Guild Wars 2

Being a player who solely does dungeons, I find it quite ridiculous that it is expected for players like me to be forced into content they do not enjoy in order to gain obsidian shards. Yes I understand players have been sitting on millions of karma and it needed a nerf, however, why not give dungeon runners a substitute for obsidian shards also?

100 tokens (ex) = 1 shard. Give players with excess tokens, and no karma a way to get their legendaries too. Give players more reason to do every dungeon instead of just a select few for quick gold / only doing arah to sell. And finally allow players such as myself to play the aspect of the game that I enjoy without feeling forced to go outside it.

fractals.

That conversion rate is just plain bad. You’d need upwards of 50k tokens to make a legendary with that rate. Not to mention, dungeon tokens are already a valuable source of ectos (for CoF and up) with a great conversion rate.

They do need to do something more for karma, but this is not it. They should bring the small karma pots back into the dungeon bags.

ArrDee.2573:

fractals.

I know that, and I do do daily fractals however, those are two completely different aspects of the game, and by giving dungeons not a single way to earn obsidian shards, players like myself are extremely limited with our options.

Slay Her.2783:

ArrDee.2573:

fractals.

I know that, and I do do daily fractals however, those are two completely different aspects of the game, and by giving dungeons not a single way to earn obsidian shards, players like myself are extremely limited with our options.

They really aren’t different aspects of the game at all. Fractals is little more than an elite dungeon with (IMO) bad rewards for the time and difficulty of the content.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

That conversion rate is just plain bad. You’d need upwards of 50k tokens to make a legendary with that rate. Not to mention, dungeon tokens are already a valuable source of ectos (for CoF and up) with a great conversion rate.

They do need to do something more for karma, but this is not it. They should bring the small karma pots back into the dungeon bags.

The token amount I gave is just an example, and even at that rate it still isn’t a hard feat as upwards of 1k tokens can easily be earned in 1 dungeon train, which I and my guild does every day

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Slay Her.2783:

ArrDee.2573:

fractals.

I know that, and I do do daily fractals however, those are two completely different aspects of the game, and by giving dungeons not a single way to earn obsidian shards, players like myself are extremely limited with our options.

They really aren’t different aspects of the game at all. Fractals is little more than an elite dungeon with (IMO) bad rewards for the time and difficulty of the content.

They have similar features, and while fractals were modeled after dungeons, they are still a different part of the game with a different section of rewards.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

That conversion rate is just plain bad. You’d need upwards of 50k tokens to make a legendary with that rate. Not to mention, dungeon tokens are already a valuable source of ectos (for CoF and up) with a great conversion rate.

They do need to do something more for karma, but this is not it. They should bring the small karma pots back into the dungeon bags.

it took me less than a stack for my clovers plus the 250. but let’s say you need 500 for the clovers and the gift. that’s 7500 fractal relics, not 50,000. and you’ll probably finish getting 7500 fractal relics before you finish grabbing all your t6 mats assuming you started with nothing. all of this is assuming you’re only doing fractals for obsidian shards, which you shouldn’t be doing.

Why not though? Just by doing a Level 9 Fractal a day, I can earn 2.5 Obsidian Shards (24 Relics for completion, plus a Pristine Fractal Relic that can be converted to 15 Relics) a day, plus gold, Emp Fragments and other assorted loot. Assuming a halfway decent group, you can complete that in about an hour and a bit. That’s about the same time it would take to earn the 5000 or so karma you’d need for buying the Obsidian from the Temple of Balthazar.

the point i was trying to make is that limiting yourself to only farming fractals or only grinding karma for shards is a mistake. if you need shards, do both.

Ahh, fair enough. Yes, I echo that suggestion. Do a Fractal a day when you can, and supplement it with Obsidian purchased with karma.

I really do wish that SAB W2 had still allowed us to buy Obsidian with Bauble Bubbles though. I stockpiled almost 50 Obsidian from W1.

Slay Her.2783:

Being a player who solely does dungeons, I find it quite ridiculous that it is expected for players like me to be forced into content they do not enjoy in order to gain obsidian shards. Yes I understand players have been sitting on millions of karma and it needed a nerf, however, why not give dungeon runners a substitute for obsidian shards also?

100 tokens (ex) = 1 shard. Give players with excess tokens, and no karma a way to get their legendaries too. Give players more reason to do every dungeon instead of just a select few for quick gold / only doing arah to sell. And finally allow players such as myself to play the aspect of the game that I enjoy without feeling forced to go outside it.

Sorry. Crafting a Legendary was initially meant to show that you mastered all aspects of the game. Having said that, if you only do Dungeons, then the only way you can get a Legendary is to buy one from me the Trading Post.