Guild Wars 2

Bridge Repair event in Kessex Hills (centaurs rush in waves)

FULL of bots. Absolutely FULL of them. Do you seriously “investigate” the obviousness here? Ban these or continue to spit in the eye of legit players.

Sea of Sorrow server, but I bet its almost every server.

It’s not so easy to “deal” with bots. Bots work because they emulate the game client – sending the same commands as a normal player does. ANet needs to find a method of detecting bots, and then banning them en-masse.

If they ban one bot account, that person will simply buy/hack a new account and use that. The problem needs to be stopped at the source – the actual botting program. This, unfortunately, is not easy.

Amnon, I do understand what you are saying. And partially you are right from a programmer’s point of view. But…
Judging by what you said, I propose police should wait and do nothing until at least 1000 people get murdered, in front of the police station, so they can put together a program that somehow predicts what kind of people kill other people.
ONLY after that, they will do something about it.
And the examples can continue…

I am not saying it is easy to catch bots, but doing nothing for so long?

Is there a place to report in-game mail spam?
(I guess it was only a matter of time

Daithic.6195:

Is there a place to report in-game mail spam?
(I guess it was only a matter of time

Right click, report, spamming/scamming and then block.

That’s the only way to do it right now.

Deepcuts.9740:

Amnon, I do understand what you are saying. And partially you are right from a programmer’s point of view. But…
Judging by what you said, I propose police should wait and do nothing until at least 1000 people get murdered, in front of the police station, so they can put together a program that somehow predicts what kind of people kill other people.
ONLY after that, they will do something about it.
And the examples can continue…

I am not saying it is easy to catch bots, but doing nothing for so long?

ArenaNet are not the police; they are game developers. And they do ban accounts – but just like in real life, the moment you put one down, 2 more pop up. These people have literally limitless access to new accounts, either by buying or hacking them.

I’m not saying nothing should be done, but I am saying it takes creative thinking, which can take a while. I, as a former independent MMO developer, had similar problems myself – and some of the solutions felt like “punishment” to the players, but they were necessary.

Thanks, for the info Wrathchild. Done and deleted.
Sorry, I finally noticed the ! in the in-game Mail and found the Report Spam option.
Yes, I’ll use the right-click report and block in the Chat channels too.
Thanks.

Daithic.6195:

Thanks, for the info Wrathchild. Done and deleted.
Sorry, I finally noticed the ! in the in-game Mail and found the Report Spam option.
Yes, I’ll use the right-click report and block in the Chat channels too.
Thanks.

In the first week I had loads, 3-4 a day but lately I’ve not received any. I did notice that those I reported and blocked were no longer on my block list, so I’m guessing that they’ve been banned.

Good thing that event is bugged on my server.

The problem is not Anet. They are doing everything they can do: using tokens, banning and anti-farming measures.

The problem is… gamers. Yes that’s right gamers. If they didn’t use the services of gold sellers, bots wouldn’t be here. Lets put it into perspective. An account costs $60. The sellers have to be making atleast over $60 to offset the cost of the account. The ones that got hacked… pure profit. As soon as Anet catches them they get banned.

Selling gold is so lucritive that buying a new account (game) or hacking another account is worth the risk. People are still buying their gold. Gamers MUST STOP buying gold… period. If the well dries up it won’t be cost effective for them to be here.

There are 10-15 bots on the same spot on Sparkfly Fen for the past three weeks, basically since launch. (Isle of Janthir)

@Kailthir.6384
In no way do i support lazy “gamers” that wont even try to make their own gold but with the goldsinks being everywhere in this game i understand why this is happening.

Do an event and you get 1s (Until the diminishing returns…)
Take a waypoint from a main city to Orr = 1s – 3s
Get defeated in PvE or WvW = Repair cost AND waypoint

And that is only the things you do somewhat regularly not counting skillbooks, armor upgrades and so on.

Knuckledust.5621:

Kailthir.6384:

The problem is not Anet. They are doing everything they can do: using tokens, banning and anti-farming measures.

The problem is… gamers. Yes that’s right gamers. If they didn’t use the services of gold sellers, bots wouldn’t be here. Lets put it into perspective. An account costs $60. The sellers have to be making atleast over $60 to offset the cost of the account. The ones that got hacked… pure profit. As soon as Anet catches them they get banned.

Selling gold is so lucritive that buying a new account (game) or hacking another account is worth the risk. People are still buying their gold. Gamers MUST STOP buying gold… period. If the well dries up it won’t be cost effective for them to be here.

It is PLAYERS fault that there is a overpopulation of bots and gold spammers? Are you kitten kidding me?

Fanboys are using literally EVERY excuse to take guilty away from ArenaNet man! This is PATHETIC.

Maybe it is the game’s popularity fault? Or the lack of security measures? Or the incompetence on banning bots and focus on banning “exploters” like those who bought stuff from a NPC “too cheap”? NO, must be the PLAYERS fault!!

Oh my god… this community is sad.

You’re the saddest person on this forum. All you do is crap on this game and try to justify exploits. If people didn’t buy gold what purpose would the bots serve? That’s right, none.

Amnon.4769:

It’s not so easy to “deal” with bots. Bots work because they emulate the game client – sending the same commands as a normal player does. ANet needs to find a method of detecting bots, and then banning them en-masse.

If they ban one bot account, that person will simply buy/hack a new account and use that. The problem needs to be stopped at the source – the actual botting program. This, unfortunately, is not easy.

This ^ is correct you can’t really get rid of BOTS because they have unlimited amount of accounts they’ve hacked and/or stolen credit cards they just buy another copy of the game and nothing every bothers them or costs them money. There was a guy on a tv documentary last year I think it was and he told how these sweat shops work and you just can’t stop them. They will get by every ban that is directed at them and because they are out of the country and in countries that don’t care the law can’t touch them either.

This is also why I don’t care what bots do or how much money they make because they can’t affect my game or the way I play. Games like this aren’t about getting RICH or PRESTIGEOUS because there’s no Equipment progression in this game, not even character progression after lvl 80. So, bots can’t do anything to me in the sense that some players are claiming they can. They don’t keep me from leveling or making my own money or EARNING the GEAR I want. I do not BUY my stuff in RPG games like this because to me the POINT of the game is ADVENTURING for it and EARNING It. So, I really don’t see why so many get upset about bots.
It’s like the one guy said above it’s the gamers that BUY from these bots because they want to be FIRST for some reason or other that keeps bots and gold farmers in these games. If you/they didn’t buy from them they’d have no reason to be here.

Personally I think they should just block chinese IP’s completely. To the 3 legit chinese players, tough luck.

Knucledust wrote:
It is PLAYERS fault that there is a overpopulation of bots and gold spammers? Are you kitten kidding me?

Fanboys are using literally EVERY excuse to take guilty away from ArenaNet man! This is PATHETIC.

Maybe it is the game’s popularity fault? Or the lack of security measures? Or the incompetence on banning bots and focus on banning “exploters” like those who bought stuff from a NPC “too cheap”? NO, must be the PLAYERS fault!!

Geez rage much. It has nothing to do with Anet or any other gaming company. Be it Blizzard, Bioware, EA etc. It has to do with players using their services and breaching the TOS and EULA to begin with. It all starts there. Why aren’t the players that use gold selling services banned? Because you can’t prove it. Just like people farming. You can’t really prove thay are bots. Sure you can speculate. But what if they just found a good farming spot?

If players wouldn’t break these contracts, the gold sellers would not have a service to offer. That is just simple logic 101.

So the only thing a gaming company can do is make drops tokens, or ban the KNOWN gold sellers, or use anti-farming mechanics. Anet does all this.

Hacked accounts have nothing to do with Anet. It has already been proven that accounts are being hacked because of players are not practicing sound gaming security. Using easy passwords or same passwords for multiple games, using same email for multiple games, etc. Players are not making it very hard for hackers to get the info.

And lets be honest no system is hack proof. Even the CIA, FBI and DOD gets hacked from time to time.

All this has nothing to do with the gaming company, has to do with players not practicing security techniques, and not having integrity. They are breaking their contracts with Anet with buying gold. So who is to blame. Anet didn’t invite gold sellers to the game. Players invited them by using their services. Which again is illegal according to the TOS and EULA.

Do you really think Anet is not doing everything in their power to stop this? Do you really think they like the gold farming bots? It cuts into their profits. Only an idiot would think that they are not doing everything they can.

Every MMO at launch has tons of gold farming bots. It’s a profitable buisness. Why? Because the dam players use that buisness. takes time to weed them out.

For Kessex Fields, put a mesmer port in one side and the other at the other side of the bridge on the Explosive Shells. They port, take the shell, boom out of the ports range so cant port back :P

ravnhood, I hope you will feel the same way when you start doing WvW and see teleporting pla…bots.
Because they will not effect your game play whatsoever.