Guild Wars 2

There are several times I’ve checked its price as if it would make any sense to buy this, but no… never. This item is useless.

Year ago, people said you could extract expensive infusions with it, but now we have Infusion Extraction Device that can be acquired for 24 silvers, lol.

Please, make this item useful. By any statistics, I doubt anyone is buying that.

I agree. Make it some kind of item you can buy/make for around 1 gold. Problem solved. This will probably not happen due to the fact how Anet loves to have a lot of things revolve around the trading post. The fact you can extract the runes means you would not buy the runes or materials needed to make new ones.

Please make affordable Extractors happen please. Build experimentation will be really turbo-charged if this is sold in-game rather than in the gem stores. In the alternative, price them properly so that it actually costs less than outright buying the upgrades themselves.

Sylum.1806:

Please make affordable Extractors happen please. Build experimentation will be really turbo-charged if this is sold in-game rather than in the gem stores. In the alternative, price them properly so that it actually costs less than outright buying the upgrades themselves.

In the long run, its not possible to make them cost less gold than the upgrades.

If they offer them for 1g, it would mean at some point, every upgrade would cost less than 1g, even the ones that take more gold to buy the mats to craft.

Thats because there wouldnt be any sink for for upgrades anymore. If they are indefinately resuable by just paying 1g, upgrades would just pile up on the market unless there are so much that people would start selling them for less than 1g and the extractor would become useless again.
Might as well just sell any exotic upgrade for 1g at a vendor.

This might be an appealing thought to some players but usually they forget that it would also mean a devaluation of the mats that are used to make those upgrades through crafting, forging or the gear that has them slotted and is obtained through random drops.
There would be little incentive to salvage exotic gear as well, so that would also be devalued.

In the end, you might end up paying less gold for your upgrades but you will also get way less gold for your average loot, so it isnt really a viable solution in the long run.

Why even have it on store then, any client with common sense won’t buy that useless item. It’s a waste of space then. The manufacturer would be in bankruptcy for producing it.

And what’s wrong with item devaluation? That happens all the time by accident, when they buff and nerf various runes. Though I do understand that in five years 1g-extractor would result in all good exotic upgrades fluctuating at the very same line, though less appealing ones of course below that. But are you justifying the economy mechanics here?

For example, are you saying it’s normal when:
Minor Rune of Strength – 0.002g
Major Rune of Strength – 0.03g. That is 15 times more expensive.
Superior Rune of Strength – 13g. Whoaaah! 433 times more expensive than preceding rune. What’s the catch, X^2 × 2 ?

Other materials:
Rawhide Leather Section – 1.93s
Thin Leather Section – 6.kitten
Coarse Leather Section – 5.9s
Rugged Leather Section – 8.12s
Thick Leather Section – 0.58s
Hardened Leather Section – 1.42s

Is 12mm wrench more expensive to make than 19mm one, since the latter one needs more metal? Did it make sense? I doubt.
Now, if I am a new casual player I’d be broke when I’d try to craft my own gear during my progression. But truthfully, they hide that awful matter simply by having all those rewards that let you get maximum level as quickly as possible, so we would not need resort to crafting during progression.
Also I “loved” how creative they were with vendors in Labyrinthine Cliffs.

Zephyr Sanctum Supply Box cost
Rawhide Leather Section – 82pcs
Thin Leather Section – 16pcs
Coarse Leather Section – 6pcs
Rugged Leather Section – 3pcs
Thick Leather Section – 90pcs
Hardened Leather Section – 43pcs

I can’t believe it, that definitely blows my mind. 4th tier Rugged Leather is approved to be more valuable than 6th tier Hardened Leather. Perhaps I should make 4th tier set and go WvW and see how this works out since it has to be better than anything else out there, maybe some hidden magic attached to it. Maybe, I wouldn’t be kicked if I’d use that set in dungeon. Meanwhile item promotion is still fun – who in the right mind would dump 250 Rugged Leather Sections into Mystic Forge to get 40 to 200 Thick Leather Sections? That’s insane, I can smell that loss already miles away, but it’s promoted item already, why not?
That vendor almost felt like some chess move, but just by thinking one move at the time.

Can’t even leave out mentioning ascended crafting. They did the similar move there. You need 300 Silk Scraps to craft one ascended cloth material and 200 Thick Leather Sections to craft one leather material. But little they understood their own crafting game, cloth was required by all 3 professions while leather simply by 1 profession. Clearly Silk has suffered terrible valuation because of that.
They do all the crazy work to have increased salvageable item rewards so the trading post wouldn’t run out of supplies. Why else you get tons of those bags for everything you do in the game? Why karma-to-gold conversion isn’t fixed yet? I just saw 5 players standing near Bram Dawnrazer. Not that it is bothering me, but you can clearly tell they need those Linen supplies for Trading Post and after all it’s all okay, since it does not involve a gold well and it is 15% gold sink instead.

They keep introducing new currencies, since they have seen themselves how screwed up the gold actually is.
Please, do not justify that flawed item valuation caused by broken game mechanics. Like all the time someone has to mention gold and material sinks in suggestion topics. Can’t do this, can’t do that. Must have less materials, so the more valuable these are, so the more gold you need. Must have less gold, so the more you need to farm and more bored have to feel. Enjoying this? Yes, because I’m Black Lion Street Trader and sit all day at Trading Post flipping things.

Combat mechanics: 10/10
Class balance mechanics: ?/10
Economy mechanics: 1/10

Right now the extractor is used only for Sigils of Generosity and some infusions (especially the stat ones), it’d be nice to see it have wider use, especially when adjusting builds for new content (raids).

The fact still remains that this seems to be a worthless item to get. I myself have never purchased one for that reason.

Remember when several posters justified them by saying they were meant for costly infusions……lol. Yep, that justification held water really well.

Wanze.8410:

Thats a good point Wanze, but couldnt anet make the price similar/a bit more then the price of most costly runes/sigils, i.e. 10g per use?

MystF.5186:

Year ago, people said you could extract expensive infusions with it, but now we have Infusion Extraction Device that can be acquired for 24 silvers, lol.

Please, make this item useful. By any statistics, I doubt anyone is buying that.

They should just remove that item, and give us somthing similiar to the infusion
extractor for the same price or even for less, since infusions are mostly more
expensive than rune and sigills.

The existance of the Infusion Extractor leeds the Upgrader Extractor ad absurdum.

Stand The Wall.6987:

Wanze.8410:

Thats a good point Wanze, but couldnt anet make the price similar/a bit more then the price of most costly runes/sigils, i.e. 10g per use?

It was never meant for runes and sigils but infusions.
As we got infusion extractors from the fractal mastery line now and wvw/asc gear also got salvageable, i expect them to phase out the extractor in the gem store pretty soon.

The best part is the “Raiding Package” thing…includes FIVE upgrade extractors. So if you wanted that to get the runes off some gear you still need to buy one more to get all of your rune set.

Someone wasn’t thinking when they put together that package.