Guild Wars 2

Really Anet? Then why put the current bloodstone creature event on a 3 hour rotation? I’m still waiting to get Moa and it never seems to be on rotation when I’m free. I’ve joined squads on the hunt for these creatures and guess what? We sit and wait for mobs to spawn trying to get the main legendary’s to pop. It reminds me of the earliest MMO’s where people would camp a boss.

Please avoid doing this crap in future. It’s an insane waste of everyones time.

In order to spawn a bloodstone creature, lets say moa for example, when the moa is on rotation it wont just spawn by itself, you have to kill regular moa and after some kills one of the moas transforms into bloodstone moa. So if you just sit and wait for it to spawn, well I have bad news for you son ^^

Plazar.8946:

In order to spawn a bloodstone creature, lets say moa for example, when the moa is on rotation it wont just spawn by itself, you have to kill regular moa and after some kills one of the moas transforms into bloodstone moa. So if you just sit and wait for it to spawn, well I have bad news for you son ^^

Yeah I have news for you “son”. Reread the original post. I said we wait for MOBS to spawn that we kill to get the legendary to pop….

The point is, the entire thing is on a pointless timer and it is “waiting around to have fun”

Comprendez?

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Mitch.4781:

Plazar.8946:

In order to spawn a bloodstone creature, lets say moa for example, when the moa is on rotation it wont just spawn by itself, you have to kill regular moa and after some kills one of the moas transforms into bloodstone moa. So if you just sit and wait for it to spawn, well I have bad news for you son ^^

Yeah I have news for you “son”. Reread the original post. I said we wait for MOBS to spawn that we kill to get the legendary to pop….

The point is, the entire thing is on a pointless timer and it is “waiting around to have fun”

Comprendez?

Sorry my bad are you on the right spot when you do this? ^^ cuz when I was doing that I got all 5 of the creatures in a single rotation and max 5 mins to get each to spawn

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

In the OP you dident say you were killing the creatures to get it to spawn mate.

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

World bosses are on rotation too. So are most meta events. You can’t plan when a temple in Orr is open. Is that better?

Linken.6345:

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

In the OP you dident say you were killing the creatures to get it to spawn mate.

I said that “We sit and wait for mobs to spawn trying to get the main legendary’s to pop”. I thought it was just common sense that people would know we would be killing the mobs, seeing as I specified I only had ONE boss left to kill……. But guess not…

Vayne.8563:

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

World bosses are on rotation too. So are most meta events. You can’t plan when a temple in Orr is open. Is that better?

This is a minor content patch not a meta event. Anet said “no more waiting around to have fun” – result = waiting around for “fun”.

Is that better?

Mitch.4781:

Vayne.8563:

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

World bosses are on rotation too. So are most meta events. You can’t plan when a temple in Orr is open. Is that better?

This is a minor content patch not a meta event. Anet said “no more waiting around to have fun” – result = waiting around for “fun”.

Is that better?

When did Anet say no more waiting around to have fun? 6 years ago in the manifesto? Did they say it six months ago?

And you know, there is no more waiting around to have fun, because there are always things to do. If you want to do that think that you have to stand there instead of gathering, and doing local events, you can do that.

But the fact is you’re right. This is a minor event. It’s not a requirement to play the game. It only gives you achievement points. It’s not something you have to do anyway. It doesn’t lock you out of anything.

As with all achievements, some take longer, some are harder, some are just grind because that’s the nature of achievements. No one makes you get shield master, but you can get it if you want it bad enough.

No one is forcing you to do any event.

I honestly do believe these events could have been more “friendly” to players, but I’m not sure why it’s such a big deal that they aren’t.

Of course, since I got the entire achievement the first day with my guild, I’m not waiting around at all anymore.

As others have pointed out you are allowed to do other things while waiting for it to be active. In regards to “no more waiting to have fun” you have taken that senteance out of contex. Whenever a-net have said that they, have refered to waiting for a specific class to do dungeons and similar stuff NOT events

Glox.5942:

As others have pointed out you are allowed to do other things while waiting for it to be active. In regards to “no more waiting to have fun” you have taken that senteance out of contex. Whenever a-net have said that they, have refered to waiting for a specific class to do dungeons and similar stuff NOT events

Mike O’Brien 5 months ago:

“The April update is about reducing grind, clearing away some tedium, getting quickly to the fun, and improving rewards. We’ve always said that Guild Wars should be about having fun rather than preparing to have fun, and this will be a back-to-our-roots kind of update”

Most of the more interesting skins in the game are gated behind something. You have to work for a few days to get the achievement done? I feel so bad for you.

I’m sorry, but what’s the problem here? Spinal Blade back pieces are gated behind piles and piles of watchwork scraps. Where is the outrage at the length of time it takes to acquire those? They’re just a skin so they would be considered “minor content” as well, but they take a lot of work/time to get.

You’ve spent maybe a week on this endeavor and by your own admission are only one mob kill away from completing it. That’s great, you got that done pretty fast, and it’s clear that this skin is something you’re really working toward. Keep it up, you’re almost done, and soon you can direct your outrage toward something more meaningful.

Also,

As others have pointed out you are allowed to do other things while waiting for it to be active.

Lots of nodes to gather while you wait or events to farm for karma.

Another case of taking a generality and trying to apply it to a specific case as the phrase refers to all the activities or class of activities in the game. You don’t have to wait around (for long) to do a world boss since there is a world boss event every 15 minutes. However if all you want to do is Teq, then you might have to wait 4 hours.

In the case of the bloodstone creatures, 2 1/2 out of every 3 hours, 5 creatures can be triggered across 16 zones. But if all you want to do is shark, well then like Teq you will have to wait, so go one of the other activities in the game until it’s time.

I understand the frustration of the OP
Iv seen so many groups just sit and wait for hours
Iv waited for devourer for hours cuz i missed one when i went to poop
so i had to wait for the entire rotation again

It could of been a fun event but it is really frustrating to wait for hours !

Behellagh.1468:

Another case of taking a generality and trying to apply it to a specific case as the phrase refers to all the activities or class of activities in the game. .

Yet in your opinion, it shouldn’t apply here?? LOL

Riggggghhhhhhhhht

Mitch.4781:

Vayne.8563:

Mitch.4781:

Vayne.8563:

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

World bosses are on rotation too. So are most meta events. You can’t plan when a temple in Orr is open. Is that better?

This is a minor content patch not a meta event. Anet said “no more waiting around to have fun” – result = waiting around for “fun”.

Is that better?

When did Anet say no more waiting around to have fun? 6 years ago in the manifesto? Did they say it six months ago?

And you know, there is no more waiting around to have fun, because there are always things to do. If you want to do that think that you have to stand there instead of gathering, and doing local events, you can do that.

But the fact is you’re right. This is a minor event. It’s not a requirement to play the game. It only gives you achievement points. It’s not something you have to do anyway. It doesn’t lock you out of anything.

As with all achievements, some take longer, some are harder, some are just grind because that’s the nature of achievements. No one makes you get shield master, but you can get it if you want it bad enough.

No one is forcing you to do any event.

I honestly do believe these events could have been more “friendly” to players, but I’m not sure why it’s such a big deal that they aren’t.

Of course, since I got the entire achievement the first day with my guild, I’m not waiting around at all anymore.

Actually Mike O’Brien said it 5 months ago. Seeing as you worship the Altar of Anet , I’m surprised you don’t remember; but blind devotion often misty’s the waters somewhat. It’s also irrelevant when it was said. You’re advocating that it is actually ok NOW to wait around to have fun? That’s an interesting logic.

And no, it doesn’t give you just AP, you get the mask too which is rather the point. Of course no one is forcing us to do anything but that’s such a bogus defence of a poorly implemented event. If everyone had that attitude we wouldn’t be playing the game at all! The fact is, it IS in the game with a decent reward so why put a pointless timegate around it that just annoys people? If you’re going to do something, why not make it fun instead of frustrating? It’s the same with the snipers in Bloodstone that hit you while you’re in mid flight and you can plummet to your death. Just what was the point of that? All it does is irritate the player base.

But your last line kinda sums it up. You got it first day with your guild so you can’t see or don’t care how the event would pan out for people that didn’t. You know as well as I do, if you don’t get the done the first week or two, it’s hard to get people to help you. Who does the legendary bandits now? It’s ironic anyways, because you still had to adhere to the same timer as everyone else so you did indeed have to wait lol.

No, I’m saying you don’t have to wait around to have fun still, but you may have to wait around to get certain specific achievements. Not sure why it’s so hard for people to realize that if you insist on getting absolutely everything in a game, some things aren’t going to be to your taste. Some things may require grinding. Some things may require waiting.

But what can’t you do, exactly by not waiting around? What areas of the game are locked off from you.

The answer is nothing.

Vayne.8563:

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

World bosses are on rotation too. So are most meta events. You can’t plan when a temple in Orr is open. Is that better?

The difference here tho is we do not know how long these events will be in the game. Everything else you have offered up here are going to be there pretty much permanently.

While 3 hours is not exactly the longest time to wait it can still pose some problems to some people obviously. I don’t know why they didn’t just have them run on 2 different cycles and run them every 2 hours. At the moment if you just miss one you have to wait 2.5 hours at most if it was the moa or devourer for example. They could have instead gone:

Option 1:

Moa/Devourer – 1 hour window, Wyvern – 1 hour window – repeat.

Option 2: (runs/starts at the exact same time as option 1)

Wyvern – 1 hour window, Arctodus/Shark – 1 hour window – repeat

This way it could have given people some more versatility and options with the system and at most have you waiting only an hour or so in the worst case scenario.

Seems more like we are going more and more into “waiting”. Either get used to it or …

While I’m not sure about the cooldowns (Possibly can’t run too many at the same time perhaps) I never had to wait and stand around to do these. More often than not these just spawn in my face (happened multiple times now), if not just a bit away while I’m playing.

I just regularly checked the scanner, saw which was has been killed and which one wasn’t and then proceeded to kill said type until it spawned, and doing some events on the side as they showed up.

1. I’m not afk thus can pay attention (I’ve seen players claiming it was the greatest of ideas to stand and wait rather than actually doing some events around the map which then promptly went afk and missed the event.)
2. I’m not doing nothing, getting some sort of income through events, drops, chests, harvesting.
3. NPCs stop whining about random creature X is attacking their straw hut.

So yeah, you can choose to stand around and wait, but you definitely don’t need to wait to have fun. Which is still true to this day.

Mitch.4781:

Mike O’Brien 5 months ago:

“The April update is about reducing grind, clearing away some tedium, getting quickly to the fun, and improving rewards. We’ve always said that Guild Wars should be about having fun rather than preparing to have fun, and this will be a back-to-our-roots kind of update”

That quote don’t say anything about “waiting to have fun”. Only that they want players to get to the fun faster.

But if your definition of fun are to kill one moa in one specific event…what will you do for fun once you kill that moa ?
But remember if you find something else to be fun after the kill, why did it only become fun after you killed the moa, why was that not fun while you where waiting for the moa ?

3 hours is a very long cooldown for a mob. And some people have a small window of game time due to RL stuff. I don’t specifically have a problem getting the mobs, but I can see how other people would.

This will be a blast of unwanted honesty to some people: if you can’t get to a mob that’s scheduled on a 3 hour cooldown … that’s too bad. That’s not me being glib either; that’s recognizing that there not everyone can do every single activity in an MMO. These games aren’t designed to ensure appeal and win for everyone playing. The best they can do is ensure access; it’s up to YOU to be there at the keyboard when it happens. Frankly, I think a 3 hour CD is plenty fine for something you are basically going to do once for an achievement.

It’s getting really old to see most complaints caused by people thinking the game is designed around them. It’s not.

Paulytnz.7619:

Vayne.8563:

Mitch.4781:

Obtena.7952:

Are you camping the mobs in the right place … Moa’s are not exactly hard to find or in short supply.

Yes. I’m just saying that when the Moa comes on ROTATION I have either not been online or the middle of something else. The point is, it’s an unnecessary drawn out timer rotation for no other reason than to flesh out a very minor event..cos “content”

World bosses are on rotation too. So are most meta events. You can’t plan when a temple in Orr is open. Is that better?

The difference here tho is we do not know how long these events will be in the game. Everything else you have offered up here are going to be there pretty much permanently.

While 3 hours is not exactly the longest time to wait it can still pose some problems to some people obviously. I don’t know why they didn’t just have them run on 2 different cycles and run them every 2 hours. At the moment if you just miss one you have to wait 2.5 hours at most if it was the moa or devourer for example. They could have instead gone:

Option 1:

Moa/Devourer – 1 hour window, Wyvern – 1 hour window – repeat.

Option 2: (runs/starts at the exact same time as option 1)

Wyvern – 1 hour window, Arctodus/Shark – 1 hour window – repeat

This way it could have given people some more versatility and options with the system and at most have you waiting only an hour or so in the worst case scenario.

I don’t disagree with the rotation thing, it could have been handled differently. All I’m saying is, what difference, really, does it make if people don’t finish this achievement.

There are people who have to get every achievement and those people are absolutely going to wait the three hours (and frankly I didn’t have to wait, because I figured out how to use the tool and just keep checking it).

But, in reality, the few achievement points you get from this will make a difference to what percentage of the playerbase? I mean what’s the actual reward?

25 achievement points for all of it and a blood stone visage skin that changes the color of your eyes, plus 10 blood rubies. It’s likely not worth hours of waiting for most people anyway. I mean they’re hidden achievements in the first place, so that means that a lot of people probably don’t know about them at all.

The thing is, the game needs to balance stuff for really long term players to do that have nothing left to do, and people who are just casual and don’t care about achievement points or getting every skin (which in my opinion is most players).

This event takes some time, but you don’t have to wait three hours to get one. If you want to wait, you’re doing it because you want to get one NOW. This moment. If you take your time, you’ll get them anyway, if you just keep checking your tracker when you’re free, or use one of the timer sites, like gw2timer.com where they’re listed. It’s not a perfect listing btw, but it gives you an indication of when those creatures can appear, which will save you a lot of time.

As always how long you have to wait depends on how aware you are of how the event works. Being in a helpful guild doesn’t hurt either, since people in the guild call out when these things are up, which means a lot less waiting.

In the end, this I have to wait three hours thing isn’t really the case. It’s only the case for people trying to make their argument by stating the worst case scenario.