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Posted by: Amorette.5780

Amorette.5780

So, like many others, I’ve just found out the hard way that you can’t use two of the same ascended pieces on one character.
I may not be able to get my laurels back, guess I’m just going to have to make another build to fit it in somewhere, but I’m sure future players would greatly appreciate a tooltip similar to the ones on sigils that tells you they do not stack.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Contact support and see if they’ll send you the other trinket with the same stats but a different offensive/defensive slot. They’ve done so in the past.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Qugi.2653

Qugi.2653

Make support ticket link top of page. Support help people with this in past maybe let you pick different one.

;)

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Posted by: LucianDK.8615

LucianDK.8615

What are you on about? I dual wield two ascended swords with no issue.

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Posted by: Deedrick.4372

Deedrick.4372

If you notice when you mouse over them, there is a "unique" identifier on ascended trinkets and rings. There is also at least 2 of every stat when purchasing to give offensive/defensive slots.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

What are you on about? I dual wield two ascended swords with no issue.

I would say this is about rings and accessories where if you want the same stats you have to have at least 1 offence and 1 defence and can’t have both offence for example.

If support can not help you there is always the upside that they are account bound so an alt if you have one or a future alt could still benefit from this mistake.

Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?

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Posted by: HazyDaisy.4107

HazyDaisy.4107

I would’ve thought they fixed the decriptions by now to stateyou can’t do this. Sorry for your hard lesson, having been there doing the same thing I understand the frustration and painful loss of the laurels. If no refund or exchange is possible, on the plus side, you have a starter piece for an alt.

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Posted by: Roundabout.1752

Roundabout.1752

If it’s a ring infuse and use it

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

Redenaz.8631

You’re not the first with this problem, and you won’t be the last, either. I know many veteran players are aware of it by now, but it stinks to waste that many laurels if you aren’t aware of it. Hopefully support can help you out!

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Posted by: FlashAhAhh.4307

FlashAhAhh.4307

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

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Posted by: DGraves.3720

DGraves.3720

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

My thoughts exactly.

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Posted by: Ellieanna.5027

Ellieanna.5027

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

Isn’t the word UNIQUE a warning?

I’m a Moose, a ginger moose even.

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Posted by: Qugi.2653

Qugi.2653

Isn’t the word UNIQUE a warning?

Well as I see from many thread about this over years it is not always. Some people confuse by this. In some game unique mean different thing. Also in many of those thread people argue what unique mean. So it seem clear there is confusion or we would not see thread like this so often. I agree short message say some thing like, “Can only equip one time on character” would help. As now they probably get support ticket often about this from what I read on forum. A extra line to make more clear would help avoid this.

;)

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Posted by: Deedrick.4372

Deedrick.4372

Unique did it for me. To be honest, a unique equip wouldn’t kill them for the extra characters.

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Posted by: Amorette.5780

Amorette.5780

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

Isn’t the word UNIQUE a warning?

As Qugi said, it’s not really much of one. Sigils, for example, read “Sigils do not stack with any tier of the same sigil type” and in red text, which leaves very little confusion.
The word ‘unique’ on ascended, however, is just another white/light grey word blending in with the others.

Thanks for all the comments guys, I sent in a ticket about 5 hours ago; no reply yet but hopefully it can be exchanged otherwise it’ll sit in my bank for a long while.

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Posted by: FlashAhAhh.4307

FlashAhAhh.4307

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

Isn’t the word UNIQUE a warning?

Nope – It’s a word. “WARNING: You can only equip one of each unique item” that’s a warning.

And yeah the “Unique” was enough for me but then have played MMO’s since the very beginning so of course I twigged and I also Wiki everything before I do it.

But we want GW2 to be as noob friendly as possible and it’s fair enough to have a warning for this.

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

Redenaz.8631

“Unique” is a terrible signal, not just because it’s never explained in game, but because it shows up on many items (back pieces, amulets, and trophies that aren’t even equipment) where its function is inapplicable.

I first saw it on Mad Memoires, which is a backpiece that’s loaded with flavor text, so I originally figured it didn’t mean anything functional at all. I never had a problem with ascended rings, because I use the forum and use the Wiki a ton, but I wouldn’t have assumed unique meant anything special for rings, after seeing back items and trinkets with the same keyword.

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Posted by: Silvatar.5379

Silvatar.5379

@OP

Also, since no one else has mentioned it, I would strongly suggest that you consider purchasing your ascended rings with pristine fractal relics and your ascended accessories with guild commendations, and save your precious laurels for things that can not be purchased with another currency.

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Posted by: Chiccotot.7296

Chiccotot.7296

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

Isn’t the word UNIQUE a warning?

Too vague a meaning. Unique can mean a lot of things.

WARNING: You can only equip one Unique Item of its type.

^That’s a warning. Self explanatory and not ambiguous.

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Posted by: Wildkitten.3872

Wildkitten.3872

They should put a warning in for this. That being said in ANY MMO you should always read up on your gear path BEFORE buying anything.

Isn’t the word UNIQUE a warning?

Too vague a meaning. Unique can mean a lot of things.

WARNING: You can only equip one Unique Item of its type.

^That’s a warning. Self explanatory and not ambiguous.

This is why there are warnings on gas pumps about gas being harmful or fatal if swallowed because there is a lack of stopping and thinking.

The word “Unique” is most certainly not ambiguous. GW2 isn’t even the first game to offer Unique items. This is a very common type of thing in games.

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

Unique is a useless, non-explanatory word. It’s also wrong. That thing the OP has, it’s not unique. He has 2.

And other games? Really? When someone has a problem with their nice and shiny brand-new iPhone, do you refer them to the manual of a 1996 Nokia that they might not even have owned?

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Posted by: Wildkitten.3872

Wildkitten.3872

Unique is a useless, non-explanatory word. It’s also wrong. That thing the OP has, it’s not unique. He has 2.

And other games? Really? When someone has a problem with their nice and shiny brand-new iPhone, do you refer them to the manual of a 1996 Nokia that they might not even have owned?

Your analogy makes no sense. A more proper analogy between an iPhone and a old Nokia candy bar phone would be someone having problems with the dial pad because that’s something nearly every phone since touch tone phones were invented has in common. Even in the age of touch screens the dial pad is the same.

And no it is not wrong. Unique has never meant in any game where an item is Account Bound more than one can not be owned. It’s always about equipping. You may as well be saying the term Account Bound is meaningless.

It’s sad that every word has to be defined and every word in the definition has to be defined as well.

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

The analogy makes sense. You expect people to find the functionality of an unexplained term in another game. That’s unreasonable. What about the people who never played a similar game before?

This is an issue that keeps popping up, again and again. That’s not because people are stupid, that’s because plenty of people are running into the concept for the first time, ever. Moreover, I’ve played games that had the “unique” label on items, yet you could equip multiples, so there’s not even a consensus among prior games as to the meaning of “unique”.

What’s sad is that people settle for rubbish like this and find it necessary to “blame the victim”.

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Posted by: Aidan Savage.2078

Aidan Savage.2078

Considering the OP didnt stop and think “i should ask and/or find out why this has a ‘unique’ tag on it,” and probably blindly purchased a duplicate, it IS fair to settle the blame on them. Necessary? Not all the time, but definitely still fair.

Should there be a tip notice when you first obtain a unique trinket? Yes. Should there be descriptions on items in such simple terms that an amoeba can understand it? No. Games, let alone mmo games, should not be spoonfeeding players to the level they’re equivalent to a computer waiting for input. Players should be required to actually think like a sentient creature.

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Posted by: Amorette.5780

Amorette.5780

Considering the OP didnt stop and think “i should ask and/or find out why this has a ‘unique’ tag on it,” and probably blindly purchased a duplicate, it IS fair to settle the blame on them. Necessary? Not all the time, but definitely still fair.

Should there be a tip notice when you first obtain a unique trinket? Yes. Should there be descriptions on items in such simple terms that an amoeba can understand it? No. Games, let alone mmo games, should not be spoonfeeding players to the level they’re equivalent to a computer waiting for input. Players should be required to actually think like a sentient creature.

I wouldn’t even have bothered to post if the word ‘unique’ was in red, like it is elsewhere in the game. It’s really not much to ask for consistency.

I had never played another MMO before GW2. Most other genres of games do not require extensive googling prior to enjoying the game. The fact that one of the game’s main advertised features is that they’re so different from other MMO’s and that they pride themselves on the amount of new players they do have, should indicate a generally newbie-safe environment.
Then again, the game also prides itself on the kindness of the community, and, well….

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Posted by: Bomber.3872

Bomber.3872

Yes it is a big mistake from anet to not show us an ingame text that you can’t usw two times the same ring!

Another stupid not anywhere explained issue with these: You can’t attune the former ‘magic find’ rings.
Thats total —-—- and the only reason why you can’t attune these is because anet forgot them and doesn’t read bugreports…

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Posted by: FlashAhAhh.4307

FlashAhAhh.4307

Players should be required to actually think like a sentient creature.

Yeah they should, that way it wouldn’t be necessary to explain to you that for an MMO newbie (the people we need to keep this game alive) a single word “unique” with absolutely nothing else drawing attention to it is going to cause problems and is an inadequate warning.

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Posted by: DGraves.3720

DGraves.3720

I’m surprised this is still going on.

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Posted by: Rauderi.8706

Rauderi.8706

Unique did it for me. To be honest, a unique equip wouldn’t kill them for the extra characters.

I understood it as well, but only because of prior MMO experience. WoW is also more specific(ish) with the term “Unique-Equipped” instead of just “Unique.”

We as players run into it for the first time at the Ascended trinket/ring tier, so I can understand the confusion.

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

DoctorDing.5890

I agree that “unique” is a bit vague. I would have probably made the same error as the OP if I had not seen a previous thread about it. A slight rewording could make it a whole lot clearer.

I’m not sure why they added this restriction anyway, given that there seem to be two rings for each stat combo, the only difference being the type of infusion slot that they have. It feels like a pointlessly daft restriction to me.

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

And talking about pointless… How about those “unique” amulets?

I’m sure glad they prevented people from equiping 2 identical ones.

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

Redenaz.8631

If the first time I see the word “unique” is on an item that only has one slot (back pieces) or can’t be equipped at all (trophies,) it doesn’t make any sense to assume the word has any special meaning, much less that it means you can only equip one of the item at a time. Even if you’ve seen that in other games before, it’s not used consistently in this game.

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Posted by: Deedrick.4372

Deedrick.4372

@OP

Also, since no one else has mentioned it, I would strongly suggest that you consider purchasing your ascended rings with pristine fractal relics and your ascended accessories with guild commendations, and save your precious laurels for things that can not be purchased with another currency.

Assuming they like or are willing to do fractals.

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Posted by: Aidan Savage.2078

Aidan Savage.2078

Players should be required to actually think like a sentient creature.

Yeah they should, that way it wouldn’t be necessary to explain to you that for an MMO newbie (the people we need to keep this game alive) a single word “unique” with absolutely nothing else drawing attention to it is going to cause problems and is an inadequate warning.

Which is why I’m not against them adding one of those “tutorial” popup thingies, like you’d get when you unlocked a new feature/ability. Noticeable enough for players who JUST came across it, and something that isnt as obstructive as modifying the text for every single accessory in the game. You’re also forgetting human nature. Players are seriously more likely to STILL ignore additional text even if it gets added ingame. On the other hand, a screen-level notice is more likely to get their attention.