Guild Wars 2

I’m sure this is raised daily but.. I’m getting upset with gw2 after investing so much time into the game. After loving it and playing it so much.. I am just tired.

So HoT is coming maybe at the end of August. At least thats when most of us as speculating it’s coming but what are we getting right now?
Just looking at the release page on Wiki, because frankly i’m lazy and this is the first page I found with releases;

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Release

The last 2 years we’ve seen new updates every month just about. New patches, or events.
The last true “release” was in January. It’s now the middle of May nearly and we’ve seen no update other than the Chinese New year release which as far as I know was just a rehashed event from the Chinese Servers?

It’s now May.. we’ve not really properly had any patch or anything “new” no events since January.
So what, are we genuinely expected to hang around doing nothing other than looking at new specialisations till August?
I get it’s great we get to see the expansion stuff.. but we don’t get to play it (oh except people with lucky rng in game/email)
I don’t know right now.

Super Adventure box with some new achievements?

Some new dungeon achievements just to keep people interested for a couple weeks?

Some rare skins dropping only in the dungeons. Like a Spirit Dagger (similar to the spirit crafted weapons but dagger/mace etc) for AC example.

Some new fractal achievements? – Fractal Weapon collection? New use for Pristine Relics?

A new type of guild mission?

New skins (NOT IN THE GEMSTORE) to farm/acquire from doing specific tasks (collections / quests / bosses or something )

Open world scavenger hunts, there are hidden areas all over the map. I’ve just completed my 4th map completion this week. There are still little areas that I discover or rediscover every time I do it. Just adding little interactions or something, to gain an item and get a new collection for.. SOMETHING would give people something to do.

No offence to the hardworking gw2 team, but while HoT might be the top of your priorities.. as a player.. I need something to do after nearly 4 months of nothing.. and I’m one to grind content.
I will grind out Fractals over and over. I will grind out achievements over and over. I have done all the LS Achievements, I have done the PvP achievements etc

I mean, the mobile game I’m playing at the moment is pushing out events left right and centre. Even if those events are just “double drop rate” or. “double exp” at least they are something to focus my attention on.

I can’t really say gw2 can adapt these specific things, but like..

Double Karma for a weekend.. or… increased precursor drop rate.. or.. double exp from events..
Like if it’s double exp.. maybe i’ll level that new character (not me personally just you know..)

This whole beta thing really bothered me too. I would really like to help test the beta.. but I have farmed so much SW that I just can’t anymore. I’ve defended Blue,Red,Indigo and Amber so often that I just don’t want to anymore. I don’t need the gold from it I did all that over Xmas when Silverwastes was new. I did dry top when Drytop was new. I don’t really want to farm the content I grinded out when it was new for a “chance” at trying the beta
(Note, I have completed probably 3-4 full breaches/VWs daily since the portal was announced/started dropping. While not a lot that’s all I brought myself to being able to do)

Sorry for the wall of text. I’m just worried at this point I’m going to turn away to another game and just forget about gw2, then get even further behind on the AP wheel (dailys/locked achivements from S1) if I come back and miss out because I lost interest in a game that wasn’t providing me with anything new.

I mean honestly, looking around at other games. they are all regularly releasing something. Be it events or content.. the last time I can remember having an event in gw2 now was Christmas.. the Chinese event was .. just .. no words.. but yea..

But muh gem store

Crystallize.8603:

I mean honestly, looking around at other games. they are all regularly releasing something. Be it events or content.. the last time I can remember having an event in gw2 now was Christmas.. the Chinese event was .. just .. no words.. but yea..

Except when working on expansions, where they basically don’t release anything new for a rather long time.

WoW is a great example, going a YEAR without any sort of new content before expansion AND require people to pay monthly for it.

Those of us that prefer the Living Story model warned for this when people demanded expansions. It is simply not feasible to have a small company such as ArenaNet both working on an expansion AND releasing big content patches at the same time.

I’m not asking for big content patches. a lot of the frame work is already in place for new collections. Small things can go a long way. Like new collections of items ALREADY IN THE GAME.
Fractal leaderboard? that was a thing once.
Honestly there just hasn’t been anything since Xmas.. and the Xmas events were really just copy/paste of last years..

I guess, at least in GW1 when they did minor skill changes that affected dungeons/pvp etc we spent a couple days working on adapting builds to suit them. Even the slightest fix could be meta changing :/ Now small bug changes and skill fixes really don’t do anything.

But that is just the thing: You wouldn’t be content with something being copy/paste as shown by the last line in the second paragraph. Therefore the only thing that would make you happy would be new content. Content that would take both time, money and resources away from the expansion.

on the contrary, I was happy to do the Xmas event as it was something that isn’t permanently in the game. It was something “different” regardless of rehashed content, it was something different.
It’s like SAB, people honestly didn’t care if it was “new” or just the last one. They just wanted SAB because it was something to do.
Right now people want SOMETHING TO DO. Not just “Oh look dragonhunter is coming… yay..” we want to PLAY.

Usually every two weeks on tuesday comes an update with some fixes or at least some new gemstore stuff. The last time this didn’t happen was in august 2014 (because dragonsreach part 2 was so much we got 3 weeks to play it) and before that it was something january 2014? (because of winter break)

Actually these update cycle date ist today, but usually the update has been introduced at this time. We got like usually new (well, old new…) gemstore skins, so will there be no update today at all? Does anyone have any information if or why there is no update today? (and no “HoT” is no reason for this and has nothing todo with it!)

Crystallize.8603:

on the contrary, I was happy to do the Xmas event as it was something that isn’t permanently in the game. It was something “different” regardless of rehashed content, it was something different.
It’s like SAB, people honestly didn’t care if it was “new” or just the last one. They just wanted SAB because it was something to do.
Right now people want SOMETHING TO DO. Not just “Oh look dragonhunter is coming… yay..” we want to PLAY.

And yet even if we got SAB today, people would play it for a few days and then complain about not having W3.

It is also a matter of resources. They can’t just push a button and SAB magically works again. They need to make sure that none of the changes done since it was last here have broken something for SAB, and if it have it could take weeks to find out where the bug is and how to fix it. Something that would require taking time and people away from working on the expansion.

gemstore skins, are not something I can spend time doing. If anet are going to honestly turn around and tell me that them updating the gemstore on a bimonthly basis should keep me playing then that’s a whole other problem.

April 28th

Beta portal stones dropped – Mentioned already
Black Lion skins updated – P2w gemstore nonsense not farming keys by remaking chars ty.

April 14th

New gemstore items – …? This is content?
Ability to buy Season 2 as a bundle – …? This is content?
Updated some tiny bugs – This is content?

April 7th

Fixed a Client Crash

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/March_2015

etc..

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/February_2015

etc..

They might complain at a lack of s3, but those same people i’m sure would still do it because it’s SOMETHING DIFFERENT. Something non-permanent and just different to the current state of the game.

Or people can just take a break if they feel like there is nothing they want to do in the game.

No one is forcing them to play every day. It is not like you have a subscription that you must get your monies worth of.

That is true, and I understand that. But this is a game I want to play daily when I can. This is a game I really want to keep WANTING to play. Yet right now, I don’t want to because there isn’t anything different. I look around at other games, even mobile phone games and see AN event. Doesn’t have to be anything glamorous, just something different to do.
Easter came and went and we had no “easter” event. Valentines day came and went and no event there.. Spring has come and no “Spring event” they could just throw something here or there to show

“Hey loyal players, we’ve not forgotten you!” I guess is how i feel right now ;/

Instead of “Hey players, new and old, this is stuff you CAN play if you BUY our expansion”!!!

EDIT I guess it’s like.. why buy HoT when right now, all I can see is a wall of no updates, no events and the next new content I have to pay for. So after HoT i’ll have to keep paying for new content/events? or..?
(I get I probably wont have to pay after HoT for a while I do see that, but that’s how it feels right now. Considering the Sheer amount they are getting from the gemstore.. :|)

So basically adding stuff (which once again takes time, money and resources) for the sake of adding stuff?

There will never be a game that can have new stuff for people to do forever.

I can also almost guarantee that there is plenty of stuff in the game already that you have not done.

Or do you have all Living Story achievements?
Completed all collection?
Gotten 5 characters to lvl 80?
Gotten to rank 80 in sPvP?
Gotten all legendaries?
Gotten full Ascended gear for your character?

And so on.

Or do you have all Living Story achievements? Yes
Completed all collection? Nearly all. Grinding orr / Jormag for the RNG drops for collections still.
Gotten 5 characters to lvl 80? I have.. about 25 at level 80
Gotten to rank 80 in sPvP? Yes and am slowly but surely getting Champion on all chars.
Gotten all legendaries? 6 so far. Eternity / Bolt/Minstrel/Incinerator/Quip working 2nd quip for Twice Told Legend.
Gotten full Ascended gear for your character? 2 sets for war. 1 set for guard (working on 2nd) 2 sets for ele (working on 3rd) 1 set for thief. Working on Mesmer they are the classes I play. But all my active characters have 55+ AR for fotm 49. Other chars have full exotics/geared out and all have ascended accessories.

Next.

Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic?
Gotten to Platinum Legend in WvW?
Completed all feasible (ergo all possible except most of the WvW ones) achievements?

Almost every thread that has something like “any new content coming before hot?” or “this is broken pls fix” you just go and blindly defend every anet’s move and tell people to do some stupid things like “Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic? Gotten all legendaries?” . May i ask why?

lordkrall.7241:

Crystallize.8603:

I mean honestly, looking around at other games. they are all regularly releasing something. Be it events or content.. the last time I can remember having an event in gw2 now was Christmas.. the Chinese event was .. just .. no words.. but yea..

Except when working on expansions, where they basically don’t release anything new for a rather long time.

WoW is a great example, going a YEAR without any sort of new content before expansion AND require people to pay monthly for it.

Those of us that prefer the Living Story model warned for this when people demanded expansions. It is simply not feasible to have a small company such as ArenaNet both working on an expansion AND releasing big content patches at the same time.

This is so off-base. It wasn’t until the last content update at the end of MoP that Blizzard started releasing less frequent content updates. Before that though, there were many content updates in-between expansions.

nexxe.7081:

This is so off-base. It wasn’t until the last content update at the end of MoP that Blizzard started releasing less frequent content updates. Before that though, there were many content updates in-between expansions.

Every WoW x-=pack had content Droughts :P
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13923582299

(I didnt remember in vaniia to be so long :P Thanks god lvling up a character up to 60 had a plesant time in the elf teretory with 23 days :P – I must get exalted with the elfs , so i can ride that tiger mount :P)

Killthehealersffs.8940:

nexxe.7081:

This is so off-base. It wasn’t until the last content update at the end of MoP that Blizzard started releasing less frequent content updates. Before that though, there were many content updates in-between expansions.

Every WoW x-=pack had content Droughts :P
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13923582299

(I didnt remember in vaniia to be so long :P Thanks god lvling up a character up to 60 had a plesant time in the elf teretory with 23 days :P – I must get exalted with the elfs , so i can ride that tiger mount :P)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches
Yes, but look at the content that was released. New dungeons, raids, pvp maps, tiered gear, quests, etc. All this content kept players busy.

In contrast to GW2.. Fractals, EotM, 3 pvp maps. Season 1 & 2. Dry Top & SW. Now compare these to 3 years of WoW. There’s no comparison. You don’t even have to look at WoW. Just look at other MMOs.

nexxe.7081:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches
Yes, but look at the content that was released. New dungeons, raids, pvp maps, tiered gear, quests, etc. All this content kept players busy.

In contrast to GW2.. Fractals, EotM, 3 pvp maps. Season 1 & 2. Dry Top & SW. Now compare these to 3 years of WoW. There’s no comparison. You don’t even have to look at WoW. Just look at other MMOs.

No we will look in WoW , because that game is the king of MMOs
If that game can escape with that way , so can GW2 :P

I can link you each 3 months the updates they made :P
Just like this 3 months in WoD , they created 1 Raid + New difficulty for the 8 dungeons + copy the GW2 mehcanic where gear scales downs i older maps (and utemently they lost 30% of their population = 2,9 millions) .
If that the content you wish , they old gg can create too

Or the carnival that shows up every 1,5 months , where they coppied GW2 Sanctum Sprint ?

Edit : You are dilering your original post that you said , WoW didnt have Content Droughts exept Mop :P

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Almost every thread that has something like “any new content coming before hot?” or “this is broken pls fix” you just go and blindly defend every anet’s move and tell people to do some stupid things like “Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic? Gotten all legendaries?” . May i ask why?

I am not blindly defending. I am pointing out facts.

As for the suggestions of things to do: People keep claiming that there is nothing to do in the game. And yet the vast majority of them still have a large amount of stuff that they can do. They just CHOOSE to not do it, and if they choose to not do it, they shouldn’t really come here and complain about there being nothing to do.

lordkrall.7241:

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Almost every thread that has something like “any new content coming before hot?” or “this is broken pls fix” you just go and blindly defend every anet’s move and tell people to do some stupid things like “Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic? Gotten all legendaries?” . May i ask why?

I am not blindly defending. I am pointing out facts.

As for the suggestions of things to do: People keep claiming that there is nothing to do in the game. And yet the vast majority of them still have a large amount of stuff that they can do. They just CHOOSE to not do it, and if they choose to not do it, they shouldn’t really come here and complain about there being nothing to do.

There’s a difference between something fun or at least a little interesting to do and something extremely face roll repetitive to do. Fractal tonic really? Having all the legendaries would be more based in RNG and also a lot of people are waiting for HoT because of the precursors/ new legendaries. Why anyone would want all the things in the wardrobe… Of course you can say there’s still all these things left to do but they are so repetitive. Same thing over and over and over. Which is boring. That’s why something seasonal, even old seasonal content, would be welcomed. Sure it would get stale too but at least it would be entertaining for about a week which is better than we have now. But currently it’s like watching the same TV episode over and over again. It would be nice to even have an old Tv episode come on for something different even though we know all about it and it will get boring too. But at least it’s something.

This content draught has successfully made me shelf GW2 in favour of picking up GW1 again. (Although, not completely shelf, I log for a daily PvP match or so) I’ve got more content to play through – both for the first time and repeat – than in GW2 and might as well continue to work on my HoM for when HoT launches.

GW2 right now seems to think it’s ok you have to grind the same dungeons over and over, play more or less the same WvW matchups week after week, continue to test sPvP balancing for Anet for the second test season running – come on, anyone could see that imbalance of the leaderboards after 1 week. Having a test season run for 2 months is just slacking off and minimum effort on the PvP scene, it’s disheartening.
And we know there’s a brilliant team working on an xpac, it’s just a shame Anet seemingly put themselves completely at a handicap to push meaningful content updates to the live game while we wait for an unscheduled expansion…

lordkrall.7241:

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Almost every thread that has something like “any new content coming before hot?” or “this is broken pls fix” you just go and blindly defend every anet’s move and tell people to do some stupid things like “Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic? Gotten all legendaries?” . May i ask why?

I am not blindly defending. I am pointing out facts.

As for the suggestions of things to do: People keep claiming that there is nothing to do in the game. And yet the vast majority of them still have a large amount of stuff that they can do. They just CHOOSE to not do it, and if they choose to not do it, they shouldn’t really come here and complain about there being nothing to do.

Well I usually agree with you and you often say clever stuff but now I have to disagree a little bit.

There is actually a difference of having things to do and having fun things to do. If it now where so fun in searching collections, doing Legendaries ranking to 80 and more why would Anet even bother in doing Living Story, Crown Pavalion, SAB, and other fun festivals and stuff?

I never care for collections, achievements or Legendary. I go with a mindset that I get it when I get it from playing the content of the game, but when I am done with this content there isn’t anything more fun for me to do so I end up farming the last content and finally I get bored.

What many of us are asking for is not New content it is something to do while waiting for the expac, like SAB or other festivals. I mean, they have had time to do the airplane theme for Aprilsfools… Throw in another simple event to entertain players who wants that. And as I said before, I do not know anything how stuff works at Anet but c’mon a regular Patch day and there is no patch and not even a word to why. Even if it is 100% certain that they are totaly busy with the Expac a word like ‘No patch becouse we are busy with Expac’ would actually have been nice.

I love this game and I will not stop playing becouse I have alot to do in the game but I have alot of guildmembers and friends who I havent seen in a while now since the lack of fun content.

lordkrall.7241:

Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic?
Gotten to Platinum Legend in WvW?
Completed all feasible (ergo all possible except most of the WvW ones) achievements?

Skin wise, my characters have their own unique look and I’ve put a lot of time into creating these. I’m never going to max out the wardrobe with all skins since frankly SO many of them are gemstore items that I refuse to pay real money for / have missed out on them so I can’t meet 100% wardrobe so getting a 90% (cuz it’s whats obtainable seems silly to me) I have the achivement for wardrobes and that’s as full as it needs to be out side of collections.

Fractal tonic? I’ve done Fotm 41-50 every day since I can remember. I’m still missing 6 Fractal skins, RNG drops are NOT goals that can just be achieved over time especially when I’m limited to doing it once a day. Note: Missing 6 fractal skins and I sometimes run 3-4 Fractals a day 19/29/40/50. (all able to drop skins) so Tonic isn’t realistically something I’m ever aiming for.

My server has pretty much abandoned wvw. Most of the WvW guilds have left and I have no real inclination to spend real money or my in game gold to Xfer for content that has not received any real updates in 3 years. Not to mention a wvw tournament that’s well overdue.
So this might be an excuse somewhat, but I prefer defending in WvW. I upgrade towers/place siege, defend, scout. I don’t generally attack people and I’m champion of running away. I don’t capture things I just stay safe and help where I feel I can. That’s what I enjoyed in WvW before my server basically quit.

You’re pulling at every aspect of the game assuming that a single person enjoys every aspect of the game. Most don’t. A lot of people don’t enjoy pvp at all, so they need the game to provide them with new PvE content. A lot of people don’t enjoy pve. So they need the game to provide them with new PvP/WvW content. That’s why there are different game modes to suit different players. Ironically, you’ve met someone who IS actively interested in all game modes. I enjoy all of them and have worked through and enjoyed all aspects.

The thing is, what you’re saying is to get a lot of items for collections that generally are gold sinks. So how am I going to achieve these without repetitively grinding out dungeons/sw chest trains for gold.

Spirit weapon collection. I have the hammer, brb I’ll just make 2k gold for the other 4.
Miniature collections – I can’t afford to buy things with RL money so again that’s a gold sink
Black Lion Collections – /lol yea.
Treasure Hunter – RNG drops or buy from TP – another gold sink
Acolyte of Dwayna – gold sink
Shield Master – come on….

A lot of the things you’re telling me is “things to do” isn’t actually content. It’s stuff to spend your gold on. I don’t actively make gold anymore since running dungeons over and over (my 2nd account nearly has dungeoneer too just from dungeon running) and doing SW Trains is just repetitive and I need something different.
NOTE: Something different. Not new

I am honestly shocked how people are content with seeing weekly streams of HoT stuff and think that’s adequate for a company as opposed to giving the current players something to “do” rather than something to “watch”.
Didn’t the majority of people complain at all the cutscenes in LWs2? Didn’t most forum warriors get angry that there was more cutscenes/talking than playing >.>?

Can’t we get SAB as a little compensation for the waiting? I can see no harm in opening it tbh.

Link.6157:

Can’t we get SAB as a little compensation for the waiting? I can see no harm in opening it tbh.

Short answer: It’s broken, so no.

Longer answer: They’ve said that they had to jury rig a lot of things to get SAB working the first two times, and since then those shortcuts they took don’t work anymore. So SAB would require a lot more effort on their parts to bring back, thus it isn’t happening any time soon.