Guild Wars 2

The more I hear the less I care.

The people complaining and assaulting Arenanet about Ascended gear was bad enough to deal with here on the forums, now YouTube videos are popping up in my face with people voicing their opinions there.

As if I hadn’t heard enough about this, I decided to bite and give a listen to some guys speech about his stance against Ascended gear.

Know what I heard? I’ll sum it up like this. He spent countless hours grinding out gear in GW1, and only for fashion since the only difference was the looks, but he’s against grinding the ascended gear for a stat increase.

How does this make sense? It’s ok to grind out trivial things to him like the look of the armor, titles and emotes to unlock in games but not for a stat increase? Sounds incredibly selfish to me.

Many players want to see difference in performance through new gear, number crunchers I like to call them and to them looks alone are not as interesting to put the effort into.

Would they blast Arenanet for putting gear in the game that was obtainable through a grind but didn’t increase stats. Of course not! So why complain Arenanet is giving them what they want?

Ascended Gear is not going to hurt the game, it’s the players mindset and many of you have decided the shrivel of increase in stats in this new gear is the most terrible thing ever and assumed way beyond what the gear actually means in the game.

It’s not a gear treadmill, not even close. Not having Ascended gear will not hurt you in the games content. It will not segregate the population of haves and have nots. Even IF people discriminate against players only wearing Exotics, who gives a kitten? If you have a Guild that isn’t full of elitest pigs, then it’s no concern whatsoever. You’ll still get content done with people that are skipping out of Ascended and only going with Exotics.

If you don’t want to play for the Ascended gear, don’t. You will not lose out terribly. The game is still designed to be playable from an Exotic gear stance, so stick with that and go for Legendary if you want instead.

Every MMORPG has a grind of some form or another. Even Guild Wars 1. The levels themselves from 1-80 in GW2 are a form of grind as well. So is crafting. And PVP armor. And WvW armor. The grind has always existed. What makes it a fun grind or not is not for you to decide for others.

So let the number crunchers grind out Ascended gear. You have no right to complain and I have no sympathy for you and your hypocrisy.

[Edit]

Opinions are nice bro.
Me and my boyfriend spent months experimenting with builds. He always tries to think of ways to make a character OP, I’m thinking about how to make the character interesting for me. There’s millions of different builds you can go for and make your class far from weak. If you don’t feel like experimenting, your problem bro.
Content is plenty and fun and while I wish I could see more maps for PvP, PvP is still awesome, especially when you master your build and pawn people.

[Edit: Removed the quote of a removed posting]

Draven.7210:

Know what I heard? I’ll sum it up like this. He spent countless hours grinding out gear in GW1, and only for fashion since the only difference was the looks, but he’s against grinding the ascended gear for a stat increase.

How does this make sense? It’s ok to grind out trivial things to him like the look of the armor, titles and emotes to unlock in games but not for a stat increase? Sounds incredibly selfish to me.

Let’s take the following situation.

In GW1, I want an obsidian armour. That will take 105 ectos and 105 shards. I am a casual player and can only play 30 minutes each day. In time I can get either 1 ecto or 2 shards (either as drop or buying with the gold I get by playing).

So, it will take me 150+ days to get my materials together (as I also will need the rest of the materials and money, and if I keep at it continually). But it doesn’t matter if it takes me half a year, or two years, because I know, once I have the materials together, I will have an armour that will still be the max available, forever.

Now, in GW2, I want that expensive exotic armour. It has the highest stats, which is what I want. It will take me (with my casual play time) also 150+ days. But, in this case, will the armour still be the max when I finally have the materials together to get it? The way it is now, the answer will be “No”. I will have to start all over again to get the new max and am “forced” to farm again for the (new) required materials.

And that is something most people are worried about, when they’re talking about increasing the stats. The stuff you’ve been working on for so long will be outdated at some point. And, at least for me, that isn’t a comforting thought.

I rather find it selfish if somebody demand a stat increase because he want something to grind for…

Draven.7210:

Know what I heard? I’ll sum it up like this. He spent countless hours grinding out gear in GW1, and only for fashion since the only difference was the looks, but he’s against grinding the ascended gear for a stat increase.

How does this make sense? It’s ok to grind out trivial things to him like the look of the armor, titles and emotes to unlock in games but not for a stat increase? Sounds incredibly selfish to me.

I’ve stopped reading here.
You must be one of the most egoistic, self-centered people I’ve had the dubious pleasure to read on these forums and it’s an achievement.
Your complete lack of ability to look at things from any perspective other than your own is astounding, so I have no sympathy for you, either.
I hope your PC crashes in perpetual playlist of all GW2 ascended-gear-complains videos.

Mirta.5029:

Opinions are nice bro.
Me and my boyfriend spent months experimenting with builds. He always tries to think of ways to make a character OP, I’m thinking about how to make the character interesting for me. There’s millions of different builds you can go for and make your class far from weak. If you don’t feel like experimenting, your problem bro.
Content is plenty and fun and while I wish I could see more maps for PvP, PvP is still awesome, especially when you master your build and pawn people.

Hes right, the game has become a lot weaker than potentially has in it. Also Anet focuses heavily on creating new content instead of fixing existing ones, the diff is so high that the game will never be ~90% fixed before an expension and then the whole thing will start again…

“You can’t always get what you want….

But if you try sometimes,

You’ll find,

You get what you need"

-Mick J

cherrie.8907:

Draven.7210:

Know what I heard? I’ll sum it up like this. He spent countless hours grinding out gear in GW1, and only for fashion since the only difference was the looks, but he’s against grinding the ascended gear for a stat increase.

How does this make sense? It’s ok to grind out trivial things to him like the look of the armor, titles and emotes to unlock in games but not for a stat increase? Sounds incredibly selfish to me.

I’ve stopped reading here.
You must be one of the most egoistic, self-centered people I’ve had the dubious pleasure to read on these forums and it’s an achievement.

Really? Because you know me I guess from reading this? I see it only from my perspective alone? Wrong! I see it from all sides including the people who I call number crunchers and by that, you should understand I’m not one of them. I’m neither for nor against the new gear. It makes no difference to me. My exotics, which I obtained rather easily suit me just fine and I can’t relate to anyone complaining about how hard it was to get exotics.

Furthermore, it’s attitudes like yours that make it hard for many of us neutral on the subject to give a kitten about how you feel about Ascended gear.

masztipapa.7519:

Mirta.5029:

Gohlar.3671:

I don’t care about the new gear. GW2 still stinks. Weak classes, weak content, weak pvp.

Game is a let down on every front.

Opinions are nice bro.
Me and my boyfriend spent months experimenting with builds. He always tries to think of ways to make a character OP, I’m thinking about how to make the character interesting for me. There’s millions of different builds you can go for and make your class far from weak. If you don’t feel like experimenting, your problem bro.
Content is plenty and fun and while I wish I could see more maps for PvP, PvP is still awesome, especially when you master your build and pawn people.

Hes right, the game has become a lot weaker than potentially has in it. Also Anet focuses heavily on creating new content instead of fixing existing ones, the diff is so high that the game will never be ~90% fixed before an expension and then the whole thing will start again…

Just because they are keeping the interests of players looking for new content doesn’t mean they are not working to fix existing issues. Just because they’re not putting it as high a priority as you would like it, doesn’t mean they’re not going to do it.

masztipapa.7519:

Mirta.5029:

Gohlar.3671:

I don’t care about the new gear. GW2 still stinks. Weak classes, weak content, weak pvp.

Game is a let down on every front.

Opinions are nice bro.
Me and my boyfriend spent months experimenting with builds. He always tries to think of ways to make a character OP, I’m thinking about how to make the character interesting for me. There’s millions of different builds you can go for and make your class far from weak. If you don’t feel like experimenting, your problem bro.
Content is plenty and fun and while I wish I could see more maps for PvP, PvP is still awesome, especially when you master your build and pawn people.

Hes right, the game has become a lot weaker than potentially has in it. Also Anet focuses heavily on creating new content instead of fixing existing ones, the diff is so high that the game will never be ~90% fixed before an expension and then the whole thing will start again…

and the game has been launched 3 months ago! You know when WoW fixed their druids and their abilities not reaching, even though the fix is just to drag the reach box to the right place and anyone owning the files can do it? Never.

Draven.7210:

doesn’t mean they are not working to fix existing issues.

Yes and no. They may be able to tone down the grind or somehow find a solution to the issue of FotM sucking the life out of other areas of the game. One of the fundamental issues they said they won’t fix, and even worsen, or improve upon if you’re a dedicated player. Whatever compromise they try and pull, they will continue to release treadmill gear for a long while. Easy to get, hard to get, +1 or +5, it doesn’t matter.