Guild Wars 2

Generally thinking I feel the PS rewards are much better, with one issue.

A lot of us in the guild help each other or keep each other company through our personal stories. We play MMOs to play together.

Now, if I’m helping someone on a story or several in a row, just to hang out, there’s zero reward at all. No drops no nothing.

There should be some reward, even a small one, for people helping people through personal stories that aren’t theirs.

Aside from being told that they removed loot from the PS to stop linen farming, it looks like they are trying to divide the community.

I can just see it in about 6 months. Players charging to help others with their PS just so they earn something for their time. It is bad enough that players sell the final dungeon and ANet won’t do anything about it. It is like they are encouraging it.

Most PS steps aren’t that hard, and anyone in a guild wouldn’t be charged. I don’t see that as a problem. But yes, I do think it’s always good to encourage people to help each other out.

Gotta agree with Vayne on this.

Don’t make playing with or helping others less rewarding.

I honestly think they should take it back to the way it was originally going to be, with players that are helping earning Karma/Experience.

I can’t remember been a while since I helped someone with a personal story step. Do you at least get experience from helping someone do a personal story step.

I know that drops from mobs were removed and all rewards were moved to the completion. I can even understand them removing them to prevent excessive farming.

It would be nice however if the player helping the individual complete the personal story gets the same reward that the individual who does the personal story themselves. With possibly the exception of the personal story rewards that are Gem Store Items.

I don’t think you get anything anymore. No experience, no gold, no karma and no drops. No chest or loot.

I think it should be looked at.

We get Karma for helping peoples PS. =) May not be waht you are looking for. But I was helping a new friend of mine and I get a good chunk of karma. Akin to how you get for doing a Fractal lower leveled than your Personal Reward Level.

While I do agree with you Vayne, you know they are always looking to give less loot rather than more, so I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

Ravion Hawk.4736:

It is bad enough that players sell the final dungeon and ANet won’t do anything about it. It is like they are encouraging it.

Stop whining about dungeon selling and worry about what you are doing rather than what others are doing. You know you can make a group and complete any dungeon that you want with 4 random strangers or friends right? Don’t whine because the people who are good at the game and can solo paths won’t carry you through dungeon runs.

For clarification: I don’t sell paths and never have.

If your there to help out your fellow guild member, and to spend time with them, then being rewarded for your “help” shouldn’t even be on your list of expectations, besides it’s their Personal Story not yours, and the reward should be knowing that you helped out someone in need.

Odokuro.5049:

If your there to help out your fellow guild member, and to spend time with them, then being rewarded for your “help” shouldn’t even be on your list of expectations, besides it’s their Personal Story not yours, and the reward should be knowing that you helped out someone in need.

I always help out. But I also know for a fact, many others won’t without some kind of reward. It doesn’t have to be equal. But people shouldn’t be discouraged for it.

In a game where gold isn’t all that easy to come by, helping someone for a couple of hours to most people means not taking care of their own business.

@cedo, I didn’t notice karma gain because I wasn’t looking for it, but cool if it was. I can always use more karma.

Vayne.8563:

Odokuro.5049:

If your there to help out your fellow guild member, and to spend time with them, then being rewarded for your “help” shouldn’t even be on your list of expectations, besides it’s their Personal Story not yours, and the reward should be knowing that you helped out someone in need.

I always help out. But I also know for a fact, many others won’t without some kind of reward. It doesn’t have to be equal. But people shouldn’t be discouraged for it.

In a game where gold isn’t all that easy to come by, helping someone for a couple of hours to most people means not taking care of their own business.

@cedo, I didn’t notice karma gain because I wasn’t looking for it, but cool if it was. I can always use more karma.

I’m happy for your possible Karma gain, Vayne….but, I really don’t have anything to do with doling out Karma, nor do I know if one earns it by being a Good Samaritan or not. Lol. Nice of you to think of me, though! =)

Vayne.8563:

Generally thinking I feel the PS rewards are much better, with one issue.

A lot of us in the guild help each other or keep each other company through our personal stories. We play MMOs to play together.

Now, if I’m helping someone on a story or several in a row, just to hang out, there’s zero reward at all. No drops no nothing.

There should be some reward, even a small one, for people helping people through personal stories that aren’t theirs.

yes, this was always a flaw, that has been magnified with the lack of drops. They say people dont do it much, but they made it impossible to repeat, hard to team up with people, (and they get credit)
and now they remove drops.

Ravion Hawk.4736:

Aside from being told that they removed loot from the PS to stop linen farming, it looks like they are trying to divide the community.

I can just see it in about 6 months. Players charging to help others with their PS just so they earn something for their time. It is bad enough that players sell the final dungeon and ANet won’t do anything about it. It is like they are encouraging it.

this is stupid, why is it all good for me to go to farm monsters in a level 40-50 zone, but doing the exact same thing inside a personal story instance is something to be patched? Time is spent killing mobs, why is the same time in a personal story instance worth less than the time outside?

my guess is its probably related to bots, but eliminating fun to beat bots is not a good answer to the problem. This extends to living story as well, why should we repeat content with less rewards than joining a random train? Why help players with these new special stories?

Odokuro.5049:

If your there to help out your fellow guild member, and to spend time with them, then being rewarded for your “help” shouldn’t even be on your list of expectations, besides it’s their Personal Story not yours, and the reward should be knowing that you helped out someone in need.

why is it good design that helping people should be less rewarding than doing the exact same type of content in the open world? when i help a friend map complete dredgehaunt or level up, i get drops, but for personal story you should recieve nothing?
illogical.
helping people has no logical reason to give you less in one area than another