Guild Wars 2

Did you know that slogan is being pasted all around the train lines of singapore ? Which also begs the question of why is GW2 so afraid to focus on PVP more than PVE to attract the community, when GW2 was in fact marketed as a pvp game, and has a predecessor (gw1) a legendary pvp mmo with meta far beyond its time, not even brought forward to GW2.

Does noone see the horrible focus on PvE again for the new patch (Even new dungeons for FoTM), and just a cut and paste of an october 8th post for esport glorification? On top of which, the community for spvp is near dead, and WvWvW biggest problem the rally system which favors zerging and zero strategy, and having people killed upwards of 10 times before you *win a fight is not addressed.

Please for the love of everything holy, re-prioritize the pvp aspect of the game and layoff your fotm dungeon which has already fractured the pve playerbase. Us pvp’ers will open the pve’ers who want horizontal progression with open arms, by simply adding ascended gear free to buy only usable in WvWvW /spvp , and unique skins in special dungeons in the WvWvW zone though possible to be gank /evilgrinz, but hey it promotes guilds/servers to work together…..

P.S. if you want to make money too from WvWvW after free to buy ascended in pvp, just add a booster for Badges drop rate to 100%, and price each gear to allow transmuting to PVE mode!!! Suddenly you have a subscription based PVP game in your PVE game, and its not pay to win because you can still farm badges normally !!!! OMGEEEEEE

To moderator:
Edited post so i dont get randomly bumped to spvp forums for no reason when i would like to discuss the bridging of the pve and pvp playerbase

Honestly I’ve been playing couple of months 6-16h a day and 90-95% of it is pve since it’s fun. Rest is WvW for fun and to hunt 500 badges for next weapon.

sPvP just sucks, if I want 8 vs 8 domination, I play Battlefield or CoD, since they are way more entertaining in it. Though I admit one of the small reasons is preset gear which I don’t like in it. (Though played only couple times in the past to try it out, so not sure if you can bring your own IG items eventually.)

In WvW Zerging isn’t exactly problem though, since you can be intelligent about zergs too, few smaller zergs can do much much more than one huge in each map. Since one group cant go everywhere anytime. Also small 3-5 member raiding groups are still good to have just to do some distractions and nuinsance.
Divide and conquer. :P

Btw without rally feature defender would be bit more king than it already is, already so often you can see groups retreating from walls after 3-5 defenders fends off 10-20 people with ease. Especially if attackers are even little bit disorganized and defenders knows what they are doing.

Same thing in the Philippines, really, but with DoTA. I don’t know if they ever moved past that game. But my goodness it’s making me learn it just so I can keep up whenever I go home.

Isn’t the pve side the one that is actually supporting the game. Do the pvp side use the cashshop?

If gw2 is a purely pvp game it probably would have flopped.

Well, granted the cash shop itself is poorly designed is another thing too.

I’m really not gonna buy into RNG chests just to get some skin. Maybe if they sold the skins directly, even for a bunch, maybe I’ll consider buying. Otherwise, I’m not gonna bother.

Town-clothes skins? Those get changed out too at the slightest hint of getting in combat. So I’m not really gonna see them very much to begin with.

Who’s fault is it that the pvp side does not use the cash shop as often as the pve side? Specifically for WvW, spvp however has mountains of people utilizing glory gain. But in that analogy, do you see the errors of Arena net ways?

“If gw2 is purely a pvp game, it would fail…”

Ironic when the title of my post is about the demographic of the young generations of an entire country playing a pvp game (League of legends) … you would think that support for pvp in general is insufficient for an mmo. Not to mention LoL generates one of the largest revenue in the gaming industry … with almost a similar f2p/b2p(heroes) setup.

Well if there was a similar pvp mode with creeps and stuff.

Currently in sPvP it’s more about your personal skill so this “majority” don’t wanna play the pvp in which you can’t blame every other team member for your failures.

Kazzuki.5704:

Which also begs the question of why is GW2 so afraid to focus on PVP more than PVE to attract the community, when GW2 was in fact marketed as a pvp game, and has a predecessor (gw1) a legendary pvp mmo with meta far beyond its time, not even brought forward to GW2.

Does noone see the horrible focus on PvE again for the new patch (Even new dungeons for FoTM), and just a cut and paste of an october 8th post for esport glorification?

GW2 wasn’t marketed as a PvP game.
GW1 wasn’t a “legendary PvP MMO”, let alone a MMO.
PvE focus isn’t horrible.

If they wanted GW2 to be a PvP-focussed game there would be more than 1 game mode.

I think wvwers buy gold and stuff.

I like sPvP. It just doesn’t seem to be really taking off. A lot of that is it’s just barely ready for release yet. Still workin on the basics.

I’m not sure if the game is rich enough or fun enough for pvp to flourish esport style. Making a successful esport almost feels to me like trying to go create a viral video. Sure you can try, but it’s really about what gets legs in the community.

Who could have predicted LoL?

FateOmega.9601:

Isn’t the pve side the one that is actually supporting the game. Do the pvp side use the cashshop?

If gw2 is a purely pvp game it probably would have flopped.

Yeah wvw people don’t want skins why would they ever buy chests too, I mean I never see people in wvw running around with a legendary or halloween skins or dungeon armors, oh wait…

sPVP will be giving out gems for tournament play, I wonder where they could spend those gems, I wonder…

Even pvpers like to look bad kitten when pvping, people from both sides would spend more money on the cash shop, if there was anything worth buying, hi2u mad king costume stuck as town clothing.

Wow to those saying GW2 isnt marketed as a pvp game , i give to you every e3 conference, and even the public Dev’s versus the players showmatch. The pvp segment for gw2 has always been the larger part of the presentation. Any argument otherwise is honestly lacking in background knowledge of GW2 publicity during creation ..

Kazzuki.5704:

Did you know that slogan is being pasted all around the train lines of singapore ? Which also begs the question of why is GW2 so afraid to focus on PVP more than PVE to attract the community, when GW2 was in fact marketed as a pvp game, and has a predecessor (gw1) a legendary pvp mmo with meta far beyond its time, not even brought forward to GW2.

Does noone see the horrible focus on PvE again for the new patch (Even new dungeons for FoTM), and just a cut and paste of an october 8th post for esport glorification? On top of which, the community for spvp is near dead, and WvWvW biggest problem the rally system which favors zerging and zero strategy, and having people killed upwards of 10 times before you *win a fight is not addressed.

Please for the love of everything holy, re-prioritize the pvp aspect of the game and layoff your fotm dungeon which has already fractured the pve playerbase. Us pvp’ers will open the pve’ers who want horizontal progression with open arms, by simply adding ascended gear free to buy only usable in WvWvW /spvp , and unique skins in special dungeons in the WvWvW zone though possible to be gank /evilgrinz, but hey it promotes guilds/servers to work together…..

P.S. if you want to make money too from WvWvW after free to buy ascended in pvp, just add a booster for Badges drop rate to 100%, and price each gear to allow transmuting to PVE mode!!! Suddenly you have a subscription based PVP game in your PVE game, and its not pay to win because you can still farm badges normally !!!! OMGEEEEEE

To moderator:
Edited post so i dont get randomly bumped to spvp forums for no reason when i would like to discuss the bridging of the pve and pvp playerbase

Where, which line/station? I take the trains everyday and I’ve yet to see this sign?
I’m not a PvP player and have no interest in PvP.

But from what I got from your post is that you want ANET to give out higher stat gear to PvP players for free and only usable in PvP.

Where as the PvE player has to be forced in to PvP play and on top of that grind for badges to convert the items to PvE gear.

If the PvE player does not want to grind, then he/she has to pay money to ANET to convert the gear to their play style while the PvP player gets the gear for their own play style for FREE.

And thus convert a non-sub game to a sub-game only for the PvE player so that you as a PvP player can play for FREE.

What a way to NOT fracture the community, even more.

Seriously?

Personally, I find GW2 quiet a but PvP focused. From the medals in the start screen, to monthly achievements, to needing to complete the Mists for 100% Map completion, to needing PvP badges for legendaries (and 100% Map completion.)

Kazzuki.5704:

Did you know that slogan is being pasted all around the train lines of singapore ?

Slogan? You mean about gw2, join us? Are you sure wasn’t just an internet point advertisement so players go to play that game online on their internet point?

If the game expectations doesn’t fit what singapore’s community expected, there are billion other mmo around. AFter all, now we have geargrind, gw2 turned to be just an other clone like others. But others are developed way better

You for real? Besides all the stupid hair shampoo commercial, try from orchard to dhobbyghaut to bugis . You get the same people 3 boys 1 girl doing random posses and random heroes in front . Heck its even at my ang mo kio bus station lan shop …

That aside , if you read the post, the game will be able to organize a price based on the moderator for the transmute to pve. Its simple, articulate the base cost of your 250 mats x vial x globs etc , rng should cancel out with rng from kills , and convert it to gems , then take a census of average badge gain , and reconvert it back , boom .

Also, what do you mean pve is force to pvp ? you can get the ascended gear fine from pve if farming 250 bloods or globs is your thing … ill ask it to you this way, Is the community already NOT fractured from all pvp’ers screwed currently? ..

And , what do you mean play for free? Does your current WvWvW’ers not pay for skin prices too like others said? did we suddenly not have to pay for repairs or commander titles or keep upgrades ? Cause there sure was alot of people who bought gems > gold for rams/ballista’s golems / titles/ skins..

@ lucas, nope there is a LOL banner which says , 1 in 4 youths in singapore play LoL "

Kazzuki.5704:

@ lucas, nope there is a LOL banner which says , 1 in 4 youths in singapore play LoL "

Oh hahaahah League of Legends, i understood was a One in four youths in singapore play (SPACE) LoL(Laughing Out Loud) haha my bad.

gw1 is a pvp game.
shadowbane was THE pvp-game (RIP).
ultima online was to a certain degree kind of a pvp game.

wow is no pvp game, never was and never will be. its a pvE game with some small added pvp-content. add all the clones there.
gw2 is not really a pvp game. i liked it still, cause wvw was fun for a while. (now the fun is over for me, cause of the added hamsterwheel).

i guess -and thats meant without any offense- companies can make much more money out of pve-players, since most of them fall into the hamsterwheel/grind-category. us pvpers will leave at the hint of that, which is happining here already. we want to start with exact same stats, at even lvl, and then theres skill- and not stat-progression.
or in other words: the wow-formula is accepted by a big lot of players, be it cause they like it or be it cause they r conditioned to it, that doesnt matter. so there’s a big grp of players where companies know how to place the bait.
for the other grp, us pvpers: its much more risky, cause one has to develop new, prolly more unique concepts how to get us, u need good ideas, new ideas. i can understand that most companies won’t even try to touch that.
and sry for my english, non-native here, i used to play cards during english lessons in school.

GW2 is NOT a PvP game. GW1 was NOT a PvP game. Perhaps sometime years ago when GW1 was born it was its intention. I don’t know… I was not there from the begining.

GW1 developed to be amaizing both in PvE and PvP. A lot of GW1 players never once played PvP (never mind that it was impossible to get into PvP in the later stages of the game because anyone new would be hated on imensely).

GW2 was from the begining meant to follow the idea of being both PvE and PvP. Anet said that. And it is quite obvious with the amount of PvE content that it is not just a PvP game.
You should not complain about the game getting PvE content… or you can… but it will be a waste of time. GW2 is also very much a PvE game and if you thought otherwise it is your own mistake.

That said. Yes. PvP should get attention too. I know a lot of people want to PvP and possibly only PvP (Just like there is a lot of people that want PvE and only PvE). There should be content for both PvP and PvE.

There are even people that play both modes and like both modes gasp