Guild Wars 2

Currant state of GvG scene is sad. Its player organised in arena that is just not fit for battle and its easily trolled by well almost everyone. Worst part about it; it has really huge amount players involved in its organisation and in participating GvG matches. It has its own site, hundreds of youtube/twich videos are being made about it and they even got commentators.

Here are few suggestions to make it one of the GW2 dominant game modes besides sPvP and WvW.

GvG deserves its own tab, near sPvP and WvW. In this tab your guild would be able to challenge other guilds to GvG or set your guild for other to challenge. Doing this you would earn ranks for your guild. Top 40 guild would later on participate in league for Guild champion. Those champions would get their statues in L.A. for 1 (one) month after win.

GvG should function by sPvP rules meaning no gear grind and everything unlocked from beginning.

Guild upgrade system needs upgrade for guilds participating in GvG that also involves aforementioned guild ranks. Why? There should be really hard, months hard with hard work achievable guild upgrade that allowed other players to bet money on your guild matches. Why months hard? To prevent cheating/match selling. How it would prevent that? It would make players think twice before trying to cheat/sell matches because of work that has to be made for that upgrade.

League matches should be organised on weekends. Every weekend 2 matches. With exclusive right to certain really good commentators to edit and post videos on their channels. Players, not participating in GvG should be able to hear commentators but also be able to mute them.

GvG could be GW2 version of super bawl or champions league.

For battle arenas, there should be few choices. Currant empty arena or arena thats more in line with lets say pvp map Legacy of the Foefire where you should have few objectives and few crucial points to hold.

Now, most important question, why would average joe of GW2 who doesnt care/knows about GvG care about GvG?

Well, thats where guild upgrade that allows betting on guild come in play. Players in GW2 care about income/h. If betting on GvG matches seems profitable to them, they will do it. Players participating in GvG matches would have to be on same server so securing victory in league would bring glory and hate to that server because of before mentioned statues in L.A. which should be on all servers in everyones face.

While I’m on subject of betting, besides bets on next match, players should be also be able to bet on winner of league.

Also, every time there are 4 different winners of league, there should be ultimate showdown.

Why would currant GvG’ers care about ranked GvG matches? Well they already do and they are crying for something organized that would on top of everything raward them property and bring glory to their guild.

I dont know about you, but i would really like to log in on Saturday 9 pm (21:00) and enjoy watching and betting on some good GvG matches. With commentaries and camera switching to interesting parts. While eating popcorns.

(English is not my main language.)

Simple reply is that this game doesn’t have GvG. It is not a feature in the game and officially it doesn’t exist.

Also, knowing how this thread likely go. The name guildwars has nothing to do with GvG, but with the historical event the guildwars, that happened before the timeline IN GW1.

I know a lot of people want an official GvG, but I’m somewhat doubtfull bout how desirable it is. The reason is what happened with GvG in GW1. At start it was pretty popular. but eventually some guilds got better then others. So everyone wanted to be into these guilds and they only took the best cause they could choose. So those guilds only got better. this limited the amount of guilds big time. The tactics for being succesfull where often guildsecrets and kept within the guild. So the knowledge kept very confined within, this resulted in either more guilds leaving the format. In the end there where bout 10 succesfull GvG guilds left and the rest gave up and moved along.

In the current game we have some very good e-sport competitions, but they are not bound to guilds. This promotes groups forming on occassion and that the tactics to win are more spread around.

By the way, besides your own organized GvG, your guild team can participate in those tournaments as well.

mercury ranique.2170:

Simple reply is that this game doesn’t have GvG. It is not a feature in the game and officially it doesn’t exist.

Also, knowing how this thread likely go. The name guildwars has nothing to do with GvG, but with the historical event the guildwars, that happened before the timeline IN GW1.

I know a lot of people want an official GvG, but I’m somewhat doubtfull bout how desirable it is. The reason is what happened with GvG in GW1. At start it was pretty popular. but eventually some guilds got better then others. So everyone wanted to be into these guilds and they only took the best cause they could choose. So those guilds only got better. this limited the amount of guilds big time. The tactics for being succesfull where often guildsecrets and kept within the guild. So the knowledge kept very confined within, this resulted in either more guilds leaving the format. In the end there where bout 10 succesfull GvG guilds left and the rest gave up and moved along.

In the current game we have some very good e-sport competitions, but they are not bound to guilds. This promotes groups forming on occassion and that the tactics to win are more spread around.

By the way, besides your own organized GvG, your guild team can participate in those tournaments as well.

I’m sorry but i am going to have too disagree with your statement.

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“I know a lot of people want an official GvG, but I’m somewhat doubtfull bout how desirable it is. The reason is what happened with GvG in GW1. At start it was pretty popular. but eventually some guilds got better then others. So everyone wanted to be into these guilds and they only took the best cause they could choose. So those guilds only got better. this limited the amount of guilds big time. The tactics for being succesfull where often guildsecrets and kept within the guild. So the knowledge kept very confined within, this resulted in either more guilds leaving the format. In the end there where bout 10 succesfull GvG guilds left and the rest gave up and moved along.”
/endquote

There were many successful guilds, ranging from all the world. Such guilds as Rebel Rising [rawr], Delta Formation [DF], Dark Alley [dR] , and Stealing Society [sTs] (none of these said guilds are smurf’s). All of these said guild’s achieved gold trim’s. There are countless thousands that were good and are good that don’t have trim either.
There were no guild secret’s. anyone could press “B” in game and watch there match’s and assimilate there bars. Many did and such became meta’s like rawr’s Hexway, and other balance builds. Everyone knew Chopchop ran a shock axe and Lego ran a PB/PD mesmer. It had nothing to do with these “secret builds” it was player skill. Getting good and getting great ranks.
Competitive PvP was Guild Wars 1 endgame, the sooner Arenanet realizes this the sooner the health of the game will improve. I am simply dumbfounded by there arrogance in thinking PvE is the answer. People ran through PvE just to get to 20 so they can take plush aesthetics into PvP alone (Chaos Gloves, Obsidian Armor, Chaos Axe, Storm Bow). In this games current state GW1 has more of a chance of being a esport than GW2.

mercury ranique.2170:

Simple reply is that this game doesn’t have GvG. It is not a feature in the game and officially it doesn’t exist.

Also, knowing how this thread likely go. The name guildwars has nothing to do with GvG, but with the historical event the guildwars, that happened before the timeline IN GW1.

I know a lot of people want an official GvG, but I’m somewhat doubtfull bout how desirable it is. The reason is what happened with GvG in GW1. At start it was pretty popular. but eventually some guilds got better then others. So everyone wanted to be into these guilds and they only took the best cause they could choose. So those guilds only got better. this limited the amount of guilds big time. The tactics for being succesfull where often guildsecrets and kept within the guild. So the knowledge kept very confined within, this resulted in either more guilds leaving the format. In the end there where bout 10 succesfull GvG guilds left and the rest gave up and moved along.

In the current game we have some very good e-sport competitions, but they are not bound to guilds. This promotes groups forming on occassion and that the tactics to win are more spread around.

By the way, besides your own organized GvG, your guild team can participate in those tournaments as well.

Wow what a bad post. None of this is true.

• Game launched with Guild vs Guild battles and was named “Guild Wars”… despite what gets repeated ad nauseum on these pve forums, GW1 was advertised as a game focused on pvp and that’s why it had the name it did.
• The entire paragraph about “guildsecrets” is totally incorrect and misguided. The GvG ladder is active to this day (with more people than current gw2 spvp maybe even) and as the other poster said all top GvG matches are on public observe for all to see.

For the love of Tyria …..
Why cant you simple change the <<WvWvW GvG>> name into smthing else !
And i am 99% sure , you will get all the support and modes and everthing you need for ever !
Just simply change the kitten name fffsssss , instead of begging for over a year …..
Otherwise you will stay on the darkness !!!!!

GvG = GW1 pattern -istanced/prgianized battleground
Name it differently for the love of gods …..!!! !

milo.6942:

mercury ranique.2170:

Wow what a bad post. None of this is true.

• Game launched with Guild vs Guild battles and was named “Guild Wars”… despite what gets repeated ad nauseum on these pve forums, GW1 was advertised as a game focused on pvp and that’s why it had the name it did.
• The entire paragraph about “guildsecrets” is totally incorrect and misguided. The GvG ladder is active to this day (with more people than current gw2 spvp maybe even) and as the other poster said all top GvG matches are on public observe for all to see.

First of all, thanks for proving how bad the internet can be by your personal attack. Your a shining example how not to discuss things in a civil and mature way.

But from the Wiki:
‘The name of the series comes from the Guild Wars, a series of conflicts between Tyrian guilds which led to decline of humanity and allowing the charr to invade and eventually retake Ascalon, and other events of the first series of the games.’

If you would have been a bit more mature I would even looked up one of the many quotes off Arenanet officials confirming this fact.

mercury ranique.2170:

milo.6942:

mercury ranique.2170:

Wow what a bad post. None of this is true.

• Game launched with Guild vs Guild battles and was named “Guild Wars”… despite what gets repeated ad nauseum on these pve forums, GW1 was advertised as a game focused on pvp and that’s why it had the name it did.
• The entire paragraph about “guildsecrets” is totally incorrect and misguided. The GvG ladder is active to this day (with more people than current gw2 spvp maybe even) and as the other poster said all top GvG matches are on public observe for all to see.

First of all, thanks for proving how bad the internet can be by your personal attack. Your a shining example how not to discuss things in a civil and mature way.

But from the Wiki:
‘The name of the series comes from the Guild Wars, a series of conflicts between Tyrian guilds which led to decline of humanity and allowing the charr to invade and eventually retake Ascalon, and other events of the first series of the games.’

If you would have been a bit more mature I would even looked up one of the many quotes off Arenanet officials confirming this fact.

It wasn’t a personal attack at all, your post was just brimming with misinformation

I’m aware that GW2 has retconned the GW1 origins (especially, but not limited to, its pvp heritage) but the facts of the original remain. I don’t especially care to debate the source of the Guild Wars name, but I like to at least give the other, more common-sense, explanation (name directly linked to promote gvg). Anyway it remains that the rest of your post, as I’ve already mentioned, is very uninformed.

they are not going to make GvG, because they want you to buy the Custom Arena.

to them, if you really want to play GvG without interruption, play in the Custom Arena….

azizul.8469:

they are not going to make GvG, because they want you to buy the Custom Arena.

to them, if you really want to play GvG without interruption, play in the Custom Arena….

If there is an arena to purchase i would have to question the ethics of Arenanet (assuming this is their idea). sPvP did not deliver nearly the same quality or attention as PvE. I understand we are talking about two completely separate game modes, but sPvP has (my opinion) a rushed feeling.
If anyone remembers Heroes Ascent (8v8 PvP) capture point maps were dreaded by everyone. I remember often my vent channel blowing up with disappointment we were headed to Forgotten Shrines and The Antichamber. Why did they make sPvP JUST capture points? Is it the only mechanic that is viable for the platform?
As for GvG i feel as though it would set forward a revival for the game. Myself i play other mmo’s constantly but participate on the forums just praying for the chance of hearing news of new PvP modes/ new skills, and the possible but yet impossible chance of bringing interchangable weapon skills back. We keep saying “yes” and they just keep ignoring and snubbing the PvP community. Sometimes a step back can be a step forward.