted one) comprise an amusing side game that means little to me. I tend to focus on ascended gear instead. In fairness, part of this is the fact that the appearance, in general, of legendary weapons in GW2 doesn’t much appeal to me.

When HoT was released, the mention of legendary weapons didn’t get much of a rise out of me to begin with. Not sure how prevalent among the broad player base my view is.

As for the next expansion in general, I am far more interested in the new maps.

you dont have to care about a thing to realize that people do, and that a thing was promised and not delivered. i dont give two kittens about SAB but im really happy that anet finally delivered on something that SO many people wanted

That wasn’t the question. OP asked for opinions and that is mine. I represent no one but myself. If others care, I assume they will post and I have no intention of arguing with them.

Let’s fix the acquisition of the existing ones first, then we can start thinking about adding more.

Have you tried making a legendary inscription? I can’t remember the last time I got rugged leather anywhere in the game with any character.

Oh, wait. A map bonus. It gave freaking 5 scraps. 5. After gods know how many events. Killing game and salvaging the pelts or killing enemy factions and opening bags isn’t reliable either. There’s no leather nodes, and nothing like a permanent Bazaar of the Four winds where you can exchange some materials for others with a weekly cap for each trade or anything like that.

First they need to address gathering. And acquisition of basic materials. No half measures. It needs a rework altogether. Loading countless characters and gathering in the same spot over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over pause to breath until you hate the letter F to the marrow of your bones should never be more efficient that exploring the world, visiting many different places, doing many different things, reaching hard reach place without the help of some mesmer doing things for you, or completing many different instanced challenges. This is a game, we should have fun while aiming towards reasonably attainable goals, not having to choose between fun and getting anything done.

And so, unless that’s addressed, legendaries would be just for players that come from grinder games and don’t mind the mindless grind, instead for the actual target audience of GW2 who wants rewards for doing things that deserve rewards.

No one actually cares about legendaries, people want the rare cool skins. HoT failed on that in a couple ways, both the legendary collection thing as well as just not having a lot of skins in general.

The next expansion needs to have a lot of skins earned via drops or simple achievements (like you beat a dungeon, you earn tokens for it), not convoluted legendary collections.

Fluffball.8307:

No one actually cares about legendaries, people want the rare cool skins. HoT failed on that in a couple ways, both the legendary collection thing as well as just not having a lot of skins in general.

The next expansion needs to have a lot of skins earned via drops or simple achievements (like you beat a dungeon, you earn tokens for it), not convoluted legendary collections.

the 60+ page thread about legendaries not being worked on begs to differ. literally everyone i know begs to differ. people care enormously about legendaries

Given recent developments, I must say no.

Felahr.9830:

the 60+ page thread about legendaries not being worked on begs to differ. literally everyone i know begs to differ. people care enormously about legendaries

Nope, you misunderstood. I’m talking about skins, not the item nomenclature. Anet could easily release 100 new legendaries (precursors) as rare drops, but they make them all gem store items instead.

This is true. Most people just want it for the unique look. Unless you’re a hardcore, min-maxer, 3-5 points ain’t making a world of difference.

If they gave me an interesting profession I wouldn’t care what else they tagged onto it all.

yes, so they can cancel it 6 months later telling people they’ve been ripped off, after getting told that the expansion sucked and half-baked, they’ll respond that achievement is content and 4maps if enough.

Beldin.5498:

Crise.9401:

Something that could potentially see re-use, like I don’t know, maybe game mechanics, monster AI, animation rigs etc.

Oh yeah .. i have a vision of new “challenging” content with new mechanics,
instead of perma-stunlock and pushing you to the ground, mobs now learn
to play Badminton with players. Flying through the air until your dead each
time you meet a mob .. wouldn’t that be great challenging fun ?

They’re already in the game — they’re called gravelings and are in the first dungeon.