I think it depends on the material. The really expensive materials (used to be bloods and scales) were worth promoting.
Things like heavy bag of _______ hold some t5 and t6 materials, but there’s no guarantee which ones or how many you will get. You can farm the heavy moldy ones in Orr, mining bags in the Dredge fractal, and I often get just plain powerful blood drops from harpies also in fractals.
The heavy bags you can buy with laurels are also great.
In order to get the t6 dust I salvaged ectos, because it gives a bunch and I wanted more mf. But you can get this from heavy bags too. (My legendary required 750 of this, and my immobulus 250 so I had to salvage a lot of ecto)
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If you need them for your Legendary, go ahead and try to get your mystic clovers now.
You will get some t6 mats from forging clovers.
As the profit per skillpoint is way higher if you promote t1-2 than t5-6, i would suggest to promote Green Wood Planks and Bronze Ingots, sell Iron Ingots and Soft Planks, then buy t6 mats with your profit.
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Farming t6 mats directly is an incredibly inefficient use of time.
Oh and promoting T6 mats can sometimes result in an overall loss. There are spreadsheets out there that calculate promotion profit/loss.
You do realize most of the T6 materials that exist on the TP is from someone farming it. If no one farmed it and everyone bought it off the TP as you suggest there wouldn’t be a supply to buy.
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Farming t6 mats directly is an incredibly inefficient use of time.
Oh and promoting T6 mats can sometimes result in an overall loss. There are spreadsheets out there that calculate promotion profit/loss.
You do realize most of the T6 materials that exist on the TP is from someone farming it. If no one farmed it and everyone bought it off the TP as you suggest there wouldn’t be a supply to buy.
Depends on what you mean by ‘farming’. Are we going to be farming for specific T6 mats? Cause that is inefficient and I doubt most of the supply in the world comes from farming specific mats.
Farming moldy bags, however, are a good supply of T6 mats on the TP.
This is true, but if you value your future, don’t blow your laurels on these for any reason at all ever. You wouldn’t believe how bad this ticked me off when ascended crafting landed and I need 5 laurels (5 days) for every individual piece of every individual stat of armor and the same for weapons I ever thought of making…
90 t6 mats (3 per bag) or buy a set of ascended armor recipes? weigh your future carefully
You do realize most of the T6 materials that exist on the TP is from someone farming it. If no one farmed it and everyone bought it off the TP as you suggest there wouldn’t be a supply to buy.
Farming for them specifically is a terrible waste of time when it is more efficient to “farm generally” or otherwise get the gold and buy them.
There may be lot’s of T6 mats on the TP and they did indeed have to get there from somewhere. But when you have thousands of players playing the game, one or two mats at a time adds up very quickly to the total pool available. Hence there is no need for anyone to specifically target farm them (bots might ofc), in order for there to be said supply on the TP.
I use laurels to get them. Keeps my wallet fat. Once you get an amulet on your main fractal runner for higher levels forget about your laurels. You can get ascended accessories with guild commendations (1 every 2 weeks) and ascended rings from FotM trader (1 every 10 runs, assuming you don’t get a lucky drop in run with the stats you want.)
Otherwise just spend an hour doing all the large-scale mob events you can in Orr or Frostgorge. You can also get a ton of the blood in Southsun.
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You do realize most of the T6 materials that exist on the TP is from someone farming it. If no one farmed it and everyone bought it off the TP as you suggest there wouldn’t be a supply to buy.
Farming for them specifically is a terrible waste of time when it is more efficient to “farm generally” or otherwise get the gold and buy them.
There may be lot’s of T6 mats on the TP and they did indeed have to get there from somewhere. But when you have thousands of players playing the game, one or two mats at a time adds up very quickly to the total pool available. Hence there is no need for anyone to specifically target farm them (bots might ofc), in order for there to be said supply on the TP.
I didn’t say they were farmed individually. I just said they were farmed. And no you can see the number of sells at each price point and buyers on the TP. The number of people selling in massive bulks is very little. Such as 1357 of one material but only 3 people selling it at that price. This suggests that their they are buying massive amounts and reselling or someone farmed it and selling it.
Gold ore for instance i sell in bulks of 750 the amount of competition i have is very little as there is very few sellers.
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You do realize most of the T6 materials that exist on the TP is from someone farming it. If no one farmed it and everyone bought it off the TP as you suggest there wouldn’t be a supply to buy.
Farming for them specifically is a terrible waste of time when it is more efficient to “farm generally” or otherwise get the gold and buy them.
There may be lot’s of T6 mats on the TP and they did indeed have to get there from somewhere. But when you have thousands of players playing the game, one or two mats at a time adds up very quickly to the total pool available. Hence there is no need for anyone to specifically target farm them (bots might ofc), in order for there to be said supply on the TP.
I didn’t say they were farmed individually. I just said they were farmed. And no you can see the number of sells at each price point and buyers on the TP. The number of people selling in massive bulks is very little. Such as 1357 of one material but only 3 people selling it at that price. This suggests that their they are buying massive amounts and reselling or someone farmed it and selling it.
Gold ore for instance i sell in bulks of 750 the amount of competition i have is very little as there is very few sellers.
It was pointed out it is not worth farming specifcally for them. I also mentioned that was not required for there to be a ready supply of them on the TP. So your first point is agreeing with me.
As for bulk selling, what exactly are you trying to say? I mentioned that it was perfectly possible for a ready supply of mats to be made available on the TP due to the fact that thousands upon thousands of players are generating said mats via a variety of different sources. There is no need for people to specifically farm for them in order for there to be a supply. Whether or not people bulk sell or flip in no way contradicts that point.
Very few sellers of gold ore? It has a massive amount of volume listed each day. There will be hundreds/thousands of people selling gold ore each day, not all of them are trying to sell a stack, not all of them are trying to profit from shifting prices. They are merely selling excess. Which backs up the initial point. A large amount of players can add a significant number of mats into the market without any concerted, specific target farming on the players behalf.
You do realize most of the T6 materials that exist on the TP is from someone farming it. If no one farmed it and everyone bought it off the TP as you suggest there wouldn’t be a supply to buy.
Farming for them specifically is a terrible waste of time when it is more efficient to “farm generally” or otherwise get the gold and buy them.
There may be lot’s of T6 mats on the TP and they did indeed have to get there from somewhere. But when you have thousands of players playing the game, one or two mats at a time adds up very quickly to the total pool available. Hence there is no need for anyone to specifically target farm them (bots might ofc), in order for there to be said supply on the TP.
I didn’t say they were farmed individually. I just said they were farmed. And no you can see the number of sells at each price point and buyers on the TP. The number of people selling in massive bulks is very little. Such as 1357 of one material but only 3 people selling it at that price. This suggests that their they are buying massive amounts and reselling or someone farmed it and selling it.
Gold ore for instance i sell in bulks of 750 the amount of competition i have is very little as there is very few sellers.
It was pointed out it is not worth farming specifcally for them. I also mentioned that was not required for there to be a ready supply of them on the TP. So your first point is agreeing with me.
As for bulk selling, what exactly are you trying to say? I mentioned that it was perfectly possible for a ready supply of mats to be made available on the TP due to the fact that thousands upon thousands of players are generating said mats via a variety of different sources. There is no need for people to specifically farm for them in order for there to be a supply. Whether or not people bulk sell or flip in no way contradicts that point.
your point was that many smaller people are selling a small amount at a time. Evidence to the contrary however as when you look at the TP there are only a few sellers at each price point but selling in a massive quantity. There is thousands of people generating materials but very little are selling them but yet there is individuals are selling them in a massive quantity. So either those people with a massive supply are trading post flippers or are farming the materials.
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your point was that many smaller people are selling a small amount at a time. Evidence to the contrary however as when you look at the TP there are only a few sellers at each price point but selling in a massive quantity. There is thousands of people generating materials but very little are selling them but yet there is individuals are selling them in a massive quantity. So either those people with a massive supply are trading post flippers or are farming the materials.
They are TP flippers. They put in a buy price and buy hundreds of items from people who don’t care to set their own sell rate for the 2 or 3 items they looted, then they turn around and sell them in large quantity.
Additionally, there are people who simply have tons of resources who can sit around at the mystic forge and make clovers all day as a method of obtaining more T6 mats.
Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!
your point was that many smaller people are selling a small amount at a time. Evidence to the contrary however as when you look at the TP there are only a few sellers at each price point but selling in a massive quantity. There is thousands of people generating materials but very little are selling them but yet there is individuals are selling them in a massive quantity. So either those people with a massive supply are trading post flippers or are farming the materials.
Most of them use fast sell at market orders, so you can look at the orderbook of a highly liquid asset like mats all you want. You will have zero idea as to how many people are selling and how many mats each one is selling.
In terms of sell orders, there may be a volume of 20k at one price, that is not all one guy, you have no way of telling just how many people are in at that price range. Although it is much easier to know in thin markets.
Thousands of players are selling small amounts of mats each and every day, a much smaller number are flipping in bulk.
your point was that many smaller people are selling a small amount at a time. Evidence to the contrary however as when you look at the TP there are only a few sellers at each price point but selling in a massive quantity. There is thousands of people generating materials but very little are selling them but yet there is individuals are selling them in a massive quantity. So either those people with a massive supply are trading post flippers or are farming the materials.
Most of them use fast sell at market orders, so you can look at the orderbook of a highly liquid asset like mats all you want. You will have zero idea as to how many people are selling and how many mats each one is selling.
In terms of sell orders, there may be a volume of 20k at one price, that is not all one guy, you have no way of telling just how many people are in at that price range. Although it is much easier to know in thin markets.
Thousands of players are selling small amounts of mats each and every day, a much smaller number are flipping in bulk.
Actually it tells you how many people are at that price range lol! It also tells you how many buyers at a price range. You need to have another look at the TP cause it does tell you how many sellers at a certain price range and quantity in that price range.
But your right on your first part as if they sell fast I can not see them unless they exist when I opened the trading post to that page when they are up. I also do not know how many are being sold to the buy orders.
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your point was that many smaller people are selling a small amount at a time. Evidence to the contrary however as when you look at the TP there are only a few sellers at each price point but selling in a massive quantity. There is thousands of people generating materials but very little are selling them but yet there is individuals are selling them in a massive quantity. So either those people with a massive supply are trading post flippers or are farming the materials.
Most of them use fast sell at market orders, so you can look at the orderbook of a highly liquid asset like mats all you want. You will have zero idea as to how many people are selling and how many mats each one is selling.
In terms of sell orders, there may be a volume of 20k at one price, that is not all one guy, you have no way of telling just how many people are in at that price range. Although it is much easier to know in thin markets.
Thousands of players are selling small amounts of mats each and every day, a much smaller number are flipping in bulk.
Actually it tells you how many people are at that price range lol! It also tells you how many buyers at a price range. You need to have another look at the TP cause it does tell you how many sellers at a certain price range and quantity in that price range.
But your right on your first part as if they sell fast I can not see them unless they exist when I opened the trading post to that page when they are up. I also do not know how many are being sold to the buy orders.
No, it doesn’t. It lists price and volume, it does not state how many unique sellers comprise that volume, nor what fraction of said volume each seller takes up.
Regardless, as you agree, the fast sell option means that whilst you might not see specific evidence of it in the orderbook. There are indeed masses of players shifting small amounts of mats.
your point was that many smaller people are selling a small amount at a time. Evidence to the contrary however as when you look at the TP there are only a few sellers at each price point but selling in a massive quantity. There is thousands of people generating materials but very little are selling them but yet there is individuals are selling them in a massive quantity. So either those people with a massive supply are trading post flippers or are farming the materials.
Most of them use fast sell at market orders, so you can look at the orderbook of a highly liquid asset like mats all you want. You will have zero idea as to how many people are selling and how many mats each one is selling.
In terms of sell orders, there may be a volume of 20k at one price, that is not all one guy, you have no way of telling just how many people are in at that price range. Although it is much easier to know in thin markets.
Thousands of players are selling small amounts of mats each and every day, a much smaller number are flipping in bulk.
Actually it tells you how many people are at that price range lol! It also tells you how many buyers at a price range. You need to have another look at the TP cause it does tell you how many sellers at a certain price range and quantity in that price range.
But your right on your first part as if they sell fast I can not see them unless they exist when I opened the trading post to that page when they are up. I also do not know how many are being sold to the buy orders.
No, it doesn’t. It lists price and volume, it does not state how many unique sellers comprise that volume, nor what fraction of said volume each seller takes up.
Regardless, as you agree, the fast sell option means that whilst you might not see specific evidence of it in the orderbook. There are indeed masses of players shifting small amounts of mats.
mmmmm I have to check this when I get home cause I swear i could see number of people selling and quantity on mine……. mmmmmm interesting indeed.
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